Superman: Man of Steel

Originally posted by super pr*xy

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people say that they couldn't believe that superman fought the kryptonians with such reckless abandon, discounting all the collateral damage in their wake.. but you have to understand that clark grew up being bullied by humans and not being able to fight back.. so for the first time, he sees some bullies that he is able to fight back.. pardon him for wanting to get all the rage out.. and i'm pretty sure those buildings were empty.. with that spaceship hovering above and all that earthquake/gravity bullshit, the last thing i wanna be inside it is a potential jenga tower made of concrete and metal.. as for the drone he blew up, oh well..

I do not agree with this at all.

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The movie shows that Clark always cared for human life... the school bus, the oil rig, saving the fighting US troops. There is no reason for him to risk even the slightest possibility that human life would be lost in the destruction of those buildings. Let's say the buildings are empty, where are the people? Walking on the streets where the falling buildings are raining debris! I am certain direct actions from Superman and the US Military cause more loss of life and destruction than Zod does. The US Military was really even worse than Superman, once they discovered their weapons had no effect on the Kryptonians, they should've backed off and dealt with evacuating the battle zone. Maybe that would've saved some lives instead of their useless jets and missiles causing more death and destruction. In Superman II, once Supes sees Zod and his crew are using citizens as ammo against him, HE LEAVES THE CITY. Not because he was scared, not because of some plan, but to get then away from the populace.

Other than that, I found the movie very epic and portrayed what it would be like to be a powerful alien being on Earth, raised by Midwestern parents and deal with moral issues.

Man of Steel in two hours!

Originally posted by SupezM'

My only other beef would be the continuity of the film, there was almost no cohesion between scenes. One scene they are in an army bunker the next standing in the desert. One scene Jor-El and Lois sabotage Zod's ship the next Zod is landing on the Kent farm, I mean literally bouncing from scene to scene.. Even the flashbacks seemed to come out of nowhere, it was like a mash-up of scenes you would see in a trailer.

I agree with your review.

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I felt the movie was pretty smooth up until the appearance of Zod. Clark travelling the world searching for any hint of his destiny, saving the oil rig workers, slowly making his way North to the secret military operation in the ice. This sequence was great, mixed in with his flashbacks of life in Smallville, interactions with his parents. Even as he learns of his destiny from Jor El, you are still feeling like this is a good Superman movie. But then Zod shows up and the movie gets very choppy as you say. Superman surrenders, then he's captured by Zod, then he's unconscious on Zod's ship, then he's back to himself, then he's chasing Zod, then he's in a pointless fight with 2 Kryptonians in some Podunk town, then on to a fight somewhere else, then Zod runs away, then he comes back... I also found it funny that Lois Lane was everywhere in the last half of the movie. She's on the Kent farm, she's on the bomber flying over Metropolis, she's running into the building as Superman fights Zod. She's amazing.

I would've given this movie a 9/10 before Zod shows up. The emotions, morals and feats of strength shown by Clark up until that point were truly powerful and moving. Once Zod arrives, it's a WWE brawl. This last half drops the movie to a 7/10 to me.

Hmm, how do you add "spoiler" tags?

add [ then "spoiler" then ] before the text, then [ / spoiler ] after the text.

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Another thing I really wish they did is... If they were going to make Superman who is the biggest boyscout and greatest proponent for not killing into someone who would kill then make it more of a convincing situation.

Zod and Supes are literally throwing each other around like rag dolls, every hit sends the other flying through buildings and several hundred feet. Yet when it counts and Zod is about to fry a couple of humans all of a sudden Supes can't move him, can't punch him to send him flying. If there is one thing Supes doesn't do it's KILL and so they broke his one cardinal rule and they did so in a rather weak fashion if you ask me. If they are talking about a World's Greatest team up for Batman and Superman why not keep them morally equal? If anything, when did Batman become more of the boyscout? The main theme of The Dark Knight was that Batman wouldn't kill to enact justice, no matter how hard Joker tried. Batman would not stoop to his level and proved there were ways to win and neutralize a madman.

I'm not saying Zod shouldn't of died. Obviously at some point amidst the destruction and catastrophic loss of life one has to say to themselves when IS it okay to kill a madman? After 10 people have been killed? 100? 1,000? The comics have always portrayed it as not the hero's call on whether a villain lives or dies because it crosses a boundary and you can't go back...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
in comics? Yes, recently inaction comicd. Nothing too long tho

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Here is a list of all the easter eggs. Wow I missed a few

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/man-steel-easter-eggs-nods-references-dotted-throughout-085900952.html

wow, did anybody see the christopher reeve easter egg the article was referring to? that must have been really quick because my eyes were glued to the screen.. and i mean g-l-u-e-d, glued..

Just saw it.
1. Best Superman movie ever. Love the scifi feel to it.
2. Tie with Avengers for best superhero movie ever.

Emotional scenes brought tears to my eyes; the action scenes had my eyes popping out of my head. I could nitpick with minor things here and there, but my only real question is: why did Krypton's sun look more yellow than red?

But overall: great movie. 9/10.

From another thread:

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just got back from MOS. In brief: Really, really enjoyed it. Sure, it had it's faults, but this is the kind of Superman movie I've been waiting for since I heard they were even making Returns.

That alone makes the niggles not that important, as small as they were. Really good movie, probably my favourite of the year so far, and I'd definitely watch it again.

Originally posted by super pr*xy
wow, did anybody see the christopher reeve easter egg the article was referring to? that must have been really quick because my eyes were glued to the screen.. and i mean g-l-u-e-d, glued..

i saw all of them..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/06/16/weekend-box-office-man-of-steel-soars-to-125-million-debut/

Originally posted by SupezM'

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Another thing I really wish they did is... If they were going to make Superman who is the biggest boyscout and greatest proponent for not killing into someone who would kill then make it more of a convincing situation.

Zod and Supes are literally throwing each other around like rag dolls, every hit sends the other flying through buildings and several hundred feet. Yet when it counts and Zod is about to fry a couple of humans all of a sudden Supes can't move him, can't punch him to send him flying. If there is one thing Supes doesn't do it's KILL and so they broke his one cardinal rule and they did so in a rather weak fashion if you ask me. If they are talking about a World's Greatest team up for Batman and Superman why not keep them morally equal? If anything, when did Batman become more of the boyscout? The main theme of The Dark Knight was that Batman wouldn't kill to enact justice, no matter how hard Joker tried. Batman would not stoop to his level and proved there were ways to win and neutralize a madman.

I'm not saying Zod shouldn't of died. Obviously at some point amidst the destruction and catastrophic loss of life one has to say to themselves when IS it okay to kill a madman? After 10 people have been killed? 100? 1,000? The comics have always portrayed it as not the hero's call on whether a villain lives or dies because it crosses a boundary and you can't go back...

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Superman was incredible fortunate to get a hold on Zod, or the fight could have lasted forever with Zod having a slight advantage.

He may not have gotten another chance to end this existential threat to human life.

Originally posted by Dolos

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Superman was incredible fortunate to get a hold on Zod, or the fight could have lasted forever with Zod having a slight advantage.

He may not have gotten another chance to end this existential threat to human life.

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I understand all that.. What I'm saying is Superman has always been able to find a way to neutralize his opponents and overcome them only the way he can. Him snapping Zod's neck was not the Superman portrayed in comics or animated features. Watch Superman vs The Elite. Superman always rises to the occasion and overcomes "no-win" situations, it's why he's a superhero and the best of them. And I ask again, why with the same writers do they write Batman taking the higher ground and Superman being the one to end life?

I liked the movie, and I feel like their reasons for doing what they did were understandable.

Originally posted by SupezM'

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I understand all that.. What I'm saying is Superman has always been able to find a way to neutralize his opponents and overcome them only the way he can. Him snapping Zod's neck was not the Superman portrayed in comics or animated features. Watch Superman vs The Elite. Superman always rises to the occasion and overcomes "no-win" situations, it's why he's a superhero and the best of them. And I ask again, why with the same writers do they write Batman taking the higher ground and Superman being the one to end life?

The thing is that the comics have shown Superman

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reluctantly taking life to save others if absolutely forced to. Doomsday, Pocket Universe Zod, etc. And at times, he's been tempted to do so. As far as Batman goes, barring like the original Golden Age comics (in which the dude broke people's necks in addition to shooting them) he's always been more vehemently opposed to killing than Superman. That's not to say he's of stronger moral fiber, but rather that his entire "mission" isn't so much a war on crime as it him trying to beat death itself. Batman's refusal to kill or willingly let someone die can be seen as as foil to his character as it is a strength.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i saw all of them..

so was the reeve easter egg there?

saw the movie, thought it was great. finally someone updated the character (like i previously suggested).

for all of you butt hurt about how supes handles zod i suggest you google:

the death of superman
superman #22

or

watch superman 2 ending (donner version is not canon)

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Watched the movie a second time and I like it even better than the first time.

Action is much better than in the Avengers or Batman movies. Fights and destruction are in another level.

Lots of mysteries unresolved for the next movie.

There was an open kryptonian pod on the first ship on earth, who survived?

I believe the ending also is the base to build his moral character as We know it in comics.

This second run was much, much better.

you can't really compare the action since the context of the movies are so much different. though i enjoyed it i found the fighting and level of destruction to be a bit dragonball z'ish.

the man of steel prequel comic answers your questions about the ship.

Originally posted by super pr*xy
wow, did anybody see the christopher reeve easter egg the article was referring to? that must have been really quick because my eyes were glued to the screen.. and i mean g-l-u-e-d, glued..