Ryu and Terry Bogard vs Geese Howard and M. Bison

"That wasn't sarcasm at all(or BS ). That's really what I think would happen. I've no intention of word warring, but I'm not going to lie to you either. Not wise to fight O.Iori w/out some kinda help. Even if you do have heart. I am trying to give sarcasm up though."

You sure that was not sarcasm?...."I am Terry Bogard and I have heart"

"I'm also trying to stop calling you crazy, but when you say stuff like this Where did I say Terry can't hold a candle to them? I just finished saying how him & Kyo were near equals. You alright?"

I am quite fine actually. Lets get it straight, I dont want Terry to possess flames. As I stated I was merely replying when I heard you state the fact that Terry would have no chance against Kyo if he had Terry's ablities and such..that's all.

"Yeah I've heard it. It's usually used when someone takes a good beating and doesn't give up. I still don't see where his heart has helped him to school them yet. He hasn't because heart can only take you so far. & I still don't see how you guys can say they have none. What is that based on?"

As well you can say vice versa. Since Kyo and Iori have been able to weild flames it states nowhere that they have schooled him either. Kyo is a slacker plus he does not have what it takes to survive and train....not saying that he does not train because I know he does. Iori I would say has more determination than Kyo.

"I knew that Terry'd never beaten Kyo loooooooooong before sado got here man."

It has never been stated that Kyo had actually beaten Terry Bogard in KOF 94 as well.

"Good question. It varies dependending on whether what TP says about this version of O.Iori being weaker than Regular Iori is true. If it is, then he'd logically beat them even worse. I always knew he was better than Kyo. Didn't think it was such a large gap though. Iori always said he could beat teams by himself though."

I have to agree somewhat. The only part I agree on, is Iori being ahead than Kyo in the skill department because he trains his ass off(Like Mr Terry Bogard)I also go by upbringing's and backgrounds on the fighters. Kyo does train but it's nothing compared to Iori who almost trained to the point of exhaustion. Though I dont think Iori can beat whole teams by himself...those comics once again are infamous 😘

"That's what I think until I get the slightest proof otherwise. Care to try disproving it? & please come w/something better than heart mane. Terry & Kyo seem pretty even & we know Iori's better than Kyo. Iori's better than Terry too then. Terry beatin' up teams by himself mane?"

I feel the exact same way mane. All it show's is that O'Iori took out both Kyo and Shingo and Billy and Eiji mane. Not regular Iori mane. I did say that Iori is more skilled than Kyo but not Terry. I never said that Terry beat teams by himself either...MANE. As well care to try to come up with something better than destroying teams that are not bossess because it never stated that anywhere.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
You sure that was not sarcasm?...."I am Terry Bogard and I have heart"

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I am quite fine actually. Lets get it straight, I dont want Terry to possess flames. As I stated I was merely replying when I heard you state the fact that Terry would have no chance against Kyo if he had Terry's ablities and such..that's all.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
As well you can say vice versa. Since Kyo and Iori have been able to weild flames it states nowhere that they have schooled him either.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Kyo is a slacker plus he does not have what it takes to survive and train....

Originally posted by P-Geyser
It has never been stated that Kyo had actually beaten Terry Bogard in KOF 94 as well.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I have to agree somewhat. The only part I agree on, is Iori being ahead than Kyo in the skill department because he trains his ass off(Like Mr Terry Bogard)I also go by upbringing's and backgrounds on the fighters. Kyo does train but it's nothing compared to Iori who almost trained to the point of exhaustion. Though I dont think Iori can beat whole teams by himself...those comics once again are infamous

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I feel the exact same way mane. All it show's is that O'Iori took out both Kyo and Shingo and Billy and Eiji mane. Not regular Iori mane.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I did say that Iori is more skilled than Kyo but not Terry.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I never said that Terry beat teams by himself either...MANE.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
As well care to try to come up with something better than destroying teams that are not bossess because it never stated that anywhere.

"Oh. Sorry about that. Was trying to make a point I just think him having heart is a lame justification for a victory because he’s had it before & still didn’t defeat them. & I still wonder what makes you think they don’t have heart."

I can see it in Iori...though I cant really see it in Kyo...sorry. Kyo is destined to be the heir to the Kusanagi throne and to slay Orochi combined with the teaming of Iori and Chizuru thats it. Kyo does train which I already agree but it was not in the means of survival...I dont think Kyo ever experienced that.

"Again, what abilities are you talking about?
& you still didn’t answer. Where did I say Terry couldn’t hold a candle to them?"

Okay my fault I am looking at every post...you stated train as much as Terry. Still in a way it sounds like that. Since Terry has learned everything from his training and surviving...hearing as how if Kyo also did that combined with his ability to weild flames, Terry would not have a chance. I see now that you think Terry and Kyo are equal, but you still say Terry is beneath Iori.

"Nah. You can’t say vice versa. You listed Terry’s heart as being the reason he’d beat them. I don’t think that the flames are the only reason they beat him. I’ve said before that if the flames were all they were about that Terry’d beat the s**t outta them"

Really you have stated that?...please show me the link to that one. Actually I was trying to be a little sarcastic myself when I stated that(in replying to you somewhat)yes Terry does have the heart, the skill, the determination. As I mentioned it gets tiring when I hear people say(Again not you exactly)Kyo and Iori can beat Terry because they beat a god and can throw flames crap.

"He’s a slacker, but how do you know that Kyo doesn’t have what it takes to survive & train? How do you know that he & Iori don’t have heart? What is this based on?"

Because Kyo has had somewhat of a pampered lifestyle..."Rich Man's son of Flames"...as I stated already Kyo does train and has the martial arts knowledge, but in my view it's not in the likes of Terry,Ryu,Ryo and yes I will now add Iori to the list because his ubrining is king of f@@ked up. Kyo has not had to survive on his own through his skill form what I recall. His old man was training him as I believe..though I will do my own checking on that fact.

"Not really. I’ve never seen these books even though I’d like to. The beating teams thing comes from a few profiles I’ve read(one was shown to me in a link that you posted), not some comics"

If you find the comics, read them at your own risk...well I maybe should not say that. Since Iori is treated like Superman as well as Kyo. The only thing you may not like is that Ryo also gets high props.

"I’ve heard he was normal when he beat up Billy & Eiji. Just not happy w/their performance. & still O.Iori beating up Kyo & Shingo logically puts O.Iori a good deal above Terry since Terry can only stalemate a lone Kyo don’t you think? t=k so k+s>t & o>>k+s so o>>t"

I will have to do some checking to see if that was O' Iori that thrashed Billy and Eiji. Still it states nowhere that Terry and Kyo stalemated. It never said of anything of Terry losing to Kyo...it never even states of The Fatal Fury Team taking on The Japan Team. It only states that the Japan team won.

"Kyo & Terry are pretty much equal via stalemate. We both agree that Iori’s better than Kyo. How can he not also be better than Terry? Explain this to me"

Yeah it would seem we both agree on Iori being more skilled than Kyo but that's it. See the thing is Terry is the KOF champion in one on one singles(some say it's Ryo). Kyo is the champion of KOF champion of teams. I recall you mentioning that Terry not KOF winning due to his teammates not Terry himself. In my opinion I think that Terry would have a hard time fighting Iori moreso than Kyo. Again it's not proven fact that Kyo and Terry stalemated or that The Fatal Fury team faced the Japan team. Second I have never seen any proof of Iori being better than Terry.

"Never said you did mane"

It sounded that way to me mane.

"Did that a long time ago. Read what I’m saying above. I’ve given a few reasons for my side of the argument & they’re all better than that “heart” stuff any day of the week."

I disagree. What are you saying above may I ask? ....was it "Never said you did mane" 😉 as I said I was being a little sarcastic, but I was being a little serious in my comment as well.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I can see it in Iori...though I cant really see it in Kyo...sorry. Kyo is destined to be the heir to the Kusanagi throne and to slay Orochi combined with the teaming of Iori and Chizuru thats it. Kyo does train which I already agree but it was not in the means of survival...I dont think Kyo ever experienced that.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Okay my fault I am looking at every post

Originally posted by P-Geyser
...you stated train as much as Terry. Still in a way it sounds like that. Since Terry has learned everything from his training and surviving...hearing as how if Kyo also did that combined with his ability to weild flames, Terry would not have a chance. I see now that you think Terry and Kyo are equal, but you still say Terry is beneath Iori.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Really you have stated that?...please show me the link to that one.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Actually I was trying to be a little sarcastic myself when I stated that(in replying to you somewhat)yes Terry does have the heart, the skill, the determination. As I mentioned it gets tiring when I hear people say(Again not you exactly)Kyo and Iori can beat Terry because they beat a god and can throw flames crap.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Because Kyo has had somewhat of a pampered lifestyle..."Rich Man's son of Flames"...as I stated already Kyo does train and has the martial arts knowledge, but in my view it's not in the likes of Terry,Ryu,Ryo and yes I will now add Iori to the list because his ubrining is king of f@@ked up. Kyo has not had to survive on his own through his skill form what I recall. His old man was training him as I believe..though I will do my own checking on that fact.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
If you find the comics, read them at your own risk...well I maybe should not say that. Since Iori is treated like Superman as well as Kyo. The only thing you may not like is that Ryo also gets high props.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I will have to do some checking to see if that was O' Iori that thrashed Billy and Eiji.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Yeah it would seem we both agree on Iori being more skilled than Kyo but that's it. See the thing is Terry is the KOF champion in one on one singles(some say it's Ryo).

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Kyo is the champion of KOF champion of teams. I recall you mentioning that Terry not KOF winning due to his teammates not Terry himself. In my opinion I think that Terry would have a hard time fighting Iori moreso than Kyo. Again it's not proven fact that Kyo and Terry stalemated or that The Fatal Fury team faced the Japan team. Second I have never seen any proof of Iori being better than Terry.

To be fair, there really wasn't much competition in Terry's heyday. Even Sado finally admitted the others looked weak. Terry also had help during these "singles" KOFs. Isn't that flat out cheating mane?

LAter, curly😄
~Sado

Originally posted by brainchild81
Ohh. So it's just speculation. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Terry's got more heart than Kyo. Still doesn't mean Kyo has no heart. But I think you're putting to much stock into the heart = victory stuff. Like I said that heart stuff is usually said when one takes a beating and doesn't quit. If heart = victory, Terry would have been able to will himself to @ least 1 KOF victory since Kyo showed up. Why hasn't he, because even though it looks pretty on paper, having heart can only take you so far.

Well from what Sado mentioned(not sure gotta check back)Terry lost due to the time running out. See the great thing about Terry(not sure about Kyo and Iori)he lives for the fight...and it always does not have to be about the winning but the actually fight of which he enjoys. I dont think you can put Kyo and Iori in that place. Kyo's purpose is to seal the Orochi along with Chizuru and Iori. Iori's purpose is to infact kill Kyo. I was using the "heart" comment as I said to be somewhat sarcastic but somewhat true.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Near equals is the real term. Still think Kyo is better. I just use "=" for analogies. If a slacker Kyo has made it this far then it's safe to say a hardworking one would be quite dangerous. He's comparable to Terry now, logically he'd beat his @ss down if he trained more often. & yes I do feel Terry is beneath Iori. I haven't even seen a passable pseudo proof otherwise. Iori kicks @ss big time mane.

I say tomato, you say tommotto, I say Potato, you say Pototto. Again it has never been shown or proven that they are ahead of Terry. I think Kyo and Iori are beneath Terry. Again I was using that comment on if Terry had flames to the comment you just stated. There was something special about Mr. Bogard from day 1...he has the fighting spirit that not many fighters possess. Yeah Kyo has gotten far but he has gotten far through a team effort.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Sh*t. Always having me look for stuff.

Sorry bout that mane 😄

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Did you ever look over that quote I showed you where you took back your claim of me being biased? I'll find this one too but it may take a lil longer. Might go faster if we both look. Can you find a post where I say Iori & Kyo own Terry due to flames?

Dude you and I have written back and fourth so many times, we could of had a best selling novel. Yeah I will try to search when I really have the time. Ah here is one of your replies on the Terry vs Kyo thread.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Kyo. The fire would simply overwhelm Terry.

It kinda sounds like that dont you think?

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Be tired of that where it happens though mane. Nobody says that stuff here so you no longer have to worry about it. That "Terry beat a god so he owns everybody" crap seems to be spread around a bit more HERE.
He hasn't had too don't mean he couldn't mane(use "mane" again & I sue you mane😆 ). Hence it is mere speculation.

Is that so mane 😆 Well if you look around latley nobody is bringing up the Terry beating the God of mars in the anime. Those posters have been long gone.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
It's good they stopped w/that. Last one I saw him in, he was being shown up by Mignon Bert. Still, that stuff about Iori being able to beat teams by himself was in a link YOU posted.

From what I recall I linked you to two sites. I am going to check that. It was probably mentioning O Iori not Iori.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Try @ least 2 sources and link to 'em please.

When I find them I will.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
To be fair, there really wasn't much competition in Terry's heyday. Even Sado finally admitted the others looked weak. Terry also had help during these "singles" KOFs. Isn't that flat out cheating mane?

Competition you say?...so you think Billy Kane, Laurence Blood, Krauser, Geese, Kim, are not really competition?....um okay. He has no help in fighting Geese or Krauser. Also Sado just answered your question from what I see.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Ok. But w/O.Iori, if Terry needed a mess of help to subdue him by force, doesn't that mean Terry can't take O.Iori by himself?

I said I think it would be a stalemate. Again I never seen proof of this scenerio. If the scenerio was Terry and others trying to subdue O Iori by force than most likley he would lose...BUT as I said Terry Bogard aint going down easliy. Certainly not in the way of Billy and Eiji.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Well from what Sado mentioned(not sure gotta check back)Terry lost due to the time running out. See the great thing about Terry(not sure about Kyo and Iori)he lives for the fight...and it always does not have to be about the winning but the actually fight of which he enjoys. I dont think you can put Kyo and Iori in that place.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
There was something special about Mr. Bogard from day 1...he has the fighting spirit that not many fighters possess. Yeah Kyo has gotten far but he has gotten far through a team effort.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Sorry bout that mane 😄

Dude you and I have written back and fourth so many times, we could of had a best selling novel. Yeah I will try to search when I really have the time. Ah here is one of your replies on the Terry vs Kyo thread.
It kinda sounds like that dont you think?

Originally posted by brainchild81
False. He's always been described as a "natural". One so skilled @ fighting, that he doesn't need as much experience & training as others might. If he was just a bum w/flames he'd get his ass kicked.

Originally posted by brainchild81
And Kyo doesn't get by w/just the flames. Look @ Shingo. It's the combo of his skills AND the flames that put Kyo where he is.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Is that so mane 😆 Well if you look around latley nobody is bringing up the Terry beating the God of mars in the anime. Those posters have been long gone.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
From what I recall I linked you to two sites. I am going to check that. It was probably mentioning O Iori not Iori

Originally posted by P-Geyser

http://kof.confusticated.com/

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Competition you say?...so you think Billy Kane, Laurence Blood, Krauser, Geese, Kim, are not really competition?....um okay. He has no help in fighting Geese or Krauser. Also Sado just answered your question from what I see

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I said I think it would be a stalemate. Again I never seen proof of this scenerio. If the scenerio was Terry and others trying to subdue O Iori by force than most likley he would lose...BUT as I said Terry Bogard aint going down easliy. Certainly not in the way of Billy and Eiji.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Agreed. Kyo lives to chill out and Iori actually hates
violence(WTF?). I think against Iori that Terry & Kyo were “both saved by the bell”

What's funny is that in K's profile I recall it stating he hates being in the KOF tournament. Both save by the bell?...nah well maybe Kyo. Though Iori has never been able to defeat Kyo unless he goes into Riot Mode.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Oh? You mean like Terry & everbody vs. ‘Zaki in a “singles” KOF?

Again you are going by what Sado said....which is cool. Though I am looking and I see no mention of anything really on Ryuji's profile on his story in Fatal Fury 3.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Nah. Here’s some much more recent stuff. It’s not JUST the flames

Okay that stuff you mentioned may be recent, but you asked me to show you of where you would think Terry would lose to Kyo due to flames. Which that statement I showed sounded like it does.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Aysongail had to be told multiple times about that recently. There will be others. There’s always one more in the shadows HERE🙁

Multiple times?...I see he has come back but as of now, he has made no mention of the anime. I am also sure we may see folks coming here stating Iori breezes past Terry,Ryo and etc. The door swings both ways.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B] Look @the 96 part for reg. Iori beating on Billy & Eiji and in 97 Terry & Ryo were some of Kyo’s friends who had to stop O.Iori.

Hmmm...I am looking on Wiki. I am looking at Iori's profile and what's funny is, they state of Iori whooping Billy and Eiji's ass is having to do with his team losing to Kyo's....so If Iori was so badass and great, he should have been able to curpstomp Kyo,Beni and Goro dont you think? again we are talking about regular Iori NOT O Iori.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B] He’s the one saying Terry had help w/Geese. I think Geese was jobbed. He very conveniently underestimated Terry instead of just crushing him so Terry could win. Blood is nothing more than a victim & Billy’s a cool character but he’s not amongst the best as a fighter. He was however smart enough to get the f**k outta dodge whe he confronted Iori & Iori went riot. Kim’s a great and underrated character that gets 2% of the storyline respect he deserves. Kim should have been a serious rival to Terry but they’d rather Terry look good @ the expense of the other FFers. Terry beat Krauser down back when the wolf was way younger & less exp. Terry'd flat out kill him now

I dont agree in most of this. I believe Sado stated Andy tried to fight Geese first and then gets royally whipped. Andy somehow was nothing to Geese. Kim actually does get the recognition...the dude has been in almost every FF and KOF game, not to mention he was in FF WA(which was based on FF1)and as I told you, he is in MI 2 as a hidden character that you have to retrieve. As well how is Terry looking good at the expense of Kim? No comment on Krauser.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]He wouldn’t quit, but it would very likely be a one sided beatdown. That’s just how O.Iori rolls. Still, it was regular Iori who beat on them. Look @ the site you posted and read the Iori wiki. They got beat damn there to death by regular "bad@ss @sshole" Iori

Okay I am looking it does mention that the other fighters had to calm him down by force...It mentions nothing of plain Iori. As well I belived folks here mentioned that Wiki is not a good and accurate source...but what the hey. On Terry's profile though it mentions that he took on the newcomer Kyo, and the Dangerous Iori.....not that he was flatout beaten by them which is all I am saying.

hey brainchild!
for a little proof that Terry has more heart than anyone else in KoF:

Terry retained his tag of a great fighter, since no fighter seems to close to his dedication and spirit

HEY COME ON COME ON!
~Sado

Originally posted by P-Geyser
What's funny is that in K's profile I recall it stating he hates being in the KOF tournament. Both save by the bell?...nah well maybe Kyo. Though Iori has never been able to defeat Kyo unless he goes into Riot Mode.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Again you are going by what Sado said....which is cool. Though I am looking and I see no mention of anything really on Ryuji's profile on his story in Fatal Fury 3.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Okay that stuff you mentioned may be recent, but you asked me to show you of where you would think Terry would lose to Kyo due to flames. Which that statement I showed sounded like it does.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Multiple times?...I see he has come back but as of now, he has made no mention of the anime. I am also sure we may see folks coming here stating Iori breezes past Terry,Ryo and etc. The door swings both ways.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Hmmm...I am looking on Wiki. I am looking at Iori's profile and what's funny is, they state of Iori whooping Billy and Eiji's ass is having to do with his team losing to Kyo's....so If Iori was so badass and great, he should have been able to curpstomp Kyo,Beni and Goro dont you think? again we are talking about regular Iori NOT O Iori.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I dont agree in most of this. I believe Sado stated Andy tried to fight Geese first and then gets royally whipped. Andy somehow was nothing to Geese. Kim actually does get the recognition...the dude has been in almost every FF and KOF game, not to mention he was in FF WA(which was based on FF1)and as I told you, he is in MI 2 as a hidden character that you have to retrieve. As well how is Terry looking good at the expense of Kim?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Okay I am looking it does mention that the other fighters had to calm him down by force...It mentions nothing of plain Iori.

Hey sado. Any more data on Iori fight his way to the finals by his damn self?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
As well I belived folks here mentioned that Wiki is not a good and accurate source...but what the hey. On Terry's profile though it mentions that he took on the newcomer Kyo, and the Dangerous Iori.....not that he was flatout beaten by them which is all I am saying.

Originally posted by Sado22
hey brainchild!
for a little proof that Terry has more heart than anyone else in KoF:

and this is from teh same site that YOU linked here.

HEY COME ON COME ON!
~Sado

1.Never implied that he didn't. Just that it didn't mean he'd win because of it.
2.What site was that

~Sado

Back on topic. Bison FUBARs Terry as Geese fights Ryu w/Ryu having a slight edge. Bison then helps and they murder Ryu. Bad guys win

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]It's been said that he's had the advantage every time. That's why I mentioned "saved by the bell"

You mean over Kyo right?....actually The fights between Kyo and Iori usually get interrupted due to them teaming together.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
Got a link to this profile?

I was talking about Ryuji's file on Wiki.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Nah. It's the combo of skills & flames. If Kyo had just flames Terry could just easily avoid being hit & kick his @ss

Heheh...I see.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Nah. It doesn't, because it won't be because of a non-canon anime featuring characters that ain't never been in the games. People can think what they want about Terry, but I will ALWAYS remind those that need it that the movies mean absolutely nothing

Likewise I will ALWAYS remind those that think Kyo and Iori can run through Terry and Ryo because they can weild flames is pure B.S. and means absolutley nothing either. 😄

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]😆 Sounding kinda hateful again there mane. Iori wasn't that far above Kyo back then. His team lost 'cause Billy & Eiji didn't pull their own weight(or @ least that's how he saw it) so then he beat their @sses as punishment. Where was Terry's team?

Actually mane I was not trying to be hateful. I already stated that Iori beat them due to the fact they lost to the Japan Team. Iori should have been able to decimate Kyo's entire team according by your standards of him.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]
It's @ the expense of everybody 'Zaki whooped on. & the energy spent beating the hell outta Andy could have been spent on Terry instead
We were talking about O.Iori though. I just want to kill any noise about Terry taking him out or Terry stalemating him 😈 As tuff as Terry is, there are just certain things he can't logically do. Admitting that won't destroy the universe.

Sounds to me you just want Terry to lose to Iori period 😂 I also want people to kill the noise on SNK's most overexposed and overrated character...he is badass but that does not mean he can breeeze past almost anybody which alot of the Iori fanboys love to dream.

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]What profile are you talking about?

I was talking about Terry's profile on Wiki Curly 😆

This belongs here. Iori vs Terry Let's stay on topic.

I still say Terry and Ryu, possibly.

Just doesn't seem likely w/Bison there. If this was Geese & Krauser the good guys win no doubt.

Originally posted by brainchild81
This belongs here. Iori vs Terry Let's stay on topic.

Youre right.

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😄