Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No, men are not born rapists. And ho are you going to compare female rapists when less than 2% are females, and an overwhelming majority of those are captured for child molestation, or child sexual abuse.Second, the link you posted shows an absolute ignorance of rape. It was written by a pumpped up prick with absolutey no knowledge of the trends of rape reporting.
As for ''deserved'' rape - there is no such thing, HOWEVER, I will say that women who think they can get drunk, fall all over the place go with all knds of dodgy guys, night after night, are going to get themselves in trouble.
The idea of women sexual liberation does not equal reckless behaviour and stupidity.
How do you know female rapists make up only 2%? For all you could know it could be closer to 20% for all the evidence you have given. You ahve just been blinded by the subtle socialisation into thinking that women = victims and men = oppressors in all situations - the idea that males could be victims repulses you. And I would love to hear your evidence against what Angry Harry [the one you called a prick] said in his article
Originally posted by Akira99
How do you know female rapists make up only 2%? For all you could know it could be closer to 20% for all the evidence you have given. You ahve just been blinded by the subtle socialisation into thinking that women = victims and men = oppressors in all situations - the idea that males could be victims repulses you. And I would love to hear your evidence against what Angry Harry [the one you called a prick] said in his article
I really don't think lil showed any blindness in that post. In fact, she provided stats that I am sure she's checked out. She's not one for making up numbers to substantiate her argument.
You've made a lot of assumptions about lil based on no evidence there.
Originally posted by Leo.M
What do you think? Should they be castrated?I think convicted rapist should be castrated. Not all convicted rapist spend their rest of their lives in jail. Some get out at an able enough age to do it again.
Sorry Leo, I usually like all your ideas, but what if its a False conviction? Say "Oh Shit, Sorry let us go gather up your Balls and Penis for you, IT might fit back on."
I lol'd seeing this thread.
Originally posted by Syren
I really don't think lil showed any blindness in that post. In fact, she provided stats that I am sure she's checked out. She's not one for making up numbers to substantiate her argument.
I could say the same about the stats in that article by Angry Harry I provided. I would like to see evidence please
And while the subject of female sexual liberation was mentioned I still notice that it is MEN who still have to deal with approaching and risking rejection from women.
This is the article for those who are too lazy to go to the link:
Rape Baloney
The evidence that I have seen shows that most allegations of rape made to the police are false.
The 'research' that purports to show otherwise is mostly bogus.
Indeed, the very fact that the definition of 'rape' is completely fudged in most of the 'research' in this area makes it impossible to evaluate it objectively.
However, if it is true that the vast majority of real rapes goes unreported (which is the claim made by most rape 'researchers'😉 and it is also true that the vast majority of rape allegations made to the police are true (which is another claim made by most rape 'researchers'😉 then it follows logically that men are raping women many times more often than are women making false allegations about such things.
But this is just not credible given that the evidence shows quite clearly that many women will make such allegations for the most trivial of reasons e.g. in order to gain sympathy. And if they will allege rape simply in order to gain sympathy, then the mind boggles at how many women must be making false allegations of rape for more 'urgent' reasons.
Indeed, it was only a few weeks ago that a homeless man was released following eight months in prison because three young women had accused him of sexually-assaulting them simply in order to explain why they were late for class!
Three of them!
And the feminist-inspired myth that the probability of an 'average' woman making a false accusation of rape is far, far less than the probability of an 'average' man actually raping a woman is ridiculous.
Please bear with me for a moment.
Much of the rape research suggests that the majority of real rapes goes unreported. In fact, the figures commonly bandied about suggest that only about one-quarter of real rapes are reported to the police.
Now, imagine a town of 100 men and 100 women. And let us assume for the moment that the likelihood of a man committing a rape is exactly the same as the likelihood of a woman making a false allegation of rape.
Now, imagine that in this town four men commit a rape one evening.
Well, the evidence suggests that only one of the raped women (one-quarter of them) will actually report the matter to the police.
Now, since we are assuming that the likelihood of a rape is the same as the likelihood of a false allegation of rape, then it follows that since four men committed a rape, then four women will actually make a false allegation about rape.
And so five allegations of rape will be made to the police.
But only one of them will be true.
In other words, 80% of the allegations are false.
And please remember that this is assuming that men are just as likely to rape women as women are to make false allegations about rape - something which, quite frankly, is preposterous.
And the only way in which it is possible for the vast majority of rape allegations to be true while, at the same time, the vast majority of real rapes goes unreported, is for men to be many times more likely to rape women than are women likely to make false allegations about rape.
And this notion is even more preposterous.
Furthermore, there is surely very little doubt that when intimates are having serious relationship problems - and it is under these circumstances that most rape allegations are made - women are far more likely to lie and make wild exaggerations of rape than are men in these situations likely to rape them.
And yet, somehow, we are expected to believe that some 80% of rape allegations are true, and that some 75% of rapes go unreported. But if this were true, then it would follow that men are sixteen times more likely to rape a woman than is a woman likely to make a false allegation of rape.
And, further, this is supposed to be true despite the fact that we know that some women make false allegations of rape for the most trivial of reasons and that many women often have a great deal to gain by making false allegations of rape; whereas, on the other hand, men have a great deal to lose by committing an act of rape.
Furthermore, women are encouraged daily by the media to make allegations of 'abuse'.
All in all, therefore, the likelihood is very high that women are far more likely to make false allegations than are men likely to commit acts of rape.
And if this is the case - which seems HIGHLY likely - then even the high figure of 80% for false allegations (as in our town of 100 men and 100 women - where the probabilities of real rapes and false allegations are equal) is going to be an underestimate of the proportion of the allegations that are false.
In other words, the likelihood is that more than 80% of rape allegations made to the police are false.
And, indeed, the objective evidence is consistent with this notion. For example, in the UK, for every 100 allegations of rape made to the police, only 6 result in convictions.
Needless to say, however, the feminists, the politically correct, the whole of the abuse industry and, of course, women themselves, have huge vested interests in covering up the truth about this matter.
They all gain enormous rewards by demonising men.
And their overall message is this.
Even though women gain numerous advantages from alleging rape, and even though we know that millions of women behave 'irrationally' when they are 'emotional', and despite the fact that we know that women will even make such allegations for the most selfish and trivial of reasons, men are so awful and women are so innocent that the average male is still sixteen times more likely to rape a woman than is an average female likely to make a false allegation!
And they want to see many more convictions.
And, typically, as the general public learns what devious and dishonest propaganda these groups promote, they will simply respond by jiggling around with all their statistics in order to come up with something more 'credible'.
This is how their hateful game is normally played.
And if you think that this is exaggerating, perhaps you should keep asking yourself this question.
How is it that all the lofty professors at the universities, and the feminists, and the police, and all the experts in the government concerned with matters of crime and abuse, and those who write in the media, etc etc, have failed even to mention to the public that the vast majority of rape allegations must surely be false?
Well. The answer is that the forces that suppress the truth about the rape figures must truly be massive.
And these massive forces are used not only to hoodwink the public about the rape figures - and, indeed, about most of the other figures to do with matters of 'abuse' - they are also used as some of kind of justification to demonise men, to hurt them, to discriminate against them, to push them through outrageously unjust legal processes which have been corrupted through and through, and to make it possible for women to destroy their lives completely for no other reason than that they wish to.
One example of the deceptions commonly employed when it comes to the figures for 'rape' that are touted by most western governments is their purposeful inflation by something of the order of 2000%. This is done by including all allegations of rape in the rape figures - despite the fact that the vast majority of these allegations will be judged to be false. And these figures are then compounded even further by a factor of anywhere between 4 and 10 in order to account for the number of women who, allegedly, failed to report their rapes.
And what must surely be one of the most unconscionable and most malicious of deceits perpetrated by western governments, feminists and women's groups during the past two decades is their fairly-well hidden assumption - exhibited in all their figures and all their public rhetoric - that unproved allegations of rape are, in fact, real rapes!
In the UK, for example, only some 5% of allegations result in convictions. In other words, when the police and the lawyers and the juries have done all the investigating that they possibly can, the result is that some 95% of cases are judged NOT GUILTY or NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE.
So where, exactly, is the valid evidence to suggest that these 95% of women have, in fact, been raped?
Well, there is no such evidence! These 'rapes' are simply manufactured out of very thin air by various groups that, in essence, promote male hatred in order to reap some kind of benefit for themselves.
Finally, please note that (given the commonly-accepted preponderance of unreported rapes; i.e. 3 out of 4) even if men were four times as likely to rape women as women were to make false allegations of rape, it would still be the case that 50% of rape allegations made to the police would be false.
(Also see my piece entitled Most Rape Allegations Are False.)
The Rape Crisis Federation in the UK estimates that 91% of women tell no-one that they have been raped. (This is what the Solicitor General, Harriet Harman, claims.) There is no valid evidence for this anywhere.
However, if this is true, and if it is also true that 80% of rape allegations are true, then it follows that the average man is 40 times more likely to commit a rape than is an average woman likely to lie or to exaggerate about a rape.
And, indeed, if the typical feminist nonsense espoused by most feminists in American Women Studies courses is to be believed; viz; that only 2% of rape claims are false, and that 9 out of 10 victims do not report their rapes, then it follows that men are 490 times more likely to commit an actual rape than is a woman likely to make a false claim.
Just one more example of how the 'abuse' figures are cooked ...
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Some 5% of women have Borderline Personality Disorder or something close to it. Features of this include the habitual making of false accusations of some kind of 'abuse' - often in order to seek some kind of revenge. For women with BDP, seeing oneself as a victim of someone else's actions is almost a permanent state of being. And given that some 1 million women in the UK and 5 million women in the USA have this condition, the various allegations of 'abuse' that are made every year - sex assault, domestic violence etc - are, undoubtedly, mostly the result of these women attempting to portray themselves as victims.
Furthermore, if you can believe it, the various 'data' collected on the basis of the testimony of this relatively small group of dysfunctional women is then multiplied by incompetent academics and various government departments in order to figure out what is going on in the rest of society!
Thus, and for example, if 30% of women claim to be 'violated' every year, and 5% of women are 'dysfunctional', then these latter women would not account for much of the data.
But if, as appears to be the case, only 1% or 2% of women claim to be 'violated' every year, and 5% of women are 'dysfunctional', then the likelihood is that these 'dysfunctional' women are the ones making nearly all of the claims!
As such, 'professionals' who extrapolate the evidence gleaned from the collective testimony of these women to the rest of society are either charlatans or incompetent.
Mostly, one discovers that they are both.
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"MOST of the women arriving at the refuge centres were MORE violent, even toward their children, than were the men they were supposedly escaping from." Erin Pizzey - the very founder of the refuge movement for battered women in the UK
If you really want to see how western governments and incompetent and/or dishonest academics produce bogus research in order to fuel male hatred with phony statistics on rape and sex-assault, then please take some 15 minutes or so to read carefully this piece entitled The Home Office Caught Stirring Up Hatred - Again! I think you will be appalled at the government's blatant dishonesty and by the manner in which it attempts to inflate the rape figures by something like 2000%.
And in the piece Ignoring Relationships In Rape you can see how western governments give credence to rape research that is based almost wholly on the testimony of a small selected group of abnormal women who are likely to be imbued with a particular antipathy towards men.