Actually, she did pretty well against WW. But that was high end and not representative of her average. She didn't looked so good against Superman, Orion, Captain Marvel, or Sabbac. Personally, I'd give Namor an even split with WW if she had no lasso. With her lasso, I'd give WW a slight edge over Namor.
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Actually, she did pretty well against WW. But that was high end and not representative of her average. She didn't looked so good against Superman, Orion, Captain Marvel, or Sabbac. Personally, I'd give Namor an even split with WW if she had no lasso. With her lasso, I'd give WW a slight edge over Namor.
wow then you know very little about wonder woman then 馃檮
Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
I'll DL it some time. That sounds high end for her.Um, you realize WHY her power was low there, right? Because they'd been in space for a WEEK. They were moving further from the sun, meaning she had less power to absorb. She was at full power when it was stated that she's nowhere near the translight speeds needed to take them home.
Now then, when has she been stated as able to move light speed?
OTOH, Superman took her blast to no effect, and it barely phased Orion. I put Namor's durability near theirs. Those weren't novas, but she was attacking them all-out. As for Braniac's battleship, we don't know how durable it is as no one else of any great power level tried to break it. In the same story, armored Lex Luthor whupped Starfire. As for her sister, isn't she like the same strength level as Starfire, namely significantly weaker than Namor?
Not seeing it. Namor has a history of fighting foes with similar heat blasts and flight, and he's quite a bit stronger/more durable than Starfire.
Let's get one thing straight at least: the only reason I'm not giving Namor 7-8/10 is because he has a weakness to being dehydrated. I can see her exploiting that for some wins, even though he has a history of dealing with powerful fire-based foes. However, it's obvious that his strength is leagues above Kory's.
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You put Namors durability near supermans 馃槅
seriously 馃槅
please tell me your joking 馃檨
Superman is so more durable then Namor it isn't even funny
Now on to your other illinformed points
1. no one on the outsiders or Teen Titans had been able too take out Braniac's ship. Starfire was the only one who could do it. Also Branica himself wa sko'ed by nova blast
2. blackfire was amped up by Omar Syan before the fight so much so that she was able to take out both sift and Jade and Shift of the Outsiders before falling to Starfire . Blackfire even with Omar Syans power up was in awe of Starfire's nova blast.
3. now on to your points on Supreman and Orion. The two altercations between Starfire and Superman that I can recal is one in teen titans and another in superman/batman.
In the teen titans issue Starfire blasted Superman and he just took it it however Starfire wasobviously not trying to injure him.
Now the Superman Batman issue . Thats just anothe rexample of Jeph Loebs horrible writing He ha d Superman act lik he had never met Starfiree bfore which is not true at all.
now in the jLA Techinis imperative which I assume is the Orion and Starfire fight your taling about it seemed like to me that starfire was matching the astrofforce with her starbolst for a bit and that wasn't even he rmost powerful attack.
Now on the Lex Lutor fight again that was writen by Jeph Loeb however Lex gave Supergirl and superman good fights in that armor also Starfie wa sbale to catch up to supergirl in flight even though Supergirl left a while before Starfire did which speaks voluwms about Starfires folight speed.
I still give Starfire the majority 7-8/10
Originally posted by Devil Lance
馃槅You put Namors durability near supermans 馃槅
seriously 馃槅
please tell me your joking 馃檨
Superman is so more durable then Namor it isn't even funny
Do you have ANY basis for such a statement other than preconceived notions? I'm going by Namor's performances against people such as:
*The Hulk
*Thor
*Iron Man
*The Silver Surfer
*Wonder Man
*Hercules
*The Thing
*Captain Mar-Vell
*War Machine
*Shrugging off The In-Betweener's attack, despite the fact that it KOed She-Hulk
He has been portrayed as an equal to The Hulk ON LAND before. Saying he is nowhere near Superman is to say that Thor is not a peer to Supes.
Originally posted by Devil LanceNow on to your other illinformed points
1. no one on the outsiders or Teen Titans had been able too take out Braniac's ship. Starfire was the only one who could do it. Also Branica himself wa sko'ed by nova blast
No one else of a high power level TRIED to take it out and I don't see any evidence of Braniac being KOed. In fact, Starfire lost to the Braniac that inhabited Indigo's body.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
2. blackfire was amped up by Omar Syan before the fight so much so that she was able to take out both sift and Jade and Shift of the Outsiders before falling to Starfire . Blackfire even with Omar Syans power up was in awe of Starfire's nova blast.
What # and was she portrayed as Starfire's superior HTH?
Originally posted by Devil Lance
3. now on to your points on Supreman and Orion. The two altercations between Starfire and Superman that I can recal is one in teen titans and another in superman/batman.In the teen titans issue Starfire blasted Superman and he just took it it however Starfire wasobviously not trying to injure him.
Are you serious? She was blaming him for Donna's death and trying to make him feel her pain. It had no effect on him.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now the Superman Batman issue . Thats just anothe rexample of Jeph Loebs horrible writing He ha d Superman act lik he had never met Starfiree bfore which is not true at all.
Um, whatever. It's completely consistent with like every other time she's blasted a top tier.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
now in the jLA Techinis imperative which I assume is the Orion and Starfire fight your taling about it seemed like to me that starfire was matching the astrofforce with her starbolst for a bit and that wasn't even he rmost powerful attack.
WTF are you talking about? He was just standing there taking her blast, then the second he unleashed the Astro-Force, he effortlessly overpowered and KOed her. She doesn't match, withstand, or remain conscious against the Astro-Force for even a single panel. Orion, OTOH, is unharmed and talking as he is engulfed by her blast.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now on the Lex Lutor fight again that was writen by Jeph Loeb however
The first one, yeah. Lex beating her ass in the Insiders arc was Geoff Johns, however. In fact, he took her blast to no effect. Then in the next issue of the arc, Superboy was tearing Lex's armor apart.
Originally posted by Devil LanceLex gave Supergirl and superman good fights in that armor also Starfie wa sbale to catch up to supergirl in flight even though Supergirl left a while before Starfire did which speaks voluwms about Starfires folight speed.
Starfire also stated she may break her hand hitting Supergirl.
Originally posted by Devil LanceI still give Starfire the majority 7-8/10 [/B]
And I still don't.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Diana was trying to talk down an enraged Starfire.Its like me dealing with any angry younger cousin. I could onepunch the little bastard, but since i care about her, i'll simply let her vent, and wait it out.
Thats pretty much all Wonder Woman did.
I disagree. They looked to me to be going at each other with similar intensity. It was just a high end Starfire showing/low end WW showing. Geoff Johns isn't the most consistent guy when it comes to power levels.
I know plenty about WW, for the record. I'd go so far as to says that high-end Namor is stronger than high-end WW. He's been portrayed as literally equal to The Hulk on land, and slugged evenly with Hercules. WW's best showings against top tiers involve outskilling them, not trading blows. If you want to go into low showings ... Well, I can do that too. On average Namor's equal to WW in strength.
I think people just underrate Namor because they ignorantly see him as basically Aquaman or something.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
The only thing close between these two would be durability. WW has him bested in everthing.I can't believe you said that.
What? Namor is MORE durable than WW, IMO. She's been stunned by a single top tier hit lots of times, and is generally easier to hurt than he is by lower tiers. Their strength is even, while she's more skilled.
Are you guys going to counter the numerous fights I've mentioned regarding Namor vs. Marvel's top tier (including Hulk, Thor, Hercules, etc.) which can be seen in DarK Crawler's respect thread, or do you plan to just keep saying "OMG! I can't belive yu rank him there! That's soooo stoopid!!!1" as if that's a valid counter ...?
Originally posted by Jimmy-ChanNo, I am not gonna waste my time. If you think WW and Namors strength is equal well....I wish you luck with that.
Are you guys going to counter the numerous fights I've mentioned regarding Namor vs. Marvel's top tier (including Hulk, Thor, Hercules, etc.) which can be seen in DarK Crawler's respect thread, or do you plan to just keep saying "OMG! I can't belive yu rank him there! That's soooo stoopid!!!1" as if that's a valid counter ...?
Namor has a winning record against enraged Hulks.
Has broken bands that iirc, even the Hulk wasn't able to bust.
Taken Thor and looked evenish.
Has oneshotted Beta Ray Bill.
Namor imo, has better blunt force durability. WW handles heat better than him, naturally.
Her speed is better as well.
But he has superspeed handmovement, and great skill.
He's even or stronger than her, has better durability that counts here, but has less speed than her.
Her skill is greater than his, but her gear is what puts her over the top, imo.
Namor has his own feats. They just aren't as well known as the more popular characters.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
No, I am not gonna waste my time. If you think WW and Namors strength is equal well....I wish you luck with that.
Sure. You clearly have little knowledge of Namor's track record or are in outright denial of it, however. If you refuse to acknowledge continuity and simply claim Namor is at whatever level you want him to be at, I don't see the point in even posting in threads involving him. My opinions are based on Namor's actual showings. If someone wants to prove me wrong, we can compare battle feats. Given that I've seen virtually all of WW and Namor's notable fights, I'm more than prepared to back up my opinion with a ton of continuity.
Originally posted by Jimmy-ChanWW helps pull the Moon and Namor braces a huge ship(underwater) for their best feats. WW lifts huge mountain ranges and Namor has a hard time flying with a huge boat anchor for mid-level feats.
Sure. You clearly have little knowledge of Namor's track record or are in outright denial of it, however. If you refuse to acknowledge continuity and simply claim Namor is at whatever level you want him to be at, I don't see the point in even posting in threads involving him. My opinions are based on Namor's actual showings. If someone wants to prove me wrong, we can compare battle feats. Given that I've seen virtually all of WW and Namor's notable fights, I'm more than prepared to back up my opinion with a ton of continuity.
Who is stronger?