Some people theorize that the cosmic rays also intensified his intellect.
I like the Morrison approach though. Reed can stretch his body, reshape it, extend it, flatten it, etc. So why can't he do that with his brain? Morrison did a sweet mini-series with the Fantastic Four where at one point we see Reed with all these weird projections coming out of his head from where he's stretching and reshaping his brain so he can think and come up with new stuff. Really neat.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
😕Tony isn't the 2nd smartest person on the planet for nothing and now with access to everything through EXTREMIS he's the MOST POWERFUL ALL-ROUND HERO EVER!
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Since when is Tony the 2nd smartest? I know he is smart but I dont know if he is in the top 3, I always thought Reed was 1, Dr.Doom was 2 and Bruce banner was 3, Tony is like a 4 or 5.
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Since when is Tony the 2nd smartest? I know he is smart but I dont know if he is in the top 3, I always thought Reed was 1, Dr.Doom was 2 and Bruce banner was 3, Tony is like a 4 or 5.
Yea. Ive always Had Reed and Doom as the top. Pym and Stark then follow on my list. People like Prof.X and Banner are more into genetics i think and arent as all around like inventors such as Reed, Doom, Stark, Pym.
Originally posted by grey fox
Plus doom has a time machine , no hero has a TM.
Reed has a time machine...And It's simplified enough that both Ben and Jonny were able to use it themselves without supervision.
IE. Ben taking Alicia back to "feel" the orgional venus de milo... And Jonny went back in time to prevent Sues death.
#1 Reed
#2a Stark
#2b Doom
#3 Pym
#4 Banner
#5 Strange
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
He's always getting beaten by somebody, doesn't mean anything. As far as Stark's actions, people are demonizing him because we live in an age when people no longer believe in their government; thus any side the government wants in this must be the wrong side, and anyone who sides with the government must be bad. Stop looking for a "right side" and a "wrong side" in this because there isn't any.
That's a matter of opinion. 🙂 I agree that to a certain extent both sides are slightly right and slightly wrong in their actions but I can understand why people would go against the government.
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
We saw in CW#2 that Stark was saying to himself that he hopes that they are doing the right thing, no one in this whole thing is truely right or wrong. Cap is advocating a violent protest against a federal law, there are better ways to protest than resorting to violence. Tony is supporting a piece of legislation that takes away a some civil liberties. I keep championing Tony's side, because no one else will even stop to look at it objectively. Do you REALLY think a 15 year old kid knows enough about the world to make life and death decisions for innocent lives? He may mean well, but so did Speedball. So did Magog when he and his guys caused the nuclear holocaust that costs millions of lives in Kingdom Come. It takes more than just "good intentions" to do what's right.
Whilst I agree that it takes more then good intentions to do the right thing, it also takes more than recruiting super villains to do your dirty work, that's never the right thing.
And as for a 15 year old kid not knowing enough about life or death decisions, I'm gonna say that some of the experienced adults don't know what to do either, I mean look at Tony Stark and shield stockpiling and brainwashing super villains to do their dirty work because he thinks we need to live in a safer world. IMO it comes across very hypocritical of Iron-man 🙂
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
And many of you aren't looking at the bigger picture of Spidey revealing his ID. You only think "Ooh, now every bad guys going to be after May and MJ, when the fact is most of them probably won't. Osborn could've had May taken out dozens of times over the years, so could Venom, but they prefer to strike at the man himself, not his family. The bigger issue is how will this effect his normal life. Remember, he works as a grade-school science teacher. Imagine being a student and finding out that he was your teacher. Imagine being a principal and finding out that you're employing a superhero. Do you keep him on, do you fire him, what do you do? How will people like Flash Thompson, who love Spidey but hate Parker, react? The "let's go attack May and MJ" thing is old, and Marvel knows it. They won't center all their stories around that when there's so many more interesting stories to tell.
You do read Marvel comics right??? 😕 Sending super villains after Peter is exactly what they will do whether its old or not. Just take a look at Civil war 5 front cover. And the only reason Osborn hasn't taken away Peter's entire friends and family (And I'm overlooking the fact that he has taken a big number of them away) Is because he likes to slowly degrade Peter. venom doesn't do it because he has the whole protect the Innocent thing going on. More Spidey villains than any fan can count will go straight for the Parker family/friends hostage routine.
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
As for Stark, WHY do you think he's evil? He's trying to save lives, and he's doing it the best way he sees to do it. Does that make him a "Judas" cause if it does you damned well better call Spidey a Benedict Arnold when he switches sides. Tony's only concern is curbing the number of civilian casualties. If that means he has to give up some of his rights to do so, and that's what he chooses, that makes him noble and selfless, not evil.
How noble and selfless of him and Shield to stockpile and utilise villains to go out into the world and do his own work, straight after giving his speech about how the act will make everywhere a safer place. 🙄
That doesn't sound noble to me, it sounds hypocritical.
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
(Oh, and as far as the question of has Patriot caused the deaths of over 600 people, the answer is no. He - and his other YA allies - caused the deaths of over 3 billion by accidentally altering time. Luckly Cap and friends were able to restore the normal time line. But I bet THAT never made the news. Patroit and frieds weren't going to restore the timeline, because they didn't want to loose their friend, Iron Lad; and if left to them it's no telling how the MU would currently be.)
True but some of the more experienced heroes are no different. Quicksilver, an Avenger himself was responsible for the alteration of the very fabric of reality and destroyed numerous lives on a universal scale, because he was afraid the Avengers might kill his sis. It seems they can have all the training in the world but these mistakes still happen. 🙁
Originally posted by BlaqChaos
In the end, is the SRA the answer to the problem? No. Eventually, it will lead to a state where the civil liberties of anyone with power are stripped away.Is allowing the heroes to continue unchecked the answer? No. Eventually, it will lead to a state similar to DC's Kingdom Come where superpowered youths run the planet and millions of innocents keep dying in their crossfire.
A mid-way point must be reached, and until one side or the other gives some ground, the situation will only continue.
I agree entirely with this point ✅
Originally posted by jrodslam
Yea. Ive always Had Reed and Doom as the top. Pym and Stark then follow on my list. People like Prof.X and Banner are more into genetics i think and arent as all around like inventors such as Reed, Doom, Stark, Pym.
✅ Yeah I agree with that list, but I definitely think Xavier is too underrated on these forums. IMO Xavier should be in the top ten smartest ✅
Originally posted by Tony Stark
Reed has a time machine...And It's simplified enough that both Ben and Jonny were able to use it themselves without supervision.IE. Ben taking Alicia back to "feel" the orgional venus de milo... And Jonny went back in time to prevent Sues death.
#1 Reed
#2a Stark
#2b Doom
#3 Pym
#4 Banner
#5 Strange
1- Agree
2-No, Tony should be 3 or 4, Dooms intellects is neck to neck with Reeds and maybe Tony but he has mastery over mystic arts, that should give him the edge over Tony and take spot 2.
3-No, While he is indeed a smart guy he doesnt have the focus to be great, he shouldnt be in this list.
4- Banner should be 3, if it wasnt for the Hulk he would be in the upper numbers.
5-Strange??? No, He has just mastery over mystic arts.
6-Beast should be 5, while not at the same level as the top 3 he is well rounded in genetics and electronics.
[i]yes Yeah I agree with that list, but I definitely think Xavier is too underrated on these forums. IMO Xavier should be in the top ten smartest yes [/B]
Xavier is smart but only in his chosen field, genetics/mutations. I dont think he'll know how to build a paper airplane, lol. Im kidding, dont go making a whole thread about that last line.