What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

Started by ThePittman88 pages

Originally posted by Starhawk
No, the type of people I will have to sway is a comission of judges known as the Supreme Court of Canada.

You think in terms of emotion and humanitarian concern. They think in terms of law and concern for protecting society. Something tells me they will be a more receptive crowd and I will have more support from politicains. Open Debate isn't the only way to get laws changed.

I don’t know how laws are passed in Canada or how the legal system works but looking at what you have provided for evidence and proof to back up you statements I can’t see any judge passing it into law. Even though they follow the law they are still influenced and take into account public opinion, however you claim that I’m thinking with my emotions is irrelevant because one everyone does and you are doing it more than me. You are looking for the revenge factor as a form of punishment and determent however I’m not, I’m looking at what past events and studies have shown. Would I love to put a child molester to death, hell yes but it doesn’t do anything other than making me and the surviving victims fell better.

Something tells me the chances of you convincing the Supreme Court of Canada to reinstate the death penalty, when you can't even put together a cohesive argument for it on a movie forum, are slim.

It's not an effective deterrent.

Murdering is worse.

I'd rather be a pedophile than a murderer.

(Never thought I'd say that before)

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by InnerRise
Murdering is worse.

I'd rather be a pedophile than a murderer.

(Never thought I'd say that before)

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Wow just Wow... 😘

Judges in Canada aren't elected, they don't care about public opinion.

And you will never be able to sway some people who already have their minds made up.

Trust me I'm not worried about my chances here, there's lots of forums and people who support the idea and even more that are getting tired of these monsters in our society.

No punishment is an effective deterent right now because most criminals don't think they are getting caught and others act out of extreme emotion and don't stop to think about it. It's not just about deterence.

Originally posted by chris_64256
Wow just Wow... 😘
Nevermind!!!! shockno

I think I'd rather be a murderer then. ✅

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Starhawk
Judges in Canada aren't elected, they don't care about public opinion.

And you will never be able to sway some people who already have their minds made up.

Trust me I'm not worried about my chances here, there's lots of forums and people who support the idea and even more that are getting tired of these monsters in our society.

No punishment is an effective deterent right now because most criminals don't think they are getting caught and others act out of extreme emotion and don't stop to think about it. It's not just about deterence.

Revenge is not justice. You seem far too concerned with the former, and too nonchalant about the latter. I pity the legal system that admits you to the bar.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Judges in Canada aren't elected, they don't care about public opinion.

And you will never be able to sway some people who already have their minds made up.

Trust me I'm not worried about my chances here, there's lots of forums and people who support the idea and even more that are getting tired of these monsters in our society.

No punishment is an effective deterent right now because most criminals don't think they are getting caught and others act out of extreme emotion and don't stop to think about it. It's not just about deterence.

Are there people that would support your idea, of course but does that mean it right by what you are claiming? Everything that you have said is for the reason of deterring the crime if it is not then it is for revenge, plan and simple.

If you read over this thread I've presented more then one reason for it.

Actually, and I'm really not kidding here, One of the first things you learn in Law School is that the legal system has nothing to do with Justice.

The legal system is about trying to maintian order and protect society from harm.

Originally posted by Starhawk
If you read over this thread I've presented more then one reason for it.

Actually, and I'm really not kidding here, One of the first things you learn in Law School is that the legal system has nothing to do with Justice.

The legal system is about trying to maintian order and protect society from harm.

I have read over your posts and you have provided nothing other than your opinion why it would deter sex crimes or 1st degree murders. I know that law and justice is not the same thing but what you are seeking is justice/revenge and capital punishment has never been proven to deter these types of crimes.

One of the first things anyone can learn in most basic schooling is that the role of the judiciary is not to enact law, but to administer it. Thus, humoring your flight of fancy, what exactly do you aim to achieve by arguing towards your Supreme Court to reinstate the death penalty, when the legislature abolished the death penalty in your country 30 years ago?

Because first I would get the legislature to pass a motion to re-instate it and then go to the Supreme Court if someone tries to strike it down. Trust me, In my university there's allto of us disscussing how to go abotu doing this, we know how hard it's going to be and we've thought of everything.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Because first I would get the legislature to pass a motion to re-instate it and then go to the Supreme Court if someone tries to strike it down. Trust me, In my university there's allto of us disscussing how to go abotu doing this, we know how hard it's going to be and we've thought of everything.
You'll snap your fingers and Canadian parliament will jump? Okay...

Originally posted by InnerRise
Murdering is worse.

I'd rather be a pedophile than a murderer.

(Never thought I'd say that before)

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

What about a murdering peadophile ?

Originally posted by Starhawk
Because first I would get the legislature to pass a motion to re-instate it and then go to the Supreme Court if someone tries to strike it down. Trust me, In my university there's allto of us disscussing how to go abotu doing this, we know how hard it's going to be and we've thought of everything.
[sarcasm]It really sounds like you have thought of everything[/sarcasm]

Just move to America, man. We're all about petty vengeance here.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You'll snap your fingers and Canadian parliament will jump? Okay...

No, there is plenty of ways to get a 'yes' vote from a politicain. And many lawyers go on to become politicans themselves. I assure you this isn't an idle thougt of ours we know what we're up agaisnt on this and we know how to get this done.

Forgive me if I scoff, and perhaps chortle. Yes I think a chortle is in order.

Say what you wish, people are getting sick and tired of these things getting free and attacking other children. I really don't think it will be as hard as you think to drum up support for this.

And politicains are that hard to convince, give them something they want and the words "yes" just roll off their tounges.

and now the topic is starhawks political ambitions and rantings.

did he mention he's a law student?