Originally posted by King KandyAt first it was called "The Heart of the Infinite", but Thanos himself refered to it as "The Heart of the Universe".
Actualy, "Heart of the Universe" is a misnomer. It's actualy called "Heart of the Infinite"
So its not really a misnomer, because both ways are correct.
Originally posted by Galan777
At first it was called "The Heart of the Infinite", but Thanos himself refered to it as "The Heart of the Universe".So its not really a misnomer, because both ways are correct.
And so that people are arguing that it's onlky universal based on it's name, I had to set them straight.
Originally posted by King KandyOhhh ok, then you are completely right there, I just wanted to make sure people knew that both names were technically correct.
The term "Infinite" implies more then "Universe".And so that people are arguing that it's onlky universal based on it's name, I had to set them straight.
Originally posted by HorrificusThanos calls it by both names in the comic, I was just stating that no matter what way you say it, they are both correct.
So, when Thanos changes it's name to one that is implying that it is the Heart of THE UNIVERSE, we are supposed to ignore that, and accept that it is "Multi-Universal"?That doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by Lord S
Yes indeed it is the Heart of the UNIVERSE...not the multiverse. In fact, when Thanos refers to the events of 'The End', he talks about his conquering of 'this reality'...so it's not multiversal.
And "This Reality" could mean anything.
Originally posted by Lord S
Yes indeed it is the Heart of the UNIVERSE...not the multiverse. In fact, when Thanos refers to the events of 'The End', he talks about his conquering of 'this reality'...so it's not multiversal.
And "This Reality" could mean anything.
I saw to many heads INCORRECTLY labeling the The HEART of the INFINITE,
as the Heart of the Universe.
For the RECORD:
TOAA's Power was called the "HEART of the INFINITE" by the Celestial Order
It was Thanos that NICKNAMED it "the Heart of the Universe"
Thanos CLEARLY points out, "I DUBBED it the Heart of the Universe"...
Originally posted by Horrificus
So, when Thanos changes it's name to one that is implying that it is the Heart of THE UNIVERSE, we are supposed to ignore that, and accept that it is "Multi-Universal"?That doesn't make sense.
Remember, Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet, which could affect more than one universe (proven by Magus/Adam) but Thanos only used it to manipulate one universe.
Because that's what Thanos ever wanted total control over the 616 universe, he don't care of the rest of the Multi-verse.
So he named it the Heart of the Universe, because it was the only source of energy that could make you the most powerful being (total control) of the universe, of course he was more powerful than Multi-versal being.
But he did just destroy one universe, the other universes was beneth his noticing, til the end that is, when he recreated the universe.
Originally posted by Horrificus
4. And, no. Thanos was not effecting the Multiverse. He was effecting the Universe, and he stated that, when he confronted Warlock, and noted that they must have been hiding outside of This Reality. If anything, when and IF he continued to absorb anything after and IF he absorbed all of the Universe, he may have continued to the absorbtion of Dimensions connected to what he called "THIS Reality". This universe. Which would make sense, if he was worried about others that may interfere.
Jeez,
I didn't think I would have to come out with the monster, but you boys...
When Warlock first exited the Multi-verse, he entered a place called the Cosmic Vortex.
In it, an INFINITE number of MULTI-VERSES are spiralling upward, while below lies Oblivion, (the ultimate Abstract in terms of everlasting), swallowing Multi-verses that collapse, are nullified, have a weakened Anchor (like Atleza) ect...
These are MULTI-VERSES!
When I realized that Thanos DID in fact, Absorb MORE than just a UNIVERSE, that he actually absorbed ALL he could (which is the MULTI-VERSE)
He absorbs Eternity and Infinity and there is still Space and star stuff behind
This is not a designed attack, he's saying it himself "it's Out of Control"
Like a raging drunk, who's not selective in a brawl, anything in the way goes, and with that KIND of Power, that means everything goes. (like it did)
Here it continues,
"For IF this BAND (LT, Eternity/Infinity) Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS* be equally Foolish?"
"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?"
"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign...Until....
See...He's absorbing MORE SPACE now, where is this SPACE coming from if he already absorbed ALL of Space and Time?
I'll answer that,
It has to be coming from the Multi-verse, there is no other way to look at it.
*(That's WHO these OTHERS are that MIGHT be equally foolish, the rest of Space, in other words, the MULTI-VERSE)
WHO else COULD question his authority, except anyone left in the MULTI-VERSE.
CAN'T be the Universe, he just ABSORBED the Universe (Eternity/Infinity remember)
Now your saying to yourself, fine, that conclusively despicts Thanos absorbing the Multi-verse.
But Mr M showed scans of the Cosmic Vortex, where an INFINITE number of Multi-verses are,
How could Thanos have absorbed ALL he could, when he ONLY absorbed ONE Multi-verse?
Now we go back to the OMNIVERSAL structure:
The OMNI-VERSE and the rest of the Multi-verses rest with in the Cosmic Vortex.
See those little Purple Balls, thats where Atleza is (the Cosmic Anchor of the "616" Multi-verse)...
and every little Purple Ball is the Domain of an Anchor of a Multi-verse ...
Each Domain is Outside the Multiverse...Untouched by Space or Time....
The much bigger Blue Balls represent EACH a Multi-verse, and the SUM of the Blue Balls is the Omni-verse.
Anything Outside the Blue Balls is Untouched by Space & Time,
which Multi-Eternity/Infinity encompass.
See how the Blue Balls (Multi-verses) are separate from each other, and how the little Purple Balls (the Anchor's domain) are separated from the Blue Balls.
This is why Atleza, Gamora and Warlock were untouched, they were there, in A little Purple Ball, (the Anchors domain, Outside it's respective Multi-verse)
This why Thanos could not absorb more, he absorbed everything within that Blue Ball (a Multi-verse) and evidently, he could not reach any furthur
"Nothing Remained"
Remember he was "Out of Control"
He kept on absorbing till there was nothing left for him to absorb (literally), HAD he been able to absorb everything Outside his Multi-verse, it would have been no problem with TOAA's power,
But Thanos was NOT able to do it, meaning that's as FAR as TOAA permitted his power to be used, absorption of a Multi-verse and Remaking that same Multi-verse, even though being the most powerful being in the Omni-verse.
Originally posted by Horrificus
If I remember right, the first thing that Korvac did, when he attained Godhood, was to close off this Universe, this Reality, for all ajoining dimensions and realities, to keep all the busy-bodys from getting involved.
Please, NEVER again compare the chump, known as Korvac, to anything even resembling the HEART of the INFINITE.
Just because Reality is titled in Marvel "Universe" instead of Multi-verse or "Eternity instead of Multi-Eternity, doesn't necessarily mean it's referring to ONE Universe.
Examples:
Roma she inherited the reins of the Multi-verse
Roma Oversees the 616 Multi-verse personally,
Roma says Understanding the Universe is hard enough, but she tends to Eternity (the Multi-verse) YET, she refers to him as Eternity, NOT Multi-Eternity
"Within it, ALL that ever was, ever is or ever will be exists"
Here is another instance, I would post more, but if yall don't get it, then whatever.
This arc was dedicated to the MULTI-VERSE and yet it's called the UNIVERSE at times and just ETERNITY, instead of MULTI-ETERNITY
Here it's called the UNIVERSE:
"Molding the UNIVERSE to suit our dreams"
NOW MULTI-VERSE:
"Comes down to conquering the Universe, well, MULTI-VERSE in my case"
MULTI-VERSE again:
"the single most powerful Entity in ALL the MULTI-VERSE"
NOW ETERNITY, but implying it's the MULTI-VERSE:
"ENTIRE UNIVERSES being born"
"Detonate ETERNITY'S Heart, Re-Birthing everything in ALL the UNIVERSES"
AFTER Dormammu, has succeeded in becoming the New CREATOR of the MULTI-VERSE
"Did he think I would not feel him ENTERING my UNIVERSE"
Now the question is, how do we define what they are referring to when we see these contradictory titles?
Simply by following the entire STORY LINE.
Jim Starlin's whole purpose behind the END series was to out do the Infinity Gauntlet arc,
Now your going to tell me, ol' Jimmy introduced the POWER of TOAA to mess with a single Universe, when Magus and his INCOMPLETE IG was controlling TWO UNIVERSES? (Also WRITTEN by Starlin by the way)
Come on people.
