Colossus vs Mr. Fantastic

Originally posted by Soljer
Really? I'd put them around the same strength level.

In pure punching power?

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I wouldn't. 😉

I already conceded that point to Bigbran, friend. You're a little late.

But I'd still put them in the same strength class. 🙂.

EDIT: But I did enjoy seeing the Thing get laid out for a few pages. 😉.

Class 100? Yeah, I'd put them both as Class 100, Namor is just in higher scale of that Class IMO.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Class 100? Yeah, I'd put them both as Class 100, Namor is just in higher scale of that Class IMO.

Class 100 is too vague, I mean more specifically.

I mean, there are tiers of class 100, and though I WOULD put Namor above colossus, I'd say the gap isn't too large.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Class 100? Yeah, I'd put them both as Class 100, Namor is just in higher scale of that Class IMO.

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Yeah, I get what you are saying now. 🙂

Originally posted by Soljer
Too true, though I very much doubt Namor was going all out in that panel.

Also, it's well within Colossus abilities to stomp a mudhole in reed once reed is exhausted. Or out stretch reed, as namor has done, apparently. 🙂.

Originally posted by bigbran
Maybe.
But just because Namor was able to put Reed like that with a punch, doesn't mean Colossus could do the same.

But because Namor who was holding back could do that to reed, means that Colossus NOT holding back could likely do similarly.

And even if he couldn't with a single punch - he can still outlast Reed and deliver hundreds of thousands of blows before tiring, whereas Reed will be worked to exhaustion.

yep

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
i agree with the first part of what you said . . . Reed Could put colossus off long enough to find a weekness and beat him

i dunno if colossus could pull off the taffy machine effect fast enough. . . i think Reed would keep slipping out

Good point... but what if, just for the sake of arguement, Colossus got one good grip on Reed? He starts rolling his arms, doing the Macarena, hand-jive, whatever, he's going to be able to tangle Reed up, as long as he does it fast enough.

Anybody know where Colossus falls in the disco category? Or... at least speed?

Originally posted by Blind
Good point... but what if, just for the sake of arguement, Colossus got one good grip on Reed? He starts rolling his arms, doing the Macarena, hand-jive, whatever, he's going to be able to tangle Reed up, as long as he does it fast enough.

Anybody know where Colossus falls in the disco category? Or... at least speed?

Not precisely, but I am aware that he has a moderate level of super-human speed while armored.

Originally posted by Grimm22
However, this isn't really even a fight, if Reed wants too he can just make himself a big vase and trap Colossus within 😆

Originally posted by Grimm22
Reed has worked in his lab for days and days and days on end... Yeah he isn't losing because of stamina

Originally posted by Blind
Good point... but what if, just for the sake of arguement, Colossus got one good grip on Reed? He starts rolling his arms, doing the Macarena, hand-jive, whatever, he's going to be able to tangle Reed up, as long as he does it fast enough.

Anybody know where Colossus falls in the disco category? Or... at least speed?

😆 well i think (for sake of arguement) he may get the upper hand or lower hand or twisted hand which ever it may be . . . i didn't know Reed could get tangled?

Originally posted by Soljer
But because Namor who was holding back could do that to reed, means that Colossus NOT holding back could likely do similarly.

And even if he couldn't with a single punch - he can still outlast Reed and deliver hundreds of thousands of blows before tiring, whereas Reed will be worked to exhaustion.

I never said who would win, now did I? I was just arguing about the "Namor did it, so Colossus can."

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So he's going to annoy Colossus to death? I spent 36 hours awake in the lab last week writing a dissertation, clearly I have superhuman stamina.

Originally posted by bigbran
Still no proof that Colossus could do what Namor did.

I never said who would win, now did I? I was just arguing about the "Namor did it, so Colossus can." Your like masterbruce, cept on a lower level!!

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I was thinking the exact same thing, Bran. I was about to post "Now all you need to do is train the rest of your body, soul, and mind to the peak, and you can be like Masterbruce too!"

Now that I think about it, the sound of an thunderclap could probably hurt Reed.

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
😆 well i think (for sake of arguement) he may get the upper hand or lower hand or twisted hand which ever it may be . . . i didn't know Reed could get tangled?

I don't see why he couldn't. I mean... it'd be like tying the elastic in your underwear into a knot, right?

Or am I the only one that tries that to prove an arguement in a vs. thread?

Originally posted by Grimm22
He can't suffocate Reed, I don't know how you came to that conclusion

Reed has worked in his lab for days and days and days on end... Yeah he isn't losing because of stamina

Since when the hell does Colossus have Electric or Fire powers?!?! 🤨

(Reed) Working in a lab for days <<<<<<< (Colossus) Fighting for hours and days. 😐

Didn't Spider-Man (back in the day) cause Reed to tie himself in a knot? One that took him a little bit of time to get out of? If I recall correctly, I really remember this happening.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Has reed ever filled someone up from the inside? could be enter into Peter's nose and muck with his brain or is Peter solid metal?

Wouldn't work. Colossus is solid steel when he transforms. He's got nothing for Reed to muck up.