Who Is a Christian?

Originally posted by debbiejo
How do YOU KNOW that the devil believe in Jesus?? 🙄

Can you post that scripture please?

"And when he came to the other side, to the country of the Gadarenes, two demoniacs met him, coming out of the tombs, so fierce that no one could pass that way.
And behold, they cried out, What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?"
Matthew 8:28-29

"And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped him;
And crying out with a loud voice, he said, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me."
Mark 5:6-7

"And as he stepped out on land, there met him a man from the city who had demons; for a long time he had worn no clothes, and he lived not in a house but among the tombs.
When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell down before him, and said with a loud voice, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beseech you, do not torment me."
Luke 8:27-28

"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe--and shudder."
James 2:19

* Satan and his minions know who God and Christ are... and they know what God and Christ can do to them... 😉

I dont see the word "Jesus' as being god ..do you?

I found Waldo. . . I mean Jesus

"And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped him;
And crying out with a loud voice, he said, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me."
Mark 5:6-7

Originally posted by debbiejo
I dont see the word "Jesus' as being god ..do you?

* your question was: "How do YOU KNOW that the devil believe in Jesus??" 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* your question was: "How do YOU KNOW that the devil believe in Jesus??" 😉

If the devil is a liar, then that means he knows the truth. If Jesus is truth, then Satan must beleive in him.

Originally posted by peejayd
"And when he came to the other side, to the country of the Gadarenes, two demoniacs met him, coming out of the tombs, so fierce that no one could pass that way.
And behold, they cried out, What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?"
Matthew 8:28-29

Holy Scriptures of the Orgasmism

Clause 69
Verse xxx 89-94

[i]"Thy Lord witnessed two naked demons, both of whom possessed shaft

Make bliss through bleeding matrimony

Moan so horribly, that all became deaf

However, the Almighty also witnessed Bliss

For all men became erect"

Originally posted by peejayd
"And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped him;
And crying out with a loud voice, he said, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me."
Mark 5:6-7

Holy Scriptures of the Orgasmism

Clause 69
Verse xxx 10-15 *****

"When thy sinner saw Christ from afar, he ran and bent down on thy knees

For the Lord is a good Lord, the Lord is filled with the Holy Spirit

Take me in thy mouth said the good Lord

Thy sinner dranketh his Holy Spirit

The white fluid of Faith ran down through thye sinner's breast into thy sinner's bowels"

Originally posted by peejayd
"And as he stepped out on land, there met him a man from the city who had demons; for a long time he had worn no clothes, and he lived not in a house but among the tombs.
When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell down before him, and said with a loud voice, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beseech you, do not torment me."
Luke 8:27-28

Holy Scriptures of the Orgasmism

Clause 69
Verse xxx 114-120

"Thy Lustful Sinner crossed the path without thy clothing, not a cloth on his head, not a cloth on his shaft

Bear and cold, exposed and vulnerable

The Almighty came to his aid

Orgasm sent an Angel to comfort the Lustful Sinner

The Angel shed his Holy Spirit unto thy Sinner's canal

And warmth was born of pure primal BLISS"

Originally posted by peejayd
"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe--and shudder."
James 2:19[/I]

Holy Scriptures of the Orgasmism

Clause 69
Verse xxx 31-32

"Thy should beleive God is Orgasm, the Lord is Bliss

Even thy demons masturbate to the glory of thier Lord"

Originally posted by peejayd
* Satan and his minions know who God and Christ are... and they know what God and Christ can do to them... 😉

Holy Scriptures of the Orgasmism

Clause 69
Verse xxx 42-43

"Satan and his minions, who engage in carnal bliss in the Inferno, know what the Almighty has planned for them

Penetration"

I can't believe you're doing this.......LOL 😂

Originally posted by debbiejo
I can't believe you're doing this.......LOL 😂

Yeah Gotta give Urizen his props

wait does this make me and you the only sane people on these threads?

Originally posted by peejayd
"And when he came to the other side, to the country of the Gadarenes, two demoniacs met him, coming out of the tombs, so fierce that no one could pass that way.
And behold, they cried out, What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?"
Matthew 8:28-29

"And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped him;
And crying out with a loud voice, he said, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me."
Mark 5:6-7

"And as he stepped out on land, there met him a man from the city who had demons; for a long time he had worn no clothes, and he lived not in a house but among the tombs.
When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell down before him, and said with a loud voice, What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beseech you, do not torment me."
Luke 8:27-28

"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe--and shudder."
James 2:19

* Satan and his minions know who God and Christ are... and they know what God and Christ can do to them... 😉

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah Gotta give Urizen his props

wait does this make me and you the only sane people on these threads?

Originally posted by debbiejo
I can't believe you're doing this.......LOL 😂

I decided that mere Logic cannot penetrate Faith....so I am debating thier Faith with my own 😉

Originally posted by debbiejo
It never says Devil. ❌

* demons carry their leader's belief... nice try... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* demons carry their leader's belief... nice try... 😉

only a nice try when you do as most of your ilk do....which is to attempt to redefine words to support your own argument.

Originally posted by peejayd
* demons carry their leader's belief... nice try... 😉

The word "devil" has been used as a translation for two entirely different Greek words diabolos and daimonion.

The first word is found in those verses used to prove the existence of a superhuman devil. As a word, it signifies "adversary," "traducer." "false accuser," "slanderer." Though it has been generally translated "devil," it has also been rendered "slanderers" (1 Tim. 3:11), and "false accusers" (2 Tim. 3:3: Titus 2:3).

In no instance does it relate to a fallen angel, as a careful consideration of the evidence will show. Daimonion is likewise translated "'devil" but signifies "demon." It is an entirely different word to diabolos, and is used to describe a person possessed with a disease,

When God Was Satan

In one event recorded in the Old Testament, even God appeared in the role of Satan, or adversary. The incident is described in two places: 2 Sam. 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1. The former place states: "The anger of the Lord was kindled against IsraeI, and He moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah."

However, the parallel account in the latter place (1 Chron. 21:1) records: "Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."

In the first quotation, the action is attributed to God; in the second, to satan! What is correct?

The devil is only a term used for our human nature.

^ interesting...^

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I decided that mere Logic cannot penetrate Faith....so I am debating thier Faith with my own 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* demons carry their leader's belief... nice try... 😉

There is no such thing as a demon! Silly you. 🙄

Well scripture says that Jesus has Authority over the demons not the devil, which is never mentioned as I remember it.... 😕

Originally posted by debbiejo
The word "devil" has been used as a translation for two entirely different Greek words diabolos and daimonion.

The first word is found in those verses used to prove the existence of a superhuman devil. As a word, it signifies "adversary," "traducer." "false accuser," "slanderer." Though it has been generally translated "devil," it has also been rendered "slanderers" (1 Tim. 3:11), and "false accusers" (2 Tim. 3:3: Titus 2:3).

In no instance does it relate to a fallen angel, as a careful consideration of the evidence will show. Daimonion is likewise translated "'devil" but signifies "demon." It is an entirely different word to diabolos, and is used to describe a person possessed with a disease,

When God Was Satan

In one event recorded in the Old Testament, even God appeared in the role of Satan, or adversary. The incident is described in two places: 2 Sam. 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1. The former place states:

However, the parallel account in the latter place (1 Chron. 21:1) records: "Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."

In the first quotation, the action is attributed to God; in the second, to satan! What is correct?

The devil is only a term used for our human nature.

Simple answer: they are both correct. The action is not actually attributed to God in 2 Samuel 24:1. The word God is indeed Jehovah, but the key is in the words 'he moved'. The literal Hebrew words indicate that the Lord did not move David himself, but rather allowed David to be moved to have the census. Then who did God suffer to move David to have the census? The parallel account of 1 Chronicles 21:1 says it was Satan.

In one event recorded in the Old Testament, even God appeared in the role of Satan, or adversary. The incident is described in two places: 2 Sam. 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1. The former place states:

However, the parallel account in the latter place (1 Chron. 21:1) records: "Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."

In the first quotation, the actio[/b]

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
only a nice try when you do as most of your ilk do....which is to attempt to redefine words to support your own argument.

* so, correct me if i'm wrong but... you disagree and refuse to believe that the demons carry Satan's belief? wow, that's very logical, my friend...

Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't believe that scripture says that the devil is in charge of demons..I thought it said Jesus was.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well scripture says that Jesus has Authority over the demons not the devil, which is never mentioned as I remember it.... 😕

* well, "in charge of" or "has authority over" the demons does NOT, by any means, indicate or even imply that the demons are on the good side or on Jesus' side...

* are you trying to implicate that Satan and the demons have no connection with each other, whatsoever?

"Then was brought unto him one possessed with a demon, blind and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the dumb man spake and saw.
And all the multitudes were amazed, and said, Can this be the son of David?
But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This man doth not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons.
And knowing their thoughts he said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
And if Satan casteth out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand?
And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.
But if I by the Spirit of God cast out demons, then is the kingdom of God come upon you."
Matthew 12:22-28

* clearly, Jesus casted out demons because He is not with them but against them...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no such thing as a demon! Silly you. 🙄

* maybe in Buddhism... but in Christianity, there is, my friend...

Originally posted by debbiejo
The word "devil" has been used as a translation for two entirely different Greek words diabolos and daimonion.

The first word is found in those verses used to prove the existence of a superhuman devil. As a word, it signifies "adversary," "traducer." "false accuser," "slanderer." Though it has been generally translated "devil," it has also been rendered "slanderers" (1 Tim. 3:11), and "false accusers" (2 Tim. 3:3: Titus 2:3).

* and these verses are from your favorite guy, Saint Paul...

* moreover, those words clearly states an individual... it was revealed by Saint John, who this "devil" really was...

"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world--he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
Revelation 12:9

* the Devil is Satan...

Originally posted by debbiejo
In no instance does it relate to a fallen angel, as a careful consideration of the evidence will show. Daimonion is likewise translated "'devil" but signifies "demon." It is an entirely different word to diabolos, and is used to describe a person possessed with a disease,

* wrong, my friend...

"And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gadarenes, there met him two possessed with demons, coming forth out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man could pass by that way."
Matthew 8:28

* a demon is clearly NOT a person possessed with a disease... but according to the Scripture, the person was possessed WITH demons...

* and being possessed with demons does NOT equal to a disease or other illnesses... it's not medical nor scientific but spiritual...

Originally posted by debbiejo
When God Was Satan

In one event recorded in the Old Testament, even God appeared in the role of Satan, or adversary. The incident is described in two places: 2 Sam. 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1. The former place states: "The anger of the Lord was kindled against IsraeI, and He moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah."

However, the parallel account in the latter place (1 Chron. 21:1) records: "Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel."

In the first quotation, the action is attributed to God; in the second, to satan! What is correct?

* mr.nellinator did a good job explaining this...

Originally posted by debbiejo
The devil is only a term used for our human nature.

* demons are clearly in Satan's side, demons are Satan's minions...

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels going forth to war with the dragon; and the dragon warred and his angels;"
Revelation 12:7

* the dragon is Satan, and with him are HIS angels - the demons...

* and Jesus has authority over these demons and even Satan himself... it simply shows who's mightier, who's over who... 😉