Sidious/Tyranus/Vader vs. Revan, Malak and Traya

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Sidious/Tyranus/Vader vs. Revan, Malak and Traya

ROTS versions of the first team. An all out battle. Which team of Sith whin?

Note: No insta-kill for Traya.

Palpatine's team by a nice margin

Revan, Malak and Traya should easily win this. Revan alone is probably more powerful than any of these people, add in Traya and Malak and it's overkill.

Revan takes Sidious, Malak takes Tyranus and Traya takes Vader, Vader might be able to eventually take Traya but by the time he does (if he does) Tyranus and Sidious are dead and Malak + Revan pwn Vader badly.

Honestly, I don't see Vader lasting that long.

How does Revan take Sidious, when Sidious is stated to be the most powerful sith lord IN HISTORY at the time of ROTS? And the fact that by TPM he was more powerful than Bane, and that mean's Bane at his highest point, not just the one we see in POD!

Revan, Malak and Traya should easily win this. Revan alone is probably more powerful than any of these people, add in Traya and Malak and it's overkill.

Shame that the idea Revan could take Sidious, Dooku and Anakin is only fanboyism of the highest extent. Let's look at who they are: Dooku, who was agreed to be able to give Traya a fight or even beat her. Same goes for Malak. Agreed on both points that he can either stalemate or beat either of them in previous topics. Anakin beat Doou. So, if Traya will have problems with Dooku, she will have even more problems with Vader. Dooku was not only powerful, but intelligent. Malak was a hopeless idiot. He couldn't have done half of what was done had it not been for Revan. Dooku will definitely give him one hell of a go and Vader will dispatch Traya pretty early on and then help double-team Malak.

Sidious>Revan, Darthsith. Just TRY to prove it wrong. Malak>Dooku? Advent's shut that up long, long since. And Lucas's stated to be on the level of Maul or Dooku, at eighty percent of Palpatine? He's not weak. At all

Where's it said that ROTS Sidious is the most powerful sith lord in history? Heck, where does it say that he was more powerful than Bane?

Shame that the idea Revan could take Sidious, Dooku and Anakin is only fanboyism of the highest extent. Let's look at who they are: Dooku, who was agreed to be able to give Traya a fight or even beat her.

Nonsense. Make your case, don't parrot that `the consensus` is `many people agree that` or so on. Appealing to the majority is a logical fallacy.

Same goes for Malak. Agreed on both points that he can either stalemate or beat either of them in previous topics.

^ See above. This is annoying.

Anakin beat Doou. So, if Traya will have problems with Dooku, she will have even more problems with Vader.

Au contraire. Anakin never engaged Dooku in a force duel, or the like. He engages him in lightsabre combat. We don't have any canon information on Traya's lightsabre abilities whatsoever.

Dooku was not only powerful, but intelligent. Malak was a hopeless idiot. He couldn't have done half of what was done had it not been for Revan.

Irrelevant. Malak isn't shown to be a stupid person, and quite frankly; since when has intelligence been a requirement for power? Anakin isn't precisely the sharpest tool in the shed, yet he's still a force to be reckoned with.

Dooku will definitely give him one hell of a go and Vader will dispatch Traya pretty early on and then help double-team Malak.

Honestly, you need to come up with more than spouting out `the consensus` or coming up with blatent untruths.

Check out the Dooku/Malak topic, then... Sorry if I have comprehended the use of the Search function and you have not.

Irrelevant. Malak isn't shown to be a stupid person, and quite frankly; since when has intelligence been a requirement for power? Anakin isn't precisely the sharpest tool in the shed, yet he's still a force to be reckoned with.

If you're as dumb as a brick, I don't care how strong you are. you're still a brick. or are you saying Leatherface is a force to be reckoned with because he's got a chainsaw? Well, let's put him against another, not insanely retarded guy with a chainsaw. Who will win?

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Shame that the idea Revan could take Sidious, Dooku and Anakin is only fanboyism of the highest extent. Let's look at who they are: Dooku, who was agreed to be able to give Traya a fight or even beat her.

Nonsense. Make your case, don't parrot that `the consensus` is `many people agree that` or so on. Appealing to the majority is a logical fallacy.

[quote]^ See above. This is annoying.

Yes, it is annoying. Maybe you should look in other topics for info and if these things have been discussed before. You might learn something.

Sidious is good but their is no guarantee that he can always win in every fight.

Revan will give him one hell of a fight anyways. All Revan needs is to use his deadly "Force Storm" and Sidious along with his other companions will be in serious trouble.

Revan also knows some other deadly Dark Side powers that have not been revealed yet. So he is not to be under-estimated.

About Malak!

Malak is a good match for Dooku. Both of these Sith are experienced Makashi duelists. Malak is also very strong in the force and he demonstrated a good deal of force powers when we encountered him.

Dooku also demonstrates good deal of Force Powers. Both use Force lightening to max effect in battle. Malak can also use "Force Drain", which has not been demonstrated by Dooku.

Seriously, you people need to stop under-estimating Malak. He is definately among the most powerful Sith Lords in Star Wars Saga.

And Malak was not dumb or an idiot.

About Traya!

Traya is also powerful and can give good fight to Vader. Traya has demonstrated some unique force powers and abilities that many Sith Lords have not.

Revan, Malak and Traya have better chance to win this battle.

And wait...Palp doesn't have Force storm? LOL. Wow, just apply Palpatine's name to the first part of your post....Unlike Revan, Palp studied from the Ancients themselves.

About Revan
On DE Palpatine knew Force Storm. No other Force user has ever used Force storm. And you are saying that Revan knows deadly Sith moves that he hasn't revealed yet. Okay Palpatine can devour the Force. He just hasn't revealed it yet. See how retarded that is?

About Malak
Where have you heard that Malak knows Form II? You are just making crap up now. Force drain is only an in-game move like Force heal. So are you saying that people actually have HP and somehow they are able to withstand lightsaber attacks?

About Traya
Okay I agree.

Malak uses the force drain to drain the life of the jedi captives. This is not dependant on gameplay, in fact I'm pretty sure he's shown doing it in a cutscene, so it's canon.

Nikk, if Traya has her instakill, it's pointless to make this thread.

RotS Sidious is likely inferior to Revan (though it is highly unlikely that Dessel's ridiculous assertion that Revan could take all of them), but he would easily be able to wrap him up in a fight for a little while. I see Dooku taking Malak, and I can see Anakin wrapping up Traya in a lightsaber duel. Dooku + Anakin = Traya pwned. Then, Sidious, Dooku, and Anakin can own Revan.

Btw, Swirly, Traya better use the Force quickly, otherwise Anakin will be all over her in a lightsaber fight. One, I don't see her standing much of a chance against him in a contest of lightsabers, and two, being faster, stronger, and more ferocious than her, I doubt she'll be unleashing a monumental Force attack during battle. Dooku was unable to.

though it is highly unlikely that Dessel's ridiculous assertion that Revan could take all of them

Why not? He's displayed far more than any of these people. He'd be able to take any of them alone, adding Traya and Malak is overkill.

Wait, in the novelisation (G-canon), isn't Sidious stated to be the most powerful sith lord EVER? This includes Revan, and it should overrule any source that Revan has to him!

Revan has, in no way, displayed more than Palpatine. Or Dooku.

I believe it was the New Essential Chronology that said he was.