I'm perfectly sympathetic towards victims of child-mollestation, rape, murder ... any violent crime, really.
I also don't think people should be executed for commiting them. What you really meant, Starhawk, is "I see a disturbing number of people who react to things different from me. This can only mean they support child-rapists!" And you're not going to make friends with that attitude. You're not going to win any arguments, either.
Originally posted by ThePittman
It has nothing to do with a lack of sympathy at all or seeing through the eyes of the victim, you have already stated that this is law and not justice so you are already contradicting yourself. Are both crimes horrible and cause so much pain and suffering the answer is yes but the punishment should also match the crime. I would rather have the person that raped my child or killed my child live the rest of their life in prison then having the quick out of death, I would relish in the fact that they have to live out the rest of their life without the freedom of doing what they wanted and living in the hell hole of prison.
Our prisons are so cosy now cause of all the misguided advocates that it's bearly a punishment at all.
And i would feel better knowing they are dead and unable to enjoy life on ANY level.
Originally posted by Starhawk
You are filth
i dont care what you think of me, and just to spite you i will not tell if im serious or not.
your little rants and speeches filled with browbeating, slander, and finger pointing have no place in this or any discussion.
so, know that i dont care what you think, put it in your pipe, smoke it, and choke on it for all i care.
when you are ready to weigh facts and evidence and debate them intelligently, i will reciprocate. until then you are a joke to me and so i shall point and laugh. *points* hahahahaah
p.s. i eat babies
Originally posted by PVS
i dont care what you think of me, and just to spite you i will not tell if im serious or not.you're little rants and speeches filled with browbeating, slander, and finger pointing have no place in this or any discussion.
so, know that i dont care what you think, put it in your pipe, smoke it, and choke on it for all i care.when you are ready to weigh facts and evidence and debate them intelligently, i will reciprocate. until then you are a joke to me and so i shall point and laugh. *points* hahahahaah
p.s. i eat babies
You mean when i see things your way? and start feeling bad for these things? LOL I just don't see that happening.
I'm going to do everything I can in my legal or political career to see these things put to death like they deserve and prevent them from repeat offending.
And one thing I love about living in Canada, a group like your NAMBLA would be arrested up here.
Originally posted by StarhawkHowever that is your view and your opinion, yet many criminals kill themselves so that they don’t have to go to prison and others don’t so to each it depends on what they value. However for any maximum security prison it is not a comfy life at all, for lesser crimes it is a different story all together and depends from state to state, I don’t know what the life style is in Canada but the US prisons are a hell hole.
Our prisons are so cosy now cause of all the misguided advocates that it's bearly a punishment at all.And i would feel better knowing they are dead and unable to enjoy life on ANY level.
Originally posted by ThePittman
However that is your view and your opinion, yet many criminals kill themselves so that they don’t have to go to prison and others don’t so to each it depends on what they value. However for any maximum security prison it is not a comfy life at all, for lesser crimes it is a different story all together and depends from state to state, I don’t know what the life style is in Canada but the US prisons are a hell hole.
Up here they get Cable, Internet, books. In class we watched a video about prison reform and you;d be amazed what they get to have.
Originally posted by StarhawkWell that sounds more like a better cause is to make prison more of a punishment then trying to reform. That is a big debate in the US where it is more of a punishment then reform.
Up here they get Cable, Internet, books. In class we watched a video about prison reform and you;d be amazed what they get to have.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Well that sounds more like a better cause is to make prison more of a punishment then trying to reform. That is a big debate in the US where it is more of a punishment then reform.
As it should be, up here in cases of violence and especially sexual crime we have a staggering amount of repeat offenders. So you can see how useless that whole reform thing is.
Originally posted by StarhawkHowever this is a problem with your prison system, if you are worried about repeat offenders and deterrents this is what you need to work on, capital punishment won’t do a damn thing unless you plan on killing everyone.
As it should be, up here in cases of violence and especially sexual crime we have a staggering amount of repeat offenders. So you can see how useless that whole reform thing is.
Originally posted by ThePittman
However this is a problem with your prison system, if you are worried about repeat offenders and deterrents this is what you need to work on, capital punishment won’t do a damn thing unless you plan on killing everyone.
It's not only about deterence. And if they are dead, how can they repeat offend?
Originally posted by Starhawk
You are filth for saying that. Even if it is a joke (and I hope to God it is.)
See, this is exactly what I'm talkng about. When you're first reaction to "The system is flawed" is, "Well if we killed everybody, it wouldn't be a problem," you are in no shape to cast stones.
(How do you make a little girl cry twice?)
Originally posted by ThePittman
Well if your justice system didn’t let them out then you wouldn’t have this problem.
Our prisons are over crowded as it is.
And there is a difference in what he said and my point of view, he makes what I deeply hope was a joke (And not serious)about the suffering of victims of child sexual assult and the families of murder victims and I suggest putting the criminal to death.
And no I do not care at all about the Criminals in these cases. I don't even feel pity for them.
Originally posted by StarhawkSo instead of fixing an existing problem you want to create another by “thinning” out the population? That seems so logical to me, why not kill everyone so you won’t have any crowding at all?
Our prisons are over crowded as it is.And there is a difference in what he said and my point of view, he makes what I deeply hope was a joke (And not serious)about the suffering of victims of child sexual assult and the families of murder victims and I suggest putting the criminal to death.
And no I do not care at all about the Criminals in these cases. I don't even feel pity for them.