Onslaught VS. The Defenders

Started by jasofisc6 pages

Originally posted by thedude1948
Do you know anything about Dr Strange or Silver Surfer?

I know Onslaught is pretty powerful, but Strange or Surfer would give him a tough fight.

they will give him a tough fight but I just don't think they are going to beat him. I read the entire respect thread for strange and surfer and own all the onslaught comics and from what I can see onslaught takes this.

Originally posted by jasofisc
they will give him a tough fight but I just don't think they are going to beat him. I read the entire respect thread for strange and surfer and own all the onslaught comics and from what I can see onslaught takes this.

Ive owned the Onlaught mini and crossover as well and I say Onslaught feats compares non to SS or Dr. strange.. I think alone each of this guys could take out Onslaught.. What really did Onslaught showed that allows him over against say SS and Strange the two both resisted reality manipulation on beings capable of traversing realities, making new realities possible.. Again what did Onslaught showed that the 2 hasnt seen before and conquered..

Originally posted by jasofisc
powers of franklin Richards more then enough to make surfer into a sun

yeap he didn't expect all the heros to sacrifice themselves inorder to beat him. He was on purposly pissing hulk off so that he would break his shell.

So your saying sufer is more powerfull and better then uni-Lord and strange is more power and better then in-betweener? just because they beat someone doesn't mean their stronger or bettter or more powerful. Wolverine has beaten hulk but that's PIS like a bunch of other fights.

Still, did he show any of these powers?

So a being as high as Onslaught got blindsided by the heros? 😱

No, but that is how they deal with beings higher than Onslaught, and Strange does that on the daily.

Originally posted by Roldz
Ive owned the Onlaught mini and crossover as well and I say Onslaught feats compares non to SS or Dr. strange.. I think alone each of this guys could take out Onslaught.. What really did Onslaught showed that allows him over against say SS and Strange the two both resisted reality manipulation on beings capable of traversing realities, making new realities possible.. Again what did Onslaught showed that the 2 hasnt seen before and conquered..

um beating phonix, beating down thor (along with all the other superheros) out smarting dr. doom and reed, did i mention that he had the powers of fraklen which are nearly equal to galactus. beating down juggernaught. If onslaught would have gotten serous he would have destroyed the earth and every superhero on it. Now I will give surfer and strange creidit stange is thanos level (with out help or prep) and surfer is pretty bad @## But it's not enough to contend with a guy of this power. How can they really beat him. Physcal attacks wont work (which is why I think you guys don't know anything about onslaught) he is pure psionic energy and they don't have the power to absorb all of that if all the heros on earth could barely do that.

Originally posted by jasofisc
Physcal attacks wont work (which is why I think you guys don't know anything about onslaught)

Do you really think the only type of attacks that Surfer and Strange can do are physical?

Originally posted by bigbran
Still, did he show any of these powers?

So a being as high as Onslaught got blindsided by the heros? 😱

No, but that is how they deal with beings higher than Onslaught, and Strange does that on the daily.

he was a bad guy he has to lose that doesn't mean he should have or that he really cared to fight them in the first place he was using them.

The second part doesn't mean they can win in a kmc fight with out plot devices. in the comics yeah they would win but not on here.

I'm pretty sure Surfer or Strange wouldn't have a problem containing Onslaughts power...heck Strange alone has taken down bigger threats by himself, or at least neutralized them.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Do you really think the only type of attacks that Surfer and Strange can do are physical?

no but I don't think their psionic ones are going to beat him. Prof. X has been stated to be more powerful then strange before (pro. x respect threat a scan taken from a dr. strange comic if i remember correctly.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I'm pretty sure Surfer or Strange wouldn't have a problem containing Onslaughts power...heck Strange alone has taken down bigger threats by himself, or at least neutralized them.

i agree with strange taking down bigger threats but that doesn't mean he can do it here. Most of the time he takes down the biger threats with the help of gods and cosmics he summons. That's out side help. if he is able to summon chaos and order for this fight then yeah he wins.

well i have to go I will continue debating tomarrow

Originally posted by jasofisc
he was a bad guy he has to lose that doesn't mean he should have or that he really cared to fight them in the first place he was using them.

The second part doesn't mean they can win in a kmc fight with out plot devices. in the comics yeah they would win but not on here.

Oh, of course he had to lose, but still, got blindsided.

Ya, but it shows how they deal with beings way higher than Onslaught.

Originally posted by jasofisc
no but I don't think their psionic ones are going to beat him. Prof. X has been stated to be more powerful then strange before (pro. x respect threat a scan taken from a dr. strange comic if i remember correctly.
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Anyway...
Moondragon put X in a coma... in the same book, Surfer punked her in that department (mind).

Originally posted by jasofisc
no but I don't think their psionic ones are going to beat him. Prof. X has been stated to be more powerful then strange before (pro. x respect threat a scan taken from a dr. strange comic if i remember correctly.

Professor X is nowhere near Dr Strange's level.

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, of course he had to lose, but still, got blindsided.

Ya, but it shows how they deal with beings way higher than Onslaught. 😐
Anyway...
Moondragon put X in a coma... in the same book, Surfer punked her in that department (mind).

she put prof. x in a coma do you have a scan or are you reffering to the thanosi x

Originally posted by thedude1948
Professor X is nowhere near Dr Strange's level.

well i guess if you say so

however i would like to see or at least hear about a scan that states that. prof x is hard to juge because he rarely ever cuts lose. and just because he loses in a fight doesn't mean it's because he wasn't powerfull enough it can also mean that he didn't try hard enough

Originally posted by jasofisc
she put prof. x in a coma do you have a scan or are you reffering to the thanosi x
Infinity War #3, or Infinity Crusades #3, one of the two, I'll get it tomorrow.

I think it was a coma (I heard it on a site, but while I read it, I didn't see it, so who knows?), but if it wasn't she still whooped his ass, while Surfer reigned supreme.

I'll check it out tomorrow, and get scans.

Originally posted by jasofisc
um beating phonix, beating down thor (along with all the other superheros) out smarting dr. doom and reed, did i mention that he had the powers of fraklen which are nearly equal to galactus. beating down juggernaught. If onslaught would have gotten serous he would have destroyed the earth and every superhero on it. Now I will give surfer and strange creidit stange is thanos level (with out help or prep) and surfer is pretty bad @## But it's not enough to contend with a guy of this power. How can they really beat him. Physcal attacks wont work (which is why I think you guys don't know anything about onslaught) he is pure psionic energy and they don't have the power to absorb all of that if all the heros on earth could barely do that.

Did you ever notice that Thor did not use Godblast or Jean Phoenix didnt go back in time and stop this from happening before it happened..
Whose to say he had complete control over Franklin and Nates powers, and I think Jugg was weaken for refusin to be Cytorakks champion.. All Onslaught did was blast and more blast didnt even destroy the freakin cities and no he wasnt toying w/ them and most of the guys who fought Onslaught was succeptible to Psychic attacks and nowhere near as powerfull as the 2 mentioned and those who are jobb.. Again SS and Strange destroyed planets, absorb and contained being more powerfull and shown feat above that of Onslaught.. Because of those reason each is capable of taken him out... Just my 2 cents

Originally posted by bigbran
Infinity War #3, or Infinity Crusades #3, one of the two, I'll get it tomorrow.

I think it was a coma (I heard it on a site, but while I read it, I didn't see it, so who knows?), but if it wasn't she still whooped his ass, while Surfer reigned supreme.

I'll check it out tomorrow, and get scans.

Yeah it was Infinity Crusade #3, Moondragon astrally projects herself to where Prof. X is talks to him for awhile and then fries his brain.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Yeah it was Infinity Crusade #3, Moondragon astrally projects herself to where Prof. X is talks to him for awhile and then fries his brain.
Ya, I remember, just not the comic...

There we go.


Ok, so I was wrong about one thing, in the same comic he doesn't defeat her.
I forget if he did or not exactly, I'll give more details later (I think he did though), but for now...
same attack!

I agree Dr Strange could deal with Onslaught fairly easily but not the Surfer.

Strange would just Banish Onslaught to another dimension and Onslaught would be trapped.