Wolverine vs Colossus revisited

Started by Jyppe6 pages

Well, this thread is more about wether Wolverine can hurt Col. at all..

Collosus rips the muscles off of Wolverines arms. Then he cant cut tissue paper for a couple of hours, much less Collosus.

Colossus wins 10/10. It's not hatred. It's just that Wolverine can't beat him.

Originally posted by Jyppe
Didn't Wolverine have hard time cutting Hulk a little while ago? I think it was in the 6 hour - story? The only time I remember Wolverine cutting Hulk in that story when he retracted them while Hulk was holding on to them. I'm not sure though, clarification would be appreciated..?

that's the only point it's shown CLEARLY that hulk's being cut, but then again the panals are ambigious as to wether or not the green splotches on the page are blood from hulk or just an embelishment from the hit... at any rate it's unreasonable to assume that wolverine wasn't cutting into hulk there since he was clearly shown doing so when he retracted his claws... he can't generate more force from a claw retraction than he can from a lunging leap full speed at hulk... it's just.... like he said long ago, hulk heals so fast it only APPEARS that he isn't cut.. funny how savage hulk as inclined several times that "little man" always cuts him and hurts him eh?

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
About 2 months late with that joke. 😐

If Colossus tries and plays it smart, he will win. IMO.

Trust me,it won't be the last time you will see it here. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by jinzin
that's the only point it's shown CLEARLY that hulk's being cut, but then again the panals are ambigious as to wether or not the green splotches on the page are blood from hulk or just an embelishment from the hit... at any rate it's unreasonable to assume that wolverine wasn't cutting into hulk there since he was clearly shown doing so when he retracted his claws... he can't generate more force from a claw retraction than he can from a lunging leap full speed at hulk... it's just.... like he said long ago, hulk heals so fast it only APPEARS that he isn't cut.. funny how savage hulk as inclined several times that "little man" always cuts him and hurts him eh?

Yeah, thanks. I wasn't sure about what was happening 🙂

Originally posted by riceroost
Wolverine can extend his claws at I believe over 130 mph.

If a motorcycle runs into a cement wall at 130mph, you have a totaled motorcycle. If a bulldozer runs into a cement wall at 20mph, you have a totaled wall.

Originally posted by riceroost
People say Wolverine can't cut Hulk, yet he has done so several times, even with his bone claws.
People say Wolverine can't cut Thanos, yet Wolverine cut Thanos who was boosted in power by the INFINITY GAUNTLET.

I specifically recall a comic where Wolverine slashes at Hulk. Hulk reels back and holds his neck then looks and sees no damage then asks if he has bone claws. Then proceeds to attack him.

And Thanos was only hurt by Wolverine because he wanted to get hurt. Seriously, he was supposed to of depowered himself with the gauntlet.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If a motorcycle runs into a cement wall at 130mph, you have a totaled motorcycle. If a bulldozer runs into a cement wall at 20mph, you have a totaled wall.

Not if those cement walls happen to fall over at the moment of impact to become ramps!... 😄

Originally posted by rotiart
Not if those cement walls happen to fall over at the moment of impact to become ramps!... 😄

But then there's the lip at the bottom because of the thickness of the wall. But when the front tire hits and the driver goes over, he'd probably ramp pretty nicely. Yes. I'd like to see that.

Originally posted by Soljer
No part of Colossus' body has shown to be vulnerable.

At all, really.

And no matter what Upgrades Wolverine has gotten, unless he suddenly has class 100 strength to force those Adamantium Claws through Colossus' Organic Steel skin, it won't be happening.

Colossus wins, 10/10.

Not true. Riptide's shuriken penetrated Colossus armored hide.

I'm thinking fast-ball special into the Upper Atmosphere

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I specifically recall a comic where Wolverine slashes at Hulk. Hulk reels back and holds his neck then looks and sees no damage then asks if he has bone claws. Then proceeds to attack him.

This it ?

That's the ticket.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Not true. Riptide's shuriken penetrated Colossus armored hide.

After Magneto healed him from the previous damage, Riptide's shuriken's had no effect.

Could go either way.

Colossus usualy fairs better than Wolverine does when they skirmish...

Colossus vs. Wolverine-I:

After Colossus blocks a optic blast from Cyclops with his hands Wolverine tries to attack him but ends up going for a ride. Wolverine forgot how fast Colossus is.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandWolverineXM24.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandWolverineXM242.jpg

Colossus vs. Wolverine-II:

Wolverine tried to be the hero once again. After Colossus backhanded Banshee Wolverine attacks Colossus, but finds the big man’s muscle enough to keep him at bay.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusvsWolverineunc124.jpg

Colossus vs. Wolverine-III:

Dracula was mindcontroling Wolverine and told him to attack Colossus. So Wolverine attacked Colossus with his claws but Colossus then punched Wolverine through a pillar.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20durablity/ColossustakingWolverinedown.jpg

Colossus vs. Wolverine-IV:

Wolverine was known as Death and was a Horseman of Apocolypse so his abilities were amped during this fight.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Deathvs.jpg

Colossus vs. Wolverine-V:

Wolverine makes a comment Colossus does not like. Colossus then smashes the boulder Logan was on and then pins him to the ground:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandWolverinexmenunl29.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/ColossusandWolverinexmenunl29-2.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine stabbing an Infinity Gauntlet wielding Thanos is PIS.
Nope, just cements the fact that Wolverine can cut through anything other than adamantium.
Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine cutting off the arm of an Odinpower user is PIS.
Only because you dont like it...which proves nothing.
Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine won't be touching Colossus.
Yet he has.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Didn't Wolverine have hard time cutting Hulk a little while ago? I think it was in the 6 hour - story?
Considering Hulk was crying out in pain It's pretty obvious he was cutting him. I doubt the friggin Hulk would be whining about a 2 tonner hitting him with metal twigs unless they were cutting his flesh.
Originally posted by Soljer
And no matter what Upgrades Wolverine has gotten, unless he suddenly has class 100 strength to force those Adamantium Claws through Colossus' Organic Steel skin, it won't be happening.
Yet Wolverine's at best class 2 ton strength has cut every single other 100 ton brick that there is. Your logic still relies on his strength doing the cutting, which is clearly not the case. If it was he wouldn't even be able to cut simple pig iron, yet he does with no effort. It's the blade, not the muscle.
Originally posted by Omega-level
When Doom, with the power of the Beyonder, destroyed the plane with all the heroes in Secret Wars, who was the single survivor without a cut? Yep, that's right. Not the Thing, not the Hulk, not Wolverine. What is Logan's chance, really? Colossus 10/10.
HAHAHAHA!!! Yeah and Wolverine's skeleton survived that same explosion (Adamantium) no problem, but Cap's shield (stronger than adamantium) had a big piece missing.

Still want to use that example?

And Colossus' body was certainly messed up.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If a motorcycle runs into a cement wall at 130mph, you have a totaled motorcycle. If a bulldozer runs into a cement wall at 20mph, you have a totaled wall.
If an unbreakable knife was on the front of that motorcycle after the crash it would be sunk into that wall to the hilt.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I specifically recall a comic where Wolverine slashes at Hulk. Hulk reels back and holds his neck then looks and sees no damage then asks if he has bone claws. Then proceeds to attack him.
Yet in the Rampaging Hulk # 8 OR 9 Wolverine stabs Hulk with his bone claws and Hulk was definitely in a lot of pain.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus usualy fairs better than Wolverine does when they skirmish...:
Only if your opinion is skewed against Wolverine. They have never really had any standard 1 on 1 fight at normal power levels.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus vs. Wolverine-I:
Colossus vs. Wolverine-II:
Colossus would have beat Wolvy back then. Funny how Wolverine's greater reach didn't allow him to stab Colossus in the arms from that chokehold though. Wolverine wasn't "Wolverine" at this point in time. He was basically the team's punching bag. Colossus still didn't win anything, merely punched him a few times, which even Cyclops was doing back then. Logan sucked at this point.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus vs. Wolverine-III::
Proves Wolverine can cut Colossus. No one had any advantage.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus vs. Wolverine-IV:
Win for Wolverine. Proves Colossus wont do what is necessary to put Wolverine down. Wolverine will always have that advantage over Peter.
Originally posted by snoopdogg Wolverine was known as Death and was a Horseman of Apocolypse so his abilities were amped during this fight:
None of Wolvy's abilities were amped for this fight. There is no evidence anywhere that supports your argument that he was. He simply traded his claws for bombs, gadgets, and a non-adamantium sword and beat Colossus.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus vs. Wolverine-V:
Is that even a cannon comic? I've never seen that issue and it doesn't indicate anything at all anyway. Wolverine wasn't even trying to fight Colossus, but let him know that if he continued he would fight back. Wolverine can attack unsuspecting friends too. Funny how you include this, but ignore the 3 or 4 occassions Wolverine has threatened Colosus with much more significant results.
1) hurled him into Juggs.
2) Shrugged off Colossus's full powered blow and threatened him with claws till the other X-Men had to intervene.
3) Threatened him with claws when Colossus interrupted his Danger Room workout. X-Men had to step in.
4) Swipes at Colossus and the big guy falls over in an attempt to get out of the way.

The phrase "...SCORING the organic steel armor--Super-strong, but no match for pure Adamantium." says enough for me to make up my mind.

http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definition/score
Score (noun): A slight surface cut (especially a notch that is made to keep a tally).

Wolverine isn't going to do much more than scratch Colossus a bunch. I have to give this one to Piotr. Sorry Wolvie.

None of Wolvy's abilities were amped for this fight. There is no evidence anywhere that supports your argument that he was. He simply traded his claws for bombs, gadgets, and a non-adamantium sword and beat Colossus.

We've been through this, he was enhanced, I'm pretty sure of it. He does pound a metal door into a pulp, which was at the same time being reinforced by the strongest Telekinetic at the time. He also did casully destroy a thick concrete wall. When did he use these explosives you're so eagerly talking about?

Originally posted by riceroost
None of Wolvy's abilities were amped for this fight. There is no evidence anywhere that supports your argument that he was. He simply traded his claws for bombs, gadgets, and a non-adamantium sword and beat Colossus.
Really? I believe Storm mentions something about his strength being amped or some sh!t. Only a Wolverine fanboy would say he wasn't amped. Are you one?

Originally posted by riceroost

Is that even a cannon comic?
It sure is cannon. When Wolverine pops his claws he's ready for a fight. He just wasn't fast enough to counter Colossus' attack. And Colossus pinned him to the ground against his own will. Wolverine was f*cked at that point.

Originally posted by riceroost

Funny how you include this, but ignore the 3 or 4 occassions Wolverine has threatened Colosus with much more significant results.

I can threaten to kick Mike Tyson's @ss all day long. But weather I can do it or not.........

BTW ricerroost I never said Colossus beat Wolverine but he DID get the better of him more often than not as I stated when I posted the scans.