again this whole Jack being the brightness in her life/the world..her opening shot being, Dull and dead and raining and gloomy, she looks as if she's mourning..Jack introduced in a coffin..
When Jack comes back on the pearl he's surrounded in a burst of light as if to say.."this is what you need in your life"..Its Elizabeth's PoV..she's looking at Jack the god..the good man who came back..the true man he is.
opening and that scene is tied in with the end..and Gibbs says that line "already the world seems a little less bright" without jack the good man in it. It would also suggest that the message is getting directly to Elizabeth. Elizabeth needs Jack in her life, he makes her world brighter. (the good man that is)
You are right, they couldn't be more clearer than that... Liz does indeed need him in her life. What is really bothering me is that they couldn't finish that line, about Liz raising her glass and not drinking it. Why? perhaps because they are hiding something that they don't what to say...They are creating some sort of diversion. I'm telling you's this is a conspiracy. 😄
Apart from Will, his a good man and all, but aside from that-WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JACK SPARROW.
He is a good man despite of everything a pirate, a drunk, a shit, an ass whatever the hell he is branded for he is a hell of a man.
Elizabeth did not cared at all from the beginning.
"Pirate or not this man save my life"
She doesnt care she never cared, she knows deep down that he is a great man and is the light of her dark gloomy days, he is the compass of her heart, he is the one who freed her from that damned corset!!!
Im sorry to sound so pathetic and poetic but Im speaking for all of us-for all J/L shippers out there.
in some countries they already have the DVD available..its released here on Monday
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also I'm getting pissed at this comment:
"Yeah, if you know there’s this chemistry between the two characters, you know you ask yourself the question, what is the one situation where you can actually get a kiss between them that would be legitimate, that would be true to all of the characters and that was the solution. We also knew it was a very tough thing to do – name a movie in which one of the hero’s kills the other to save somebody else, its not one of those things that happens a lot. "
that is the biggest load of shit I have heard in my entire life..
its never impossible to have a character fall in love with another man whilst they are with someone else in a story. They could have EASILY written it so Elizabeth kissed Jack and it not been a life or death situation..they could EASILY have written a love story building to a kiss like that and people WOULD accept it and believe it ,if it was handled well of course
I mean for gods sake.. MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS A LOVE STORY EVEN WHEN IT "WASN'T", BECAUSE J/E IS SO NATURAL ON SCREEN.
So according to them the only legitimate way to have a J/E kiss is when its not love but lust and Will is in danger??? BULL SHIT. You could have made it so she was falling in love with Jack in DMC and have it be "legitimate" and you damn well know T&T .We see it ALL THE ****ING TIME with stories of all kinds, Who would have thought Buffy would end up loving Spike judging by how they first met in the series? but they DID and people LOVED IT.
..even since movie 1 they knew they had the potentail to develop J/E into something more..they basically set it up with how they met eachother..
IMO they don't want a J/E thing..they just wanted to rake in all the money they could with J/E chemistry then end it W/E because IMO back then they thought having Jack make a commitment to Elizabeth would be too risky..
damn..I apologize for that outburst..but I think I'm allergic to bull shit..
as A film studies student..I know what would be possible and impossible to develop in a story..and to say that the only legitimate kiss would be one where she kills Jack for Will... is just the biggest, load of tripe I have ever heard in all my time as a film studies student.
nothing is impossible when you want to develop a story a certain way..they are obviously making excuses as to why J/E can never have a kiss and have it be believable to an audience if it was love
I mean it obviously IS a possibility..a pretty believable one too because even when it wasn't their intent with DMC..millions of people thought J/E were heading somewhere and that Elizabeth may be falling in love with him..people BELIEVE its possible even when they seem to be saying its not...
and again..if its only lust then why is she so concerned about his honest nature if they were to ever be together in the future??? How can that be tied in with lust?..lust is physical emotion..not a mental one and she is very concerned that he "mentally" be the right kind of man for her if they were to ever be together in the future...and that whole thing about the "good man" being the thing she wants from jack but doesnt want to want, ties in with when he came back..what she did to him after he came back and also the last scene where they fail to explain what she is feeling...
yes and there was a clear lack of explanation on the end scene..
I think much of it was lust based until that end scene...the one thing Elizabeth would possibly only ever love about Jack..is the good man he is.
the writers also tend to contradict themselves..Terry and Ted both comment on the internet and it contradicts what they have said in the commentary
they are possibly changing what everything "might mean" all the time because they change things in AWE all the time too.or they are trying to throw us off the scent..if this ended J/E...then even if it was "only lust" in DMC it woud make sense that it would evolve into something more in the furure..
yeah I agree with you..
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I think the curiosity scene is actually forshadowing the outcome of AWE..
because they are talking about what the other must do in order for them to be together in the long run..the one thing that might possibly make one love the other in the future..
because she's only physically attracted to him here but she's talking about how he should be if they were to be together as an item..
Well, it's time to admit it....Jack Sparrow was just having a good time flirting around with Liz...and Liz was just using Jack to find Will.....why on earth she would want to find that eunichy pansy is beyond me...especially when the sexiest man in the world is flirting with you....and the way he looks at her just before the kiss...gosh, Johnny D should never have given those actions to Jack...cuz I totally misread them as a man falling in love...and Keira should have never had her character move in for that second almost kiss...cuz it made us think all kinds of things...and Beckett should have never sait that bit about fate interevenes...and Norrington should have never commented on his observations that Liz was daydreaming about Jack....and that dress should have never sunk to the bottom of the ocean...they should have had Will clinging to it for life...