God should speak up for himself

Started by Lord Urizen11 pages

Re: Re: God should speak up for himself

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
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God has shown himself to you just by the fact that you are.

Another Blind Faith argument......NEXT

Re: Re: Re: God should speak up for himself

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Another Blind Faith argument......NEXT

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you just don't get it do you?

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Re: Re: God should speak up for himself

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
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God has shown himself to you just by the fact that you are.

How do you know that the understanding of God that you have is the same as the understanding that anyone else has?

What if God was different to everyone?

What if your understanding was incomplete?

Re: Re: Re: Re: God should speak up for himself

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
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you just don't get it do you?

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Asking me to submit through Blind Faith, or to intentionally apply God to a situation is not what I am looking for.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Why is that so surprising?

IF thats the case, then how do you explain all the ghost sightings around the world? (personally i think they are all BS, but they are still there.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
IF thats the case, then how do you explain all the ghost sightings around the world? (personally i think they are all BS, but they are still there.)
The same as Big Foot, the Lockness Monster and UFO sightings, these are things that people with vivid imaginations or desire to believe in something that is not there. The power of suggestion is very strong and there hasn’t been any proof of the existence of ghosts or the undead roaming the Earth. There are thousands of people out there searching for proof and some devote their lives to it and still nothing has been found.

and is this your personal opinion, or do you consider it fact?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and is this your personal opinion, or do you consider it fact?
Well there hasn’t been any proof, if so then it would have made the front page news “Ghosts Are Real”. I have watch many shows and read a bunch of articles about it and seen not real proof, could I be wrong the answer is yes but until I see some type of evidence I don’t consider it true. Relying on eye witness accounts is very unreliable because people see what they want to see or remember incorrectly.

ok, heres a question.

you dont believe in christ. you die. next thing you know, you are being judged by god. do you repent, or do you stick to your beliefs and risk eternity in hell?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
ok, heres a question.

you dont believe in christ. you die. next thing you know, you are being judged by god. do you repent, or do you stick to your beliefs and risk eternity in hell?

Nobody is dumb enough to not believe what is right in front of them. Bottom line is if you see god you are not atheist anymore.

Also If I die and there is a heaven I’m going there because I have done nothing wrong in my life. All 10 commandments have not been broken hell I’m a better person than most priests.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Nobody is dumb enough to not believe what is right in front of them. Bottom line is if you see god you are not atheist anymore.

Also If I die and there is a heaven I’m going there because I have done nothing wrong in my life. All 10 commandments have not been broken hell I’m a better person than most priests.


so its a win win scenario for you? believe me. if you die a non believer, you are going to hell. you think god is gonna say "oh well, you chose not to acknowledge the sacrifice i made by allowing my son to be killed, but you can come into heaven anyway."
thats very shallow minded and self righteous on your part. you have not sinned once in your life? not at all? must be nice to be perfect.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Nobody is dumb enough to not believe what is right in front of them. Bottom line is if you see god you are not atheist anymore.

Also If I die and there is a heaven I’m going there because I have done nothing wrong in my life. All 10 commandments have not been broken hell I’m a better person than most priests.

Rogue Jedi, he's pretty much right. That was a pretty dumb question.....

Ne ways, I agree with Dirkdirden......GAY sex is fun, and shouldn't be punished 😄

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so its a win win scenario for you? believe me. if you die a non believer, you are going to hell.

Peejayd, how knows the Bible better than you do, already stated that it's untrue. Those who have love in thier hearts, those who are compassionate, and those who are good people will NOT go to Hell, whether they beleive or not.

Only the most evil of people will end up in Hell.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Peejayd, how knows the Bible better than you do, already stated that it's untrue. Those who have love in thier hearts, those who are compassionate, and those who are good people will NOT go to Hell, whether they beleive or not.

Only the most evil of people will end up in Hell.


so if a guy. lets call him jim. dies at 80 myears old as a non believer he can still get to heaven if he was a decent man? this is your theory?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so if a guy. lets call him jim. dies at 80 myears old as a non believer he can still get to heaven if he was a decent man? this is your theory?

Yes, If God is truly all-loving, then God will allow him into Heaven. Assuming that God and Heaven even exist, which they most likely do not.

If that 80 year old man, who was a decent, loving, hard working person, ends up being tortured for ALL Eternity, then there is seriously something wrong and cruel about your God.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so its a win win scenario for you? believe me. if you die a non believer, you are going to hell. you think god is gonna say "oh well, you chose not to acknowledge the sacrifice i made by allowing my son to be killed, but you can come into heaven anyway."
thats very shallow minded and self righteous on your part. you have not sinned once in your life? not at all? must be nice to be perfect.

Yes I have not sinned once in my life.

What about all the people who have different believes other than god are they all going to hell just because they don't believe in god. Or what about all the tribes in Africa that have never even herd of Jesus or the native Americans who believe in mother nature and not Jesus are they all going to hell.

You can not speak for god because you know nothing you are too young and do not posses enough wisdom to even begin to attempt to speak for god. So do not clam to know who is and isn’t going to hell.

thats not how it works. and you say i dont know my religion?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
thats not how it works. and you say i dont know my religion?

Peejayd, another Christian, already proved that this is how it works.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
ok, heres a question.

you dont believe in christ. you die. next thing you know, you are being judged by god. do you repent, or do you stick to your beliefs and risk eternity in hell?

With that anyone would believe. The thing is God is all seeing so he already knows that even before I was born that I would believe what I do so he created me to go to hell, I may have “free will” to make my choices and he doesn’t make them for me but God already know what my choices will be. Now if God is not all seeing and all knowing then right before I die I say that I accept Jesus as my savior and then I’ll seek in, if he is not real then no harm no foul.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
thats not how it works. and you say i dont know my religion?

So are you telling me that God created religion????? NO HE DIDN'T your religion was created by man, more than likely greedy men who used the religion to gain power and prosecute others.