Great Evil Beast vs. Living Tribunal, THOTU and Phoenix Force

Started by Ichigo6666621 pages
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't remember saying NO one is beating GEB. I think I said something like it takes two supreme beings to beat one.

Yes, but you also placed bias in there.

You said.

It would take TOAA and the Presence, DC God already did it alone. So more or less stating TOAA is weaker and would need help from the presence. 😉

Originally posted by Galan777
Show me where thats stated....... And lets say that DC is a Multiverse (which it is not)

Marvel is an Omniverse (infinite ammount of Multiverses)

DC is no where near that

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THOTU's feats>GEB's

stop avoiding this fact.

LOL, first off, DC has no translation for Omniverse, with that being said, DC has never changed the definition of infinity as Marvel has. Also, DC absorbed all of those countless universes into ONE. This ONE universe has all the power of all those universes. This one Universe is equal to all of the marvel's Omniverse becuz infinity=infinity. No way to get around that equation. this is one equation that will stand the test of time forever. no clever wording or your opinion will ever change that. As long as the two companies have Supreme beings, and those Supreme beings are both Supreme, meaning all powerful, and that is another definition that doesn't change, then they are equal becuz both beings can do what ever they want, when ever they want.

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
Yes, but you also placed bias in there.

You said.

It would take TOAA and the Presence, DC God already did it alone. So more or less stating TOAA is weaker and would need help from the presence. 😉


That is not what I meant. I also said it would take Vertigo's God and The Presence to beat the GEB. So more or less your wrong.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL, first off, DC has no translation for Omniverse, with that being said, DC has never changed the definition of infinity as Marvel has. Also, DC absorbed all of those countless universes into ONE. This ONE universe has all the power of all those universes. This one Universe is equal to all of the marvel's Omniverse becuz infinity=infinity. No way to get around that equation. this is one equation that will stand the test of time forever. no clever wording or your opinion will ever change that. As long as the two companies have Supreme beings, and those Supreme beings are both Supreme, meaning all powerful, and that is another definition that doesn't change, then they are equal becuz both beings can do what ever they want, when ever they want.
Once again, this is all your oppinion, and has never been proven as fact.

now:

Originally posted by Galan777
Back on topic

THOTU's feats>GEB's

stop avoiding this fact.

Originally posted by Galan777
Once again, this is all [b]your oppinion, and has never been proven as fact.

now: [/B]

Since GEB has no real accomplishments other than being equal to Vertigo's God, I would put him equal to Thanos with THOU in terms of power. As far as knowlege, GEB would have to be smarter than Thanos since he is Yaweh's equal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In my world, They are equal. So when did you become and expert on my world. Sorry I'm typing to fast here at work to check all my spellings. Pity me for having to come into the office today.

"Your World" is irrelevant, as you mold your own definitions.

In MY world, GEB is made of cheese...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since GEB has no real accomplishments other than being equal to Vertigo's God, I would put him equal to Thanos with THOU in terms of power. As far as knowlege, GEB would have to be smarter than Thanos since he is Yaweh's equal.

How would smartness help him? As I said, there's no finese to using THOTU. Any retard with it could do what Thanos did.

Originally posted by King Kandy
"Your World" is irrelevant, as you mold your own definitions.

In MY world, GEB is made of cheese...

You are the one that brought up my world. I just corrected you. now that it didn't go as planned you want to make my world irrevelant when you are the one who made it relevant. Interesting.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How would smartness help him? As I said, there's no finese to using THOTU. Any retard with it could do what Thanos did.

Exactly. Any retard can do what Thanos did. Now imagine someone with infinite wisdom holding THOU.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are the one that brought up my world. I just corrected you. now that it didn't go as planned you want to make my world irrevelant when you are the one who made it relevant. Interesting.

How did I make "Your World" relevant? You can quote me, if you please.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. Any retard can do what Thanos did. Now imagine someone with infinite wisdom holding THOU.

The same thing would happen. Anyone would use THOTU the same way. It's not something that requires, or even benefits, from knowledge.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Since GEB has no real accomplishments other than being equal to Vertigo's God, I would put him equal to Thanos with THOU in terms of power.
once again, this is only your oppinion...... Thanos unarguably did more on pannel. This is why he wins this every time.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
As far as knowlege, GEB would have to be smarter than Thanos since he is Yaweh's equal.
Again, just your oppinion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How did I make "Your World" relevant? You can quote me, if you please.

YOu made it relevant when you brought it up. or did you forget that silly statement about dc's god being greater than marvel's god in my world?

Originally posted by Galan777
once again, this is only your oppinion...... Thanos unarguably did more on pannel. This is why he wins this every time.

Again, just your oppinion.

Which is what a debate forum is. All based on opinions. THanks very much. I happen to think GEB is smarter than Thanos.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which is what a debate forum is. All based on opinions. THanks very much. I happen to think GEB is smarter than Thanos.
Oppinions should only be stated when there is evidence to back them up as fact........ And i can fully back up my claim on THOTU doing much more on pannel then GEB.

So how can you say that GEB (which has no feats) can beat THOTU?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu made it relevant when you brought it up. or did you forget that silly statement about dc's god being greater than marvel's god in my world?

MY point, was that your opinion is irrelevant. That was my point when I made that statement, and it remains my point.

Originally posted by Galan777
Oppinions should only be stated when there is evidence to back them up as fact........ And i can fully back up my claim on THOTU doing much more on pannel then GEB.

So how can you say that GEB (which has no feats) can beat THOTU?

I NEVER said it could. So exactly what are you arguing against me for again? I had evidence to back my opinion that the DCU was still connected to it's other properties, but you dismissed my opion then. SO pray tell, what does it take for my opinion to count in your almighty opinion?

Well, in any case, as I made in my presvious arguments, THOTU could tap GEB's energy, making Thanos stronger while making GEB weaker.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I NEVER said it could. So exactly what are you arguing against me for again?
Then just change your statment to say THOTU>GEB, because by feats alone, it is.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I had evidence to back my opinion that the DCU was still connected to it's other properties, but you dismissed my opion then. SO pray tell, what does it take for my opinion to count in your almight opinion?
But you see this really means nothing where this debate is concerned, and i prefer debates to stay on topic, thats all.

as recently as in IC the dcu was shown to be a multiverse -- there were a number of variations on superman himself. in many different threads scans HAVE been shown to say it is a multiverse (juntai showed some great spectre scans, to name just one). just recently captain atom DID travel to wildstorm (atom respect thread has scans if you're looking for proof) and there have been many xovers with dcu and vertigo to show they are linked as well (jla/sandman to name just one i could dig up were i not so lazy.) we have waverider guarding hypertime, we have kismet overlooking it to keep it from unravelling . . .

not sure what MORE proof anyone could need that the dcu is multiversal both with AND without factoring in hypertime.

and it also seems ridiculous to me to say one continuity is larger than the other. god=god, both are the ultimate expression of infinite, and all other infinities by definition<god.

once agin -- IF geb=god, geb is INFINITELY>hotu+lt+ . . .

but since no one seems to know for sure, the discussion is really pretty silly -- especially when everyone keeps expressing opinions as fact.