Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Most people have said murder is worse. Bardock's German, he doesn't count as people.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If the war in Iraq was filled with mass molestation and zero killing, would people be saying it's worse than it is now?No death toll, but all molestation.
-AC
Probably. People get weird about molestation. And what a freaking sick place would that be.
whats worse? someone who has a psychological disorder in which they are sexually attracted to children....or someone who murders people? is that a serious question?
ok, ill load it for you: whats worse? someone who actively rapes children or someone who murders people? again, is that a serious question?
IMO Pedophiles are the worst, for one the damage that is cause by what they do has life long implications on the child and normally cause a cycle of abuse in the future. Also with this mentally it is pretty much non-curable and they have a high degree of committing this crime again with greater harm. Murders on the other hand either do this out of some type of revenge or extreme hatred and rarely keep killing after caught. Their aggression is normally directed at certain individuals and stops there with exceptions. With murders their normally only around 1 to 3 killings per person and with pedophiles they can and normally exceed this amount which also has been show that their survivors either commit the same types of crimes, kill them selves or others so this breads back into the killing population.
Originally posted by PVSNot sure if you are referring to me but what is worse a quick death and the pain is over or leaving the rest of you life with the knowledge of what happened to you? What the question was is what is worse and with one you kill some one and this normally doesn’t cause more killings and normally stops at 1 or two people. With pedos the original crime is not as bad a killing someone but this can lead to them killing themselves so in turn you “did” kill them or that they go out and commit the same crime possibly killing their victim as well.
ah the good ol' "lets declare that a metaphorical death is the same as death"
Originally posted by ThePittman
Not sure if you are referring to me but what is worse a quick death and the pain is over or leaving the rest of you life with the knowledge of what happened to you?
living and breathing with bad memories as opposed to rotting in the dirt and being consumed by worms, ceasing to be? you want me to answer that? really?
Originally posted by PVSI think you are trying to down play this, would you rather be tortured for the rest of your life or be put out of your misery and be killed? The problem that I see is the pedos cause more harm then simply killing someone, plus when is having sex with a child ever good? Killing can be bad to good like protecting others or yourself, having sex with children is only for self gratification and leads to other problems as I have said.
living and breathing with bad memories as opposed to rotting in the dirt and being consumed by worms, ceasing to be? you want me to answer that? really?
Example: Wife kills husband because of life long abuse.
Example: A Man rape 13 year old, 13 year old grows up and does this to 5 different kids.
One kid kills themselves, another kid grows up and does this to 5 other kids, another takes years and years to get over this but still has emotional problems and doesn’t live a full and healthy life, another does this to another kid but doesn’t want to be caught so they kill that kid. Do you see a pattern in this?
no, i just think you're trying to downplay being DEAD. 🙄
also, please dont load the question with anecdotal hypothetical evidence. its pointless. ill prove it:
example one: wife hires a hitman to kill her faithful and loyal husband, just to cash in on his insurance
example two: 20 year old guy labled a peadophile and rapist for having consentual sex with a 17 year old.
see? pointless
On a similar note...I'd just like to say that rapists and murderers are among the lowest scum this Earth has ever seen.
That being said, you know how they bring out the prisoners in their orange jump suits about halfway through traffic court for their sentencing?
Well, one time was in traffic court and here come the jump suit guys. They went through the first couple of guys and the judge said something like, "Antonio Roberts...first degree murder," "Ben Smith...second degree murder," and so on, and the most anyone in the audience did was yawn. THEN, they bring out a guy and the judge is like "Tom Springs...rape" and the level of synchronous gasping in that courtroom was the most intense I'd ever heard. The next guy was in for murder, so everyone went back to sleep.
I'm not saying one's worse than the other, but I thought that was a very interesting scenario.
Originally posted by PVSIt is not pointless at all, if you talk about just the crime itself then murder is greater then pedophilia, but that is not the end of it. There is the cause and effect of crimes that you must also look at. Take you example of the 20 year old and the one that I did for the 13 year old and which do you think is “worse” on person dead or multiple people dead and many others life destroyed, plus potentially many more destroyed or killed.
no, i just think you're trying to downplay being DEAD. 🙄also, please dont load the question with anecdotal hypothetical evidence. its pointless. ill prove it:
example one: wife hires a hitman to kill her faithful and loyal husband, just to cash in on his insurance
example two: 20 year old guy labled a peadophile and rapist for having consentual sex with a 17 year old.
see? pointless
Originally posted by ThePittman
It is not pointless at all, if you talk about just the crime itself then murder is greater then pedophilia,
correct
Originally posted by ThePittman
but that is not the end of it.
yes it is
Originally posted by ThePittman
There is the cause and effect of crimes that you must also look at. Take you example of the 20 year old and the one that I did for the 13 year old and which do you think is “worse” on person dead or multiple people dead and many others life destroyed, plus potentially many more destroyed or killed.
potential, circumstance, anecdotes, etc are irrelevant. yes, a woman killing her psychotic ******* abusive husband is a far cry better than some guy raping a baby, just as my anecdotal rebuttal sways in the opposite direction (i only posted that to point out the uselessness of hypothetical situations)
the scope of the question is direct, and the fact on it is simple. the answer: murderers
Originally posted by PVSThe question is very open however, what is “worse”. This comes down to an interpretation of what classifies as “worse”. It didn’t say that it stopped at the initial crime or exclude cause and effect; it was not phrased as a black and white question.
correctyes it is
potential, circumstance, anecdotes, etc are irrelevant. yes, a woman killing her psychotic ******* abusive husband is a far cry better than some guy raping a baby, just as my anecdotal rebuttal sways in the opposite direction (i only posted that to point out the uselessness of hypothetical situations)
the scope of the question is direct, and the fact on it is simple. the answer: murderers
It has been proven and studied time after time that abuse as a child from sexual to psychical as lead to criminal behavior as an adult from continuing the abuse to their children to killing and other antisocial behavior.
Originally posted by ThePittman
It is not pointless at all, if you talk about just the crime itself then murder is greater then pedophilia, but that is not the end of it. There is the cause and effect of crimes that you must also look at. Take you example of the 20 year old and the one that I did for the 13 year old and which do you think is “worse” on person dead or multiple people dead and many others life destroyed, plus potentially many more destroyed or killed.
Someone kills someone. Then someone who knew someone kills the first someone for killing the second someone. The third someone is then killed by a fourth someone who knew the second someone. Then everyone kills everyone.
All because you claim murder is better than paedophilia. I hope you can live with yourself. Possibly literally, if that scenario plays out.