Civil War Report

Started by King KAM258 pages

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Actually as far as arguments go, Chaos clearly had a better handle on his own standpoint and support for that standpoint.

I agree that just because the reader can see inside the mind of the Marvel heroes, does not necessarily mean the government or average person can do the same, so making the government out to be villians with a negative agenda is unfair. Perhaps heroes should have some resitrictions placed on them, but then again, considering myself a Liberal person, I prise free rights above all things, and though it is clear that these heroes break the law, they should not- as Falcoln said- "be turned into supercops", further strengthening the federal government and increasing the liklihood of an eventual fascist nation.

Though it looks good on paper, a Utopian society is not something you want to be a part of.

As far as where my allegience lies; I can sympethise with Stark, as he does make sense, but being a lapdog for the government is something only ill cam come of, which is part of the reason I tentatively side with the Rebels in this storyline, as I respect the misery characters such as Spider-man, Daredevil, and other "street" fighters would have to go through with this law imposed on them, and also- as King Kam said, they have a job to do, legal or not.... Take president Bush for example, while in office he has broken over 700 US laws and essentially attempted to remove certain amendements, the 4th most specifically, from the Constitution of the United States. I do not think this is the same situation, as I do not feel Bush is justified in what he is doing, but I side with Cap and hopefully Spider-man if he switches sides.

....shaddup

Glad to see you're an objective poster... Maybe you should read people's arguments before you trash them, or would that make too much sense for you... If you had read my whole argument, you would see that I agree with you.

Originally posted by King KAM
....shaddup

Yeah, uh..."shaddup" that isn't very good argument.

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Glad to see you're an objective poster... Maybe you should read people's arguments before you trash them, or would that make too much sense for you... If you had read my whole argument, you would see that I agree with you.
didnt i tell you to shaddup rookie?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah, uh...that isn't very good argument.
damn right it is.

Originally posted by King KAM
damn right it is.

No it's not...

...rookie. 😉

Awww! *shudders* Just picked up Civil War #1 today.

Cap rox.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No it's not...

...rookie. 😉

shaddup....

son.

Originally posted by Etrigan
Awww! *shudders* Just picked up Civil War #1 today.

Cap rox.

damn right boy

Originally posted by King KAM
shaddup....

son.

King KAM - Date Registered: May 26th, 2005

DarkCrawler - Date Registered: Oct 27th, 2003

Don't you "son" me, son. 😄

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
King KAM - Date Registered: May 26th, 2005

DarkCrawler - Date Registered: Oct 27th, 2003

Don't you "son" me, son. 😄

i know uve been around the forum longer....but aslong as me and your mother are together you will respect me.....i raised you boy....and--a-a-a-and... i-i-i-d.... j-j-just like some r-r-respect for once....it wa-a-snt easy raising another mans son.... 🙁 i may not be your father....but...but i always loved you and treated you like you was my boy.....🙁

You're coming very close to losing any semblance of attention I might devote to reading your posts... you lack maturity, but I'm not getting involved, you will most likely be ignored by me from now own unless your post actually has substance to it.

Nuff' Said

Originally posted by Jade Lightning
You're coming very close to losing any semblance of attention I might devote to reading your posts... you lack maturity, but I'm not getting involved, you will most likely be ignored by me from now own unless your post actually has substance to it.

Nuff' Said

Proof that "joined on" dates mean nothing. Nice post.

Kam, quit bein' dumb. Being disrespectful to new members (or any members) because you disagree with something they say is the easiest way to spot mindless ignorance.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Proof that "joined on" dates mean nothing. Nice post.

Kam, quit bein' dumb. Being disrespectful to new members (or any members) because you disagree with something they say is the easiest way to spot mindless ignorance.

you dont own me...stay outta my buisness....this is between me and the boy, you power hungry........

How about you all knock it off? This thread is about Civil War, not some debate that has nothing to do with comics.

Originally posted by Dayscribe
How about you all knock it off? This thread is about Civil War, not some debate that has nothing to do with comics.

True.

wasn't invisible woman the one telling spidey that being public isn't a big deal? if that's her standpoint, post-dead kids and post-johnny getting beaten senseless, why would she be siding with cap?

Originally posted by Dayscribe
How about you all knock it off? This thread is about Civil War, not some debate that has nothing to do with comics.

Actually that's exactly what the writers of these comics intended. I read a interview recently with one of the writers for civil war and he said (Not in these words) the whole purpose was to

a) spark off a debate. neither side is right or wrong, its all opinion.
b) its other purpose is so th fans get to see some much adored hero vs hero action.

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
i mean, look at the Punisher. He acts as judge, jury, and executioner. What about you're next door neighbor? Would you trust him to grab a weapon and patrol the neighborhood. What about the guy down the street? Don't know who it is, but you trust that he's doing the right thing. You have to remember, [b]we know these characters. We know what kind of people they are. The Marvel US Government doesn't. They've taken it on faith that it was okay to give the heroes a loose leash, and now it's come back and bitten them in the ass. [/B]

That's a good point, but I respectfully disagree 🙂

Forgive me for taking the moral high-ground but I feel with the amount of laws and notions that are being passed or thrown away every day, there comes a point where what is right may not necessarily be legal. The law essentially is there to try and keep peace and order within society but we as humans also have moral compasses which contradict specific laws. It leads me to conclude that what some of us may consider to be right, may not always be the easiest option, and we may face a huge opposition on the way. However that's no reason to do a Tony stark and just give in to the government.

sorry for the speech but that's my opinion 🙂

wo nice little speech

There's one word that says it all here, completely embodies the subject matter no matter how you slice it, web it, smash it, or shoot it:

TRUST