Originally posted by Bardock42
That the person who doubts everything believes in a shitload of shit. Like. They might believe that they exist, that the earth rotates, that their name is Jean Paul, that they won't die if they breath, that they will die eventually....but they also believe that they can not know these things and realize it is a believe at most.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well, thats just stupid as hell.
No. It is true. What do you know? I mean really? What do you know? For fact. 100%. No doubt? What? And how?
Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, I've never seen you write "belief" just "believe" when it should've been "belief".
That is not true, you may check back. I do know of the difference, Though I must admit I make the mistake. Just as I oftentimes write "jsut" instead of "just" and "extend" instead of "extent". But I am working it, but thank you.
Originally posted by Regret
For fun:281 ways to irritate an atheist.
It seems many theists fall into these when discussing atheism and theism.
Some of those are indeed irritating in the same way as asking people that discuss Van Gogh if that is the "Goalkeeper that broke his nose in the last Eindhoven game" is.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No. It is true. What do you know? I mean really? What do you know? For fact. 100%. No doubt? What? And how?That is not true, you may check back. I do know of the difference, Though I must admit I make the mistake. Just as I oftentimes write "jsut" instead of "just" and "extend" instead of "extent". But I am working it, but thank you.
doesnt matter what i know. it matters what i believe.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you dont have to KNOW anything. you just have to have your OWN opinion.
i just think that everyone needs to believe in something. christianity, buddhist, islamic, satanist, whatever. just pick something and have faith in it.
if you cant find it yourself, you need guidance.
Your point? Did I ever say that I don't have an opinion. That I don't believe in many things? And I picked atheism and the current scientific explanation...and I do have faith in. Not as much as a Christian or Hindu or Muslim meaning I still keep my mind open to other possibilities. And that's the most reasonable way to go.
We probably can't know anything. I certainly know nothing for sure.
Big Bang, THe Evolution and no God/Gods are most likely to me and so I believe in them.
But I don't rule out the possibility of God/Gods or anything else as I know nothing for sure.
These three things make me a sceptic, an agnostic and an atheist.
I am not sure if you can follow that reasoning, it seems to be ridiculous to what is generally referred to as "believers" ... but if you think about it it's very rational and sensible.
Originally posted by Bardock42It's okay, we all make mistakes.
No. It is true. What do you know? I mean really? What do you know? For fact. 100%. No doubt? What? And how?That is not true, you may check back. I do know of the difference, Though I must admit I make the mistake. Just as I oftentimes write "jsut" instead of "just" and "extend" instead of "extent". But I am working it, but thank you.
Originally posted by RegretI like 11, 16, 39, 44 and 23 best, but 24 n 25 are WTF?
For fun:281 ways to irritate an atheist.
It seems many theists fall into these when discussing atheism and theism.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you dont have to KNOW anything. you just have to have your OWN opinion.
i just think that everyone needs to believe in something. christianity, buddhist, islamic, satanist, whatever. just pick something and have faith in it.
if you cant find it yourself, you need guidance.
Originally posted by Victor Von DoomHow so? When people turned away from God and Religion, we discovered places in the world that were unimaginable. We can now live 3 times the amount before, we know why we are fat, stupid, injured etc. and we can cure diseases that back then weren't even known to exist. This is evolution, and it didn't happen until people turned around from the religious point of view, to the scientific point of view.
Could technically use that as an argument for there being a God. Despite meaning, just using the strict, technically correct meaning of the words (As this thread is wont to do).
Originally posted by lord xyz
How so? When people turned away from God and Religion, we discovered places in the world that were unimaginable. We can now live 3 times the amount before, we know why we are fat, stupid, injured etc. and we can cure diseases that back then weren't even known to exist. This is evolution, and it didn't happen until people turned around from the religious point of view, to the scientific point of view.
That's one kind of 'evolution'.
It's a language point, not a disputing of the idea. I made it more generally as well; not specifically in relation to you.
Originally posted by Victor Von DoomI already knew that. I mean, languages evolve faster than anything else, if I told you French, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian all came from Latin, but evolved due to dialects, accents etc. you may or may not believe me depending on how you were taught to think. But it's true, that's why they share words like 'vento' meaning wind, which is also latin for wind. Hence 'ventolation'.
Now you're catching on.
The evolution of languages is an analogy I use when debating the evolution of species. Same process if you think about it.