Onslaught VS. The Defenders

Started by jasofisc6 pages

i'm not saying the defenders can't win i'm just saying they won't take the majority against him. Just my opinion and do not think it's going to change like I said before i have read the stange and silver surfer respect thread and I know how powerfull they are I just don't think they are as power full as onslaught with out prep.

Originally posted by jasofisc
also onslaught could create an avatar for the first part incase stange does banish him, it will be an avatar.

He could Banish all of them at once.

Originally posted by Starhawk
He could Banish all of them at once.

really even if the true one was hiding and mentaly shielded

Originally posted by Starhawk
He could Banish all of them at once.

how about my other ideas will they work? would a worm hole be enough to get out of another dimention or reality munipulation power?

Franklin has only shown the ability to jump from a reality he creates to the 616 universe not any others. And Strange can sheild himself from Mental attacks.

Defenders 7/10

magic>psionics...and strange himself has experience with telepathy. defenders win.

Originally posted by jasofisc
she sucker punched him that wasn't a fight. and since you are all crying job for the hero's in the onslaught saga (which you have no prof of) then i'm going to cry job for this one.
Wait... she did the exact same thing she did to Surfer, that she did to X.

EXACT!

Originally posted by jasofisc
how about how it took pretty much all the heros on earth to beat him. Also as i've stated before reed pretty much said that all they did up untell the very end was playing into onslaughts hands.

as for surfer surviving entites of pure psionic energy that doesn't mean he should have. ABC logic sucks wolverine has beaten the Hulk Hulk has beaten thor, thor has beat the silver surfer there for wolverine could beat the silver surfer.


Yes Onslaught manipulated the heroes, manipulated them to acquire Nate/Franklin also to split there function that is how he planed to win against all the heroes..Both Nate/Franklin was also fighting the influence that Onslaught had against them inside him. Taking that to account Onslaught does not have all the potential that Both Omega mutants possess therefore what theyre capable off on there own potentially does in no way make Onslaught similar in potential..

If his done it more than a few times and it is within his powers/abilities to counter such attacks wouldnt be piss, you wouldnt disagree if your quite familiar of Surfer application of powers.. There is no logic in comics..lol 😆 ..

Originally posted by jasofisc
the speculation is yours when you think that the heros were jobbering.

So I and everyone else has to speculate based on his powers exactly how powerfull he is. He has nate and fraklin's powers and that's more then enough to take surfer and strange (if stange doesn't get to summon his gods and cosmics like order and chaos)


I can only speculate since your only providing me w/ no actual feats.. My above post is no specualtion since its been stated on panel.. that both mutant were fighting against Onslaught control.. He does not have all of Nate and Franklins powers.. FYI Franklins block his powers way before just dont know what FF4 issue and was realise via shock from the death of his families and friends.. What little powers Onslaught got Franklin is nothin much prior to the release..
Exactly How would you think Onslaught beat Strange and SS?

Originally posted by Roldz
Yes Onslaught manipulated the heroes, manipulated them to acquire Nate/Franklin also to split there function that is how he planed to win against all the heroes..Both Nate/Franklin was also fighting the influence that Onslaught had against them inside him. Taking that to account Onslaught does not have all the potential that Both Omega mutants possess therefore what theyre capable off on there own potentially does in no way make Onslaught similar in potential..

If his done it more than a few times and it is within his powers/abilities to counter such attacks wouldnt be piss, you wouldnt disagree if your quite familiar of Surfer application of powers.. There is no logic in comics..lol 😆 ..

I can only speculate since your only providing me w/ no actual feats.. My above post is no specualtion since its been stated on panel.. that both mutant were fighting against Onslaught control.. He does not have all of Nate and Franklins powers.. FYI Franklins block his powers way before just dont know what FF4 issue and was realise via shock from the death of his families and friends.. What little powers Onslaught got Franklin is nothin much prior to the release..
Exactly How would you think Onslaught beat Strange and SS?

Onslaught would just blast them (telekenitik, magnitic, psionic) them untell they were unconsciences. (when has it been stated on panel that them fighing against his control ment anything at all to his power. ) also besides a ring out how are stange and surfer going to take out onslaught? Also what pure psionic beings have they fought? Also just because franklin block his power did not mean onslaught couldn't use them. He at first had a few problems using them but later in the saga he fully assimulted them and changed to his final form.
Another think if the only way the heros were able to get though onslaugt's shiled was thought the creativeness of dr. doom. now I know silver surfer and dr. stange are powerfull but are they more powerfull then the avengers, x-men, FF, and others?

Originally posted by Roldz
Yes Onslaught manipulated the heroes, manipulated them to acquire Nate/Franklin also to split there function that is how he planed to win against all the heroes..Both Nate/Franklin was also fighting the influence that Onslaught had against them inside him. Taking that to account Onslaught does not have all the potential that Both Omega mutants possess therefore what theyre capable off on there own potentially does in no way make Onslaught similar in potential..

If his done it more than a few times and it is within his powers/abilities to counter such attacks wouldnt be piss, you wouldnt disagree if your quite familiar of Surfer application of powers.. There is no logic in comics..lol 😆 ..

I can only speculate since your only providing me w/ no actual feats.. My above post is no specualtion since its been stated on panel.. that both mutant were fighting against Onslaught control.. He does not have all of Nate and Franklins powers.. FYI Franklins block his powers way before just dont know what FF4 issue and was realise via shock from the death of his families and friends.. What little powers Onslaught got Franklin is nothin much prior to the release..
Exactly How would you think Onslaught beat Strange and SS?

oh and another think look at reed's comment in Onslaught marvel universe he said everything they have been doing was according to onslaughts plan (paraphrasing). that includes the hulk cracking his armor.

Originally posted by bigbran
Wait... she did the exact same thing she did to Surfer, that she did to X.

EXACT!

true prof doesn't have the durability that surfer has.

it just wasn't a fight concidering prof x didn't defend himself in any way

Strange zaps him away to another deminsion.

Originally posted by jasofisc
true prof doesn't have the durability that surfer has.
It wasn't about duribility!
Do you think Drax could have taken the same attack Surfer did?
No.
Originally posted by jasofisc
it just wasn't a fight concidering prof x didn't defend himself in any way
Neither did Surfer!
The exact same thing happened to each one of them, exactly!
Surfer took it way, way, way, way, way, way, better!

Originally posted by bigbran
It wasn't about duribility!
Do you think Drax could have taken the same attack Surfer did?
No. Neither did Surfer!
The exact same thing happened to each one of them, exactly!
Surfer took it way, way, way, way, way, way, better!

surfer was smoking after his attack it could have been a teleknitic attack instead of a telepathione. therefore if proff x got hit by the same attack he would be ash.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Strange zaps him away to another deminsion.

we have already been over that one (and he's going to get him if he sends a avatar and strange basnishes him and onslaught blind sights him.

so other then that what

Strange would just zap him and his avatars away. He's done it with dormammu and his army before.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Strange would just zap him and his avatars away. He's done it with dormammu and his army before.

and then what would he do to onslaught himself

He would banish Big O and his avatars away at the same time.

Originally posted by Starhawk
He would banish Big O and his avatars away at the same time.

other then that