Ryu and Terry Bogard vs Geese Howard and M. Bison

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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
When his father forces him to, at least in the earlier years... everything after 97 was kyo's own power begining to manifest, and he stopped acting like a self involved arrogant cockhead.

Man kyo sucks,so, he jobbs bosses with no skill as well?

nly everything before 98, after the Orochi battle, he took everything more seriously, hevce why he thorouly owned during most of the nests stuff (Like blowing away Krizalid in a single blast when he was utterly trouncing K' and Co.)

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
nly everything before 98, after the Orochi battle, he took everything more seriously, hevce why he thorouly owned during most of the nests stuff (Like blowing away Krizalid in a single blast when he was utterly trouncing K' and Co.)

In a single blast, christ! Did krizilid own the cast like every boss just to be jobbed by kyo?

No, just the K' 4 man team.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, just the K' 4 man team.

And kyo beats him with one single attack?

Yeah, from a distance though, I think it was either the Orochinagi SDM, or the ground fireball that he was supposed to give up after 95...

Strangely... I never read those comics, and never saw the third FF movie... the only reason I think either Iori or Kyo would win in a direct fight with terry is because of their natural powers, and although I dislike Kyo, I think Iori's self destructive training gives him the edge (he's dedicated to his fighting, unlike Kyo)

trust me you would never wanna read that shit. FF movie isn't so great either cuz they don't show Terry's real persona. he's like a brooding, weak willed, girly looking guy in that thing. while really he's that chillded, easy going, strong willed and a bit of a lunk head.
he's always thinking about Lily (some chick who doesn't even exist in the FF world) and gets drunk if he loses a fight....oh and all his girlfriends die. poor bastard.

as for the comics get a load of this:
-iori originally wanted to be a pianoist in the KoF2000 comics.
-Takuma and Akuma ride to T-rexes in SNK vs Capcom
-Iori's hair were black but became red when he killed his mother in KoF 96
-Kyo and Kasumi are lovers in KoF 96
-K' cannot even touch Krauser in a one-on-one fight. KoF...can't remmeber.
-K' wanted to **** Whip in KoF 99.
-Whip and Krizalid are god tiers in KoF 99 comics....no kidding.
-takuma wipes the floor with Ryu in SNK vs Capcom

and yes....i think you get the picture.

~Sado

Shhh, its not Takuma. Its Shin Mr Karate. He doesnt want anyone to know, remember?

Hey Darkstorm, thanks. You just proved my point about Rugal. 😎 "nly everything before 98" ding. As for blastin Kriz with an orochinagi, well, that just proves that NESTS saga sucks, and that clones are no match for the real thing. And he actually does still have the ground fireball, he got it back somewhere around KOF2K1 or so.

As for Kyo vs. anybody: Kyo gets owned by Iori. Period. Iori breaks his own arms with lead pipes, climbs mountains and burns himself out from the inside with the magatama no orochi. His fingers rend steel and flesh. Dude trains harder than an olympian. He just wants it more. Kyo never does shit and yet he somehow can school everyone from Rugal to Orochi and those NESTS suckas.

Terry vs. Kyo: Terry beats Kyo's ass like a redheaded stepchild. Brain is going to maul me for this, but I really don't see Kyo beating Terry at this point. And as for Rock being better than Terry cause he has his father's moves, check out the latest KOF games. Terry has moves similar to raging storm and Deadly Rave. Not to mention his version of shine knuckle. So Rock picked a few of them up from Terry.

Terry vs. Iori: tough call. At this point, despite Brain and P-Geyser's pleas for either side, I call it a draw. HOWEVER, Terry > Orochi Iori at this point. Keep in mind that Orochi Iori actually weakens Iori at this point, so Terry has a good shot of winning. Normal Orochi Iori, where he gets the power boost, yeah, he probably beats Terry. But this version? Terry schools him.

The comics: Iori is a guitar player, so that piano bullshit goes right into the dumpster.

Gouki and Takuma fought each other in the comic, except he was Mr. Karate.

That shit about Iori's hair is only true in the wet dream of whatever fanboy wrote the comic. 😄

🤨 Actually possible, but Kyo supposedly has a girlfriend. But I give him mad props for nailing Kasumi Todo. 👆 She's cute.

Only part of the comic I agree with. Krizalid is nothing compared to the Earl of Strolheim.

🤨 Aren't they related? 😘 Messed up shit right there.

Complete Bullshit. Whip and Kriz god-tier? You could make a better case for, Ryo Sakazaki 😂 , or on a serious note, Geese Howard and Krauser.

Now, Mr Karate beating Ryu is possible, depending on which version it is. Oops, did you Shin? Nevermind, Shin whups Ryu.

Yo People, What's up with all the anti Kyo posts? You should respect the mans' greatness. Also, what does the term Jobber mean?

Definition of jobber Also see: Guile in SFA3, Kyo Kusanagi.

I don't respect his greatness because I don't see him having any. He's not that good. And the orochi thing does not count, that was pure plot device.

Thanks for the def. Kyo does have greatness. So it's not ok to count Kyos' plot device but it's ok to count Orochis' when he's in a loosing a fight? IMO, Orochi isn't even that powerful with out his plot device.

Originally posted by Sado22
trust me you would never wanna read that shit. FF movie isn't so great either cuz they don't show Terry's real persona. he's like a brooding, weak willed, girly looking guy in that thing. while really he's that chillded, easy going, strong willed and a bit of a lunk head.
he's always thinking about Lily (some chick who doesn't even exist in the FF world) and gets drunk if he loses a fight....oh and all his girlfriends die. poor bastard.

as for the comics get a load of this:
-iori originally wanted to be a pianoist in the KoF2000 comics.
-Takuma and Akuma ride to T-rexes in SNK vs Capcom
-Iori's hair were black but became red when he killed his mother in KoF 96
-Kyo and Kasumi are lovers in KoF 96
-K' cannot even touch Krauser in a one-on-one fight. KoF...can't remmeber.
-K' wanted to **** Whip in KoF 99.
-Whip and Krizalid are god tiers in KoF 99 comics....no kidding.
-takuma wipes the floor with Ryu in SNK vs Capcom

and yes....i think you get the picture.

~Sado

I remember that fight with K and Krauser. I recall Krauser telling K if he could just touch him in the fight, and of course K did even though Krauser was handing out more of the ass whoopin.

Terry was horribly jobbed in the comics. Here are the few screws that get me.

The Fatal Fury Team lost to The Korean Team because the time ran out.

The Fatal Fury team loses to The Japan Team(actually making Terry to Benimaru's level)

The Fatal Fury team loses to Iori(Big Overration of Iori)

Terry loses to Ryo....I am sorry but that fight was B.S. As good as Ryo is, that was bogus....both Terry and Ryo are displaying skills back and fourth. Terry hits Ryo with a power geyser and a high angle geyser and somehow Ryo is unfazed. Ryo executes his super, and Terry is on his knees coughing up blood...ridicouls. In the manga(not comic)of KOF 94 that I have, Terry defeats Ryo but Ryo loses respectfully...not like this shit.

Terry loses to Ryo....I am sorry but that fight was B.S. As good as Ryo is, that was bogus....both Terry and Ryo are displaying skills back and fourth. Terry hits Ryo with a power geyser and a high angle geyser and somehow Ryo is unfazed. Ryo executes his super, and Terry is on his knees coughing up blood...ridicouls. In the manga(not comic)of KOF 94 that I have, Terry defeats Ryo but Ryo loses respectfully...not like this shit.

yeah that was KoF 99 if i remember correct.
apparently Terry forgot that if he is in "armor mode" [in the comics fighters can actually actually go into armor mode, lol] he can't do a power. lololololoolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol
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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As for Kyo vs. anybody: Kyo gets owned by Iori. Period. Iori breaks his own arms with lead pipes, climbs mountains and burns himself out from the inside with the magatama no orochi. His fingers rend steel and flesh. Dude trains harder than an olympian. He just wants it more. Kyo never does shit and yet he somehow can school everyone from Rugal to Orochi and those NESTS suckas.

Terry vs. Kyo: Terry beats Kyo's ass like a redheaded stepchild.

😆Just like he has every other time they fought?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Brain is going to maul me for this, but I really don't see Kyo beating Terry at this point.
No need to maul, but please explain why. The worst Kyo can do against him is draw. Kyo ain't losing to Terry. I see them as near equals w/Kyo having a slight edge. Kyo wins.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And as for Rock being better than Terry cause he has his father's moves,
Who said that?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
check out the latest KOF games. Terry has moves similar to raging storm and Deadly Rave. Not to mention his version of shine knuckle. So Rock picked a few of them up from Terry.
Terry's always had moves similar to R.Storm though. What calender year is MOTW set in? Terry shouldn't have a DR type move. That should be reserved for Howards only. Even PG said it don't seem like Terry. Going by the game release times, Rock was doing it a long time ago. Way before Terry. They just gave it to Terry to try to make him as cool as Rock 🙂 He'll be doing Angel wings next.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Terry vs. Iori: tough call. At this point, despite Brain and P-Geyser's pleas for either side, I call it a draw. HOWEVER, Terry > Orochi Iori at this point. Keep in mind that Orochi Iori actually weakens Iori at this point, so Terry has a good shot of winning.
Not even close. Even with that weakness he was able to beat up on Kyo & Shingo. Something Terry ain't NEVER been able to do. O.Iori had to be taken down by alot of people. Terry has 0 chance by himself. How Terry got to be > than any version of Iori is a mystery to me. Iori's succeded where Terry's always failed & somehow Terry's better? Please explain.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Normal Orochi Iori, where he gets the power boost, yeah, he probably beats Terry. But this version? Terry schools him. .
Not even close. Even with that weakness he was able to beat up on Kyo & Shingo. Something Terry ain't NEVER been able to do. O.Iori had to be taken down by alot of people. Terry has 0 chance by himself. Terry can fight for a while w/normal Iori but he'll still lose. When Terry can start beating down teams by himself it'll be more of a fight. Terry vs O.Iori is still a 1sided beatdown w/Terry receiving it. I'm not sure about there being 2 types of O.Iori. What stopped him from having the boost? Still seems that O.Iori>>>>>>>>>Iori>>Terry< Kyo
Originally posted by Remulous
Yo People, What's up with all the anti Kyo posts? You should respect the mans' greatness.
Ditto. If Kyo sucks(he don't) what does that mean for those who never managed to defeat him or have the advantage over him when the fight is stopped? Wouldn't they suck as well?

I still don't get how ash beat orochi Iori. There is no excuse for that crap, there is no way he would be fatigued enough by fighting Shingo And kyo. So, what the hell?

Didn't ash already have something that Orochi'd be weak against though?

Originally posted by brainchild81
Didn't ash already have something that Orochi'd be weak against though?

The yata mirror that ash stole from chizuru, somehow. Maybe if he had stolen the kusanagi flame and yata mirror, then It would be plausible. But, Orochi Iori is a boss character of the highest proportions. How does he lose to a guy who is not sure he's a guy?!

This jobbing is an art form to playmore

EDIT: hey brainchild, can you explain why you think kyo is stronger than terry?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
The yata mirror that ash stole from chizuru, somehow. Maybe if he had stolen the kusanagi flame and yata mirror, then It would be plausible. But, Orochi Iori is a boss character of the highest proportions. How does he lose to a guy who is not sure he's a guy?! This jobbing is an art form to playmore
I hate it too, but even the strongest can lose when someone uses something they're weak against. Still, Iori had just finished kicking a bunch of @ss, not just Kyo & Shingo

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

EDIT: hey brainchild, can you explain why you think kyo is stronger than terry?

*Beating* Rugal & doing better against Goenitz than Rugal did. It always seems to be implied that Kyo's a bit better.

Even though comics don't count, SNK did supervise the SVC books & Geese tells Kyo "You're not MUCH better than Terry"

@ worst they're equal. That's why I have Kyo being greater than or equal to.
Now can anybody explain how Terry's stronger than Kyo? Probably the cool hat 🙂

Originally posted by brainchild81
I hate it too, but even the strongest can lose when someone uses something they're weak against. Still, Iori had just finished kicking a bunch of @ss, not just Kyo & Shingo

C'mon, you honestly belive that was a legit fight? Being exahuasted from fighting shingo, and kyo?

That just seems like snk not caring much for hierarchy.

Originally posted by brainchild81

*Beating* Rugal & doing better against Goenitz than Rugal did. It always seems to be implied that Kyo's a bit better.

Even though comics don't count, SNK did supervise the SVC books & Geese tells Kyo "You're not MUCH better than Terry"

@ worst they're equal. That's why I have Kyo being greater than or equal to.
Now can anybody explain how Terry's stronger than Kyo. Probably the cool hat 🙂


I always thought that since he won the first kof tournament, and the fact that he's plowed through his own list of formidabale bosses helped in his favor. Not to mention that he trains hell ov a lot more than kyo.