What's worse: Pedophiles or Murderers?

Originally posted by PVS
and now the topic is starhawks political ambitions and rantings.

did he mention he's a law student?

Yes I believe I did. Say what you wish, we will get this done.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Say what you wish, people are getting sick and tired of these things getting free and attacking other children. I really don't think it will be as hard as you think to drum up support for this.

And politicains are that hard to convince, give them something they want and the words "yes" just roll off their tounges.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes I believe I did. Say what you wish, we will get this done.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Yes I believe I did. Say what you wish, we will get this done.

Ewww....Vengeance is so nauseating 😘

Originally posted by ThePittman
However you will be getting into the VERY hot topic of capital punishment and many politicians try and stay away from that topic like the plague.

I just hope they are not relying on you to debate this because you haven’t done a great job here 😉

Actually, In the last federal election up here get tough on cirme as a hot button issue.

In Canada right now we have what is called a Minority Government, meaning no party has enough elected members to pass their legisation. And one of the bills that all the partys have pretty much agree to let through is a bill getting tougher on criminals and stricter sentences for them.

The worse and more frequent these criminals become, the easier it is to get politicans and the public on to the idea of getting rid of them.

Originally posted by Starhawk
The worse and more frequent these criminals become, the easier it is to get politicans and the public on to the idea of getting rid of them.

You mean killing them.....right ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You mean killing them.....right ?

Executing.

I see what Starhawk means, though. I mean, America has the death penalty for murder, whereas Canada doesn't, and our homicide rate is ... uh ... over three times as high as Canada's. Well, you know, Americans are a bunch of thugs. Not a fair comparrison. A better comparison would be to consider Canada's homicide rate. Canada foolishly abolished the death penalty, and their homicide rate ... dropped. Well, uh...

But that doesn't mean anything! Let's compare murder rates between states with the death penalty and states without the death penalty! That will clearly show that ... that states with the death penalty have had higher muder rates then states without it every single year since 1990, and since before then, as far as I know. Not a small difference, either--practically 40% more murders.

Okay, let's try something different. I want you to clap your hands three times and repeat after me: "I believe in the death penalty as an effective deterant. I believe..."

As I said it's not only about deterence and you only have the Death Penalty in a small handful of states.

First of all, I know it's not about deterence. It's mainly about your petty vengeance fantasies, but I wanted to give you the benefit of a doubt.

Second of all, we have the death penalty in a vast majority of our states: Thirty-eight out of fifty. I know your arguments aren't only about facts, but try to do better.

Originally posted by Starhawk
As I said it's not only about deterence and you only have the Death Penalty in a small handful of states.

but dude....he's like....totally a law student...so you lose by default

He does seem to bring that up more often then is absolutely necessary, doesn't he?

Originally posted by ThePittman
However you argument is that it will keep them from committing the crimes again and as Gregory said it doesn’t do that either so what is you next point?

They are dead at that point, how can they commit the crimes again?

but I've been in trouble with the law so I know lots about it 😛

Originally posted by ThePittman
but I've been in trouble with the law so I know lots about it 😛

I see a disturbing lack of sympathy on this thread for the victims and lack of concern for the future victims of repeat offenders.

Try looking into the eyes of a child violated by one of these things.

Try looking at the pain and suffering of the families of murder victims.

They are the ones I care about, not the monsters that caused their suffering.

Originally posted by Starhawk
They are dead at that point, how can they commit the crimes again?

if they are locked up, how can they commit the crime again?

"ZOMG TAXES!!!!!!!", right?

Originally posted by Starhawk
They are dead at that point, how can they commit the crimes again?

Originally posted by Starhawk
I see a disturbing lack of sympathy on this thread for the victims and lack of concern for the future victims of repeat offenders.

nopity

Originally posted by Starhawk
Try looking into the eyes of a child violated by one of these things.

screw em

Originally posted by Starhawk
Try looking at the pain and suffering of the families of murder victims..

screw em

Originally posted by Starhawk
They are the ones I care about, not the monsters that caused their suffering.

no, all you care about is browbeating about it on a movie forum so you can feel better than everyone else....and you're a law student. you've already made a joke of this thread, and now you think you're going to forbid people from joking?

Originally posted by PVS
if they are locked up, how can they commit the crime again?

"ZOMG TAXES!!!!!!!", right?

It's called Parole. And our prisons are over-crowded as it is. These things need to be put down like the wild animals they are.

Originally posted by Starhawk
I see a disturbing lack of sympathy on this thread for the victims and lack of concern for the future victims of repeat offenders.

Try looking into the eyes of a child violated by one of these things.

Try looking at the pain and suffering of the families of murder victims.

They are the ones I care about, not the monsters that caused their suffering.