"Where did this come from. Why don't they have heart? & how come his heart hasn't allowed him to school them already? I hope for Terry's sake that the next time Iori flips out that he doesn't say "Stand back people. I can take him by myself. I'm Terry Bogard & I have heart, which he lacks." Because if he does, we'll find out exactly how much heart Terry has............................and what color it is, what size it is & how it looks outside of his body"
Thats the kind of BS that is going to continue these word wars...I though you gave up on the sarcasm by the way. I was responding to the earlier comments on how still hearing Terry cant beat Kyo or Iori or hold a candle to them. I guess you never heard the term someone has "the heart" huh.
"Then it's great that he doesn't He obviously doesn't need flame to give them this whooping though, I mean with him having so much heart & all"
Just commenting on hearing if Kyo had Terry's ability and whatnot how Terry would have no chance in hell 🙄
"continued ---Terry. Terry seems to have a chance against Kyo. They seem to be nearly equal. Iori >>Kyo. So Iori also >> Terry. When Terry can beat Kyo & Shingo @ the same time you’ll have something. Will probably NEVER HAPPEN since he can’t even beat Kyo alone. Until then, O.Iori vs Terry is a one sided savage beatdown w/Terry receiving it. Does anybody have an accurate translation about what Ash said to Iori? I have to know if he was weakened & how."
That is your view Brosepth. You are really going into an awful lot of what Sado mentioned...it seems that is your only point of Terry not beating Kyo. Let me throw a curve at ya....what if it's Regular Iori NOT Orochi Iori taking on both Kyo and Shingo. What's your analysis in this matchup.
"Iori >>Kyo. So Iori also >> Terry"
wow 😮 😮 😮 😘
Originally posted by Sado22
SF1
Sagat was dethroned by Ryu via a cheapshot! the only boss to ever be defeated via cheapshot in fighting videogame history.
Ryu, didn't beat sagat, dark ryu did and he's a boss characters.
Originally posted by Sado22
SF2
bison gets new body for himself but conviniently becomes a lot weaker and conviniently loses his powers like teleporation etc to become easy pickings for the likes of Guile/Chunli (two most probable winners of SF2).
Originally posted by Sado22
SF3
gill loses to Alex on purpose.
Originally posted by Sado22
i think its pretty much as bad as SNK.
Right, 3 bosses either losing to other boss tier characters or on purpose is as bad as every boss losing to the main character despite defeating the entire cast, please sado.
Originally posted by Sado22
he choked the hell out of "barely standing" Orochi.
So, he still choked orochi.
Originally posted by Sado22
you are taking his logic the wrong (as always j/k). he never said Terry>orochi.
Ash beating orochi iori and his later comment that orochi iori was weakened does shed light on the fact that Terry anD Iori is a good fight.
if weakened Iori and Terry fought to stalemate/TO and Terry and Ash apparently fought as well (with Terry still not being beaten) and then Ash beating O.Iori kinda implies that terry would beat O.Iori.
It doesn't imply jack, to a company that makes weaker characters defeat stronger characters all the time.
Originally posted by Sado22
sure it does....
No, it doesn't, because bosses are jobbers.
Ryu, didn't beat sagat, dark ryu did and he's a boss characters.
Nope, bison loses to gouki.
Key word, "Purpose"
Right, 3 bosses either losing to other boss tier characters or on purpose is as bad as every boss losing to the main character despite defeating the entire cast, please sado.
So, he still choked orochi.
It doesn't imply jack, to a company that makes weaker characters defeat stronger characters all the time.
Originally posted by P-GeyserThat wasn't sarcasm at all(or BS 🙂). That's really what I think would happen. I've no intention of word warring, but I'm not going to lie to you either. Not wise to fight O.Iori w/out some kinda help. Even if you do have heart. I am trying to give sarcasm up though.
Thats the kind of BS that is going to continue these word wars...I though you gave up on the sarcasm by the way.
Originally posted by P-GeyserI'm also trying to stop calling you crazy, but when you say stuff like this 🙂Where did I say Terry can't hold a candle to them? I just finished saying how him & Kyo were near equals. You alright?
I was responding to the earlier comments on how still hearing Terry cant beat Kyo or Iori or hold a candle to them.
Originally posted by P-GeyserYeah I've heard it. It's usually used when someone takes a good beating and doesn't give up. I still don't see where his heart has helped him to school them yet. He hasn't because heart can only take you so far. & I still don't see how you guys can say they have none. What is that based on?
I guess you never heard the term someone has "the heart" huh.
Originally posted by P-GeyserWhat ability are you talking about?
Just commenting on hearing if Kyo had Terry's ability and whatnot how Terry would have no chance in hell 🙄
Originally posted by P-GeyserI knew that Terry'd never beaten Kyo loooooooooong before sado got here man.
That is your view Brosepth. You are really going into an awful lot of what Sado mentioned...it seems that is your only point of Terry not beating Kyo.
Originally posted by P-GeyserGood question. It varies dependending on whether what TP says about this version of O.Iori being weaker than Regular Iori is true. If it is, then he'd logically beat them even worse. I always knew he was better than Kyo. Didn't think it was such a large gap though. Iori always said he could beat teams by himself though.
Let me throw a curve at ya....what if it's Regular Iori NOT Orochi Iori taking on both Kyo and Shingo. What's your analysis in this matchup.
Originally posted by P-GeyserThat's what I think until I get the slightest proof otherwise. Care to try disproving it? & please come w/something better than heart mane. Terry & Kyo seem pretty even & we know Iori's better than Kyo. Iori's better than Terry too then. Terry beatin' up teams by himself mane?
"Iori >>Kyo. So Iori also >> Terry"wow 😮 😮 😮 😘
Originally posted by Sado22
Ryu is the same person, isn't he?
he went so desperate to win a fight he unleashed his dark side and hit THE boss character of SF1 with the lamest thing=a cheap shot.
don't come up with lame excuses.
It isn't an excuse, it's a fact. Dark ryu is an alter ego who has a completely different agenda, power level, and move sets.
Originally posted by Sado22
apparently Guile/Chunli beat him. and THEN Akuma came and killed off an already defeated Bison.
besides what was akuma' business there anyway. he wasn't even IN the tournament. personally that was just weird.
Your going to have to provide a source for that, Because I don't see it that stated anywhere. It just mentions gouki killing bison
Originally posted by Sado22
and yet you had a problem even though i told you about the keyword "specially designed flames" to work on Orochi power. TAHT was intolerable but a boss losing to the hero ON PURPOSE (which is probably the dumbest thing i've ever heard) is perfectly alright.
LOL, wether you find it stupid or not is not my concern. I don't care about your opinions, the point is gill and every other capcom bosses were not jobbed versus Kof bosses. And I never stated orochi is a jobber, him and original zero lost legitimately.
Originally posted by Sado22
of course.
one boss is cheapshotted
the other boss is weakened enough to be defeated and then killed off by akuma
and the third boss loses since he was a nice guy who wnated the hero to win in the end. what bull.
and for the record ONLY Rugal annihilated the whole cast himself. oh and Orochi too. not anyone else.
No, igniz and zero beat the cast as well. I'll take those reasons versus no explanation and bs plot devices that come out of the blue I.E. justice flame which kof does often because they wank kyo and iori so much.
Originally posted by Sado22
who said Ash is weak? Ash is supposed to be pretty damn strong considering he/she/it IS the winner of the previous tournament.
Of course every main character is strong and can beat boss characters for no explanation.
Sado, the problem with your arguments is you ignore the obvious. If kyo and iori could legitimately defeat "God Tier" (And I used that word lightly) bosses. Then they should be in the "God Tier" as well, right. But, it's obvious they are not and here's why.
-If they were GOD tier why would they need plot devices to beat bosses?
-This would definetly be indicated in the story, which it's not.
-What makes thhem God tier, if it's the flames why wasn't nest cartel aware despite duplicating it?
-How the hell does a "God Tier" get captured by nest cartel lackies (Kyo getting captured and clone)
Also, If snk doesn't jobb there bosses then explain to me how igniz could lose like he did?
Answer those questions sado, if you belive those bouts are legit. Because it seems that you do.
First things first. Sado is correct that Ryu cheapshotted Sagat. However, it can be legitimately claimed Satsui no hado ni mezameta Ryu (Ryu with the intent to murder), is in fact responsible.
2nd, I hate Igniz. I really ****ing hate him. He's one of the worst boss characters of all time and IMO, inferior to Omega Rugal. See the Igniz vs. Omega Rugal thread for why. Point is, the whole NESTS saga is ****ed up and shouldn't count for shit.
3rd, his claiming Guile/Chun-li beat Bison isn't too far-fetched. According to canon, their two endings are actually possible. And anyway, Gouki beating Bison isn't a problem, since Gouki had far advanced his skills and Bison had no chance against the Shun Goku satsu.
4th, from the wiki article on Ash Crimson: He could have taken Kyo's powers at any time, but is currently toying with the Kusanagi heir, although Ash remarks that when he faced Iori in XI, Iori's Riot actually decreased Yagami's strength.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
First things first. Sado is correct that Ryu cheapshotted Sagat. However, it can be legitimately claimed Satsui no hado ni mezameta Ryu (Ryu with the intent to murder), is in fact responsible.
So,were both right, everybody wins.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
2nd, I hate Igniz. I really ****ing hate him. He's one of the worst boss characters of all time and IMO, inferior to Omega Rugal. See the Igniz vs. Omega Rugal thread for why. Point is, the whole NESTS saga is ****ed up and shouldn't count for shit.
I hate it too, But, It's not my franchise.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest4th, from the wiki article on Ash Crimson: He could have taken Kyo's powers at any time, but is currently toying with the Kusanagi heir, although Ash remarks that when he faced Iori in XI, Iori's Riot actually decreased Yagami's strength.
And that's the problem where do these strong charaters come from. Every year I'm supposed to belive some diesel character comes and ****s shit up?!
Okay emperor
I'm gonna swallow my massive and apolgize for being a little rude in my previous reply. i read over it and i guess i was being rude. sorry about that.
however i'll reply to you later since i have a midterm in 15 minutes.
First things first. Sado is correct that Ryu cheapshotted Sagat. However, it can be legitimately claimed Satsui no hado ni mezameta Ryu (Ryu with the intent to murder), is in fact responsible.
2nd, I hate Igniz. I really ****ing hate him. He's one of the worst boss characters of all time and IMO, inferior to Omega Rugal. See the Igniz vs. Omega Rugal thread for why. Point is, the whole NESTS saga is ****ed up and shouldn't count for shit.
3rd, his claiming Guile/Chun-li beat Bison isn't too far-fetched. According to canon, their two endings are actually possible. And anyway, Gouki beating Bison isn't a problem, since Gouki had far advanced his skills and Bison had no chance against the Shun Goku satsu
4th, from the wiki article on Ash Crimson: He could have taken Kyo's powers at any time, but is currently toying with the Kusanagi heir, although Ash remarks that when he faced Iori in XI, Iori's Riot actually decreased Yagami's strength.
later peeps.
~Sado
exactly. Guile and Ken are two characters whose endings come DIRECTLY after beating Bison. chunli is also really heavily tied to the ending.
Originally posted by Sado22
Okay emperor
I'm gonna swallow my massive and apolgize for being a little rude in my previous reply. i read over it and i guess i was being rude. sorry about that.
however i'll reply to you later since i have a midterm in 15 minutes.
Originally posted by Sado22
i make it a point to make sure i have enough research to back up what i'm saying (GTFO my back for the ground shaking bit already people!). true it was the darkhadou was techniqueally responsible for tearing open sagat but the fact of the matter is....Ryu GAVE IN to it. in that, i see him equally responsible for letting his weakness of mind get the better of him. In fact, i think he IS fully responsible.
I dunno If I should respond to these post, since you quoted trickster preist. but, what the hell. Give ryu some slack, I mean it was obvious he wasn't that focused and it was his first time encountering satsu no hadou. Ryu in generally is not as focused in the alpha series since he gave into satsu no hadou and psycho power as well.
Originally posted by Sado22
absolutely. NEST saga sucked ass and produced some really lame characters too....K9999, Foxy, Ignitz, the zeroes etc. they all sucked. al lthe bosses sucked too. Save K', Kula and Vanessa I hate most of the new ones....save maybe also Maylee and Angel.
Let's not blame the chaeracters, I liked nest cartel character: Angel,kula,K' prime, Original Zero, Igniz, and more (Though I hated K 9999) snk just was not focused. I actually prefer Maximum Impact's continuty over mainstream KOF.
Originally posted by Sado22
that is exactly what ash is doing. Kof Another day had Ash clearly shrug off Iori saying he isn't even interested in him any more. even throughout the anime's 4th episode, Ash was constantly toying with him....not to mention how he single handedly burnt the whole South Town to crisp and then put out the flames without much ado too. Ash is really, really powerful..........as much as i hate him.
also like it or not, but Ash's saga has the most suspense in it as well. I personalyl can't WAIT for KoFXII to see what actually becomes. KoF XII apparently is supposed to be the last saga of the ash saga.
KOF another day is not canon though. . .
Originally posted by Sado22
exactly. Guile and Ken are two characters whose endings come DIRECTLY after beating Bison. chunli is also really heavily tied to the ending.
True, it's good to make theoris based on endings. But, it's beter to have at least some conformation as well. Like I said , capcom has not announced a winner and stated gouki killed Bison.
Originally posted by Sado22At least there are reasons, instead of simply being over powered by a much weaker character.
SF1
Sagat was dethroned by Ryu via a cheapshot! the only boss to ever be defeated via cheapshot in fighting videogame history.SF2
bison gets new body for himself but conviniently becomes a lot weaker and conviniently loses his powers like teleporation etc to become easy pickings for the likes of Guile/Chunli (two most probable winners of SF2).SF3
gill loses to Alex on purpose.i think its pretty much as bad as SNK.