Originally posted by riceroostWolverine even says that he always wondered if his adamantium would cut his organic steel hide. He doesn't know either. And BTW in the second fight they had Colossus must have rocked Logan pretty good cause he was down for quite awhile. A few pages later after a lengty converstion between Colossus, Storm, and Cyclops Wolverine was still on the ground...
Colossus would have beat Wolvy back then. Funny how Wolverine's greater reach didn't allow him to stab Colossus in the arms from that chokehold though. Wolverine wasn't "Wolverine" at this point in time. He was basically the team's punching bag. Colossus still didn't win anything, merely punched him a few times, which even Cyclops was doing back then. Logan sucked at this point.
Originally posted by riceroostWhat? He called Colossus a looser and flicked his cigarrete at Colossus' head. Wolverine knew Colossus would react.
Wolverine wasn't even trying to fight Colossus, but let him know that if he continued he would fight back. Wolverine can attack unsuspecting friends too.
in one of the first issues of Ultimate X-Men, didnt Wolverine go into a real simulation fighting against the rest of the X-men in the danger room and cut Colossus no problem? I know its only a simulation but its meant to be as real as possible and he even says "I've been wondering since I got here if I could cut through that brutes Osmonium cover" (probably a misquote, i read the issue at a comic store hence i dont have it with me at the moment)
Originally posted by KurashYea, Wolverine was able to cut a hologram of Colossus.
in one of the first issues of Ultimate X-Men, didnt Wolverine go into a real simulation fighting against the rest of the X-men in the danger room and cut Colossus no problem? I know its only a simulation but its meant to be as real as possible and he even says "I've been wondering since I got here if I could cut through that brutes Osmonium cover" (probably a misquote, i read the issue at a comic store hence i dont have it with me at the moment)
But here is Wolverine trying to cut the real deal.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Ultimate%20Colossus/Ult.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Ultimate%20Colossus/UltimateColossus.jpg
Originally posted by SabretoothSo what? I know damn well what "score" means. It does not mean Wolverine can ONLY scratch Colossus.
The phrase "...SCORING the organic steel armor--Super-strong, but no match for pure Adamantium." says enough for me to make up my mind.
Score (noun): A slight surface cut (especially a notch that is made to keep a tally).Wolverine isn't going to do much more than scratch Colossus a bunch. I have to give this one to Piotr. Sorry Wolvie.
When a caption says, "NO MATCH FOR ADAMANTIUM" it is implying that Wolverine can do a hell of a lot worse than just dent him. I've seen Wolverine barely scratch the likes of Spider-Man, DD, and Punisher. Does that mean that Wolverine's claws can only scratch human flesh??? No, it means they twisted out of the way, or reeled back, or he simply couldn't reach out enough to do deeper damage. The same thing applies here.
Colossus is clearly leaning back and away from Wolverine's slash in Annual # 6. Christ, you can't hit it out of the park every damn swing. That's like a batter hitting a single off Roger Clemens and then for the rest of his career you assume it's impossible for that batter to ever get more than a single even though he's hit home runs against every other pitcher as good or better than Clemens.
You also dont take the time to notice that Wolverine takes a backhand swipe at Colossus, using the DULL spine of his claws to strike Peter, instead of the bladed undersides.
Originally posted by JyppeOh your pretty sure? Thats nice, I'm definitely sure he wasn't enhanced. Since I never saw it anywhere and it wasn't stated anywhere. You have no proof.
We've been through this, he was enhanced, I'm pretty sure of it.
Originally posted by JyppeWolverine with normal strength is fully capable of pounding a metal door to a pulp. And it could have easily been some sort of gadget or bomb that overpowered Nate.
He does pound a metal door into a pulp, which was at the same time being reinforced by the strongest Telekinetic at the time.
Originally posted by JyppeWolverine punched Rogue through a brick wall the first time he ever met her. That proves nothing.
He also did casully destroy a thick concrete wall.
Originally posted by JyppeWhen he fought Colossus and Rogue in the X-Mansion. Funny how he didn't use this massive super strength upgrade you are talking about against them, since it would have been the perfect time to use it. Instead he relies on gadgets.
When did he use these explosives you're so eagerly talking about?
Originally posted by snoopdoggIssue numbers please. Again, where was that amped strength against Colossus or Rogue? And if he was amped where did that mysterious power-up fly off too? Warren kept the metal wings after he left old Blue Lips.
Really? I believe Storm mentions something about his strength being amped or some sh!t.
Originally posted by snoopdoggI am a huge Wolverine fan and I dont point out anything that isn't true. No one can deny that.
Only a Wolverine fanboy would say he wasn't amped. Are you one?
Originally posted by snoopdoggIssue numbers please. I ask because I dont remember it and I want to make sure I have it in my collection. Can't tolerate gaps in the collection you know.
It sure is cannon. When Wolverine pops his claws he's ready for a fight. He just wasn't fast enough to counter Colossus' attack. And Colossus pinned him to the ground against his own will. Wolverine was f*cked at that point.
And I couldn't counter my little brother's attack if I was chillin on a rock. What's your point? Try proving Wolverine was *ucked. I seem to remember Wolverine being pinned by Thing and then a split second later half Ben's face was gone. Same thing could easily have happened to Colossus' pinning arm. Wolverine did not want a fight. He was obviously trying to get Colossus out of his funk in his own assholish way.
Originally posted by Grimm22WTF are you talking about. Colossus would definitely win a fight in a volcano. Wolverine gets burned down to a skeleton and stuck in lava. Meanwhile Colossus is...fine.
Unless they are fighting in a freakin' volcano, I don't see how Wolverine is going to beat Colossus
Originally posted by snoopdoggHe said that back when his claws couldn't cut through *hit. He said that around the time when his claws bounced off Warhawk's skin and according to Wolverine his claws also bounced off simple stones and steel. His ability to cut through any substance wasn't added till later. Notice in their last altercation Wolverine says he has $50 that says adamantium can cut organic steel. He seems pretty sure of what will happen by that time. So is Peter while falling over in the attempt to get away.
Wolverine even says that he always wondered if his adamantium would cut his organic steel hide.
Originally posted by snoopdoggWhich does not show in any way what happened, since there are sparks flying everywhere. Although Emma does clearly state that Wolverine will kill Colossus.
Yea, Wolverine was able to cut a hologram of Colossus.But here is Wolverine trying to cut the real deal.
Death was amped. What the F*ck was the yellow energy glowing from his body? Is that a normal Wolverine power? And Storm was amazed at Deaths strength when he through...somebody(can't remember) through a portal. Storm has been a teamate of Wolverine for years prior to that, and yet she was amazed at Deaths strength.
Originally posted by snoopdoggno offense but all that looks like is an energy blast....
Death was amped. What the F*ck was the yellow energy glowing from his body? Is that a normal Wolverine power?
wolverine's body was never proven to be enhanced as death...
he wore armor that had energy blasts, tk (psyonic) failsafes, an admantium sword, camoflauge mode, and grenades.
no strength upgrade was ever mentioned.
Originally posted by snoopdoggthrew someone through a portal.....
and Storm was amazed at Deaths strength when he through...somebody(can't remember) through a portal. Storm has been a teamate of Wolverine for years prior to that, and yet she was amazed at Deaths strength.
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okay.. well again wolverine's effortlessly tossed collosus into juggernaught,
he's also single handedly lobbed a dumpster from one end of an alley to another... throwing a person in a portal doesn't seem all that impressive lest he threw them for miles... 😐
Originally posted by jinzinIs a energy blast a indication of a upgrade? Obvisously it was the energy blast that finished Colossus. It wasn't Wolverine under his normal power that's for sure.
no offense but all that looks like is an energy blast....wolverine's body was never proven to be enhanced as death...
he wore armor that had energy blasts, tk (psyonic) failsafes, an admantium sword, camoflauge mode, and grenades.no strength upgrade was ever mentioned.
threw someone through a portal.....
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okay.. well again wolverine's effortlessly tossed collosus into juggernaught,
he's also single handedly lobbed a dumpster from one end of an alley to another... throwing a person in a portal doesn't seem all that impressive lest he threw them for miles... 😐
