Newsflash: He's done both.
And he killed that Yinchorri....see the crack?
Countering this 'Yoda isn't strong!' bullshit
Ahhh, the last refuge of a fanboy here..."It could refer to something else!" It says 'power', it says 'strongest'....just give it up, k?
Ok, let's use standard logic and definitions: Prime of the Jedi= best of the Jedi
Sure it does. Yoda being the strongest foe of the darkness means he has the best chance against Bane...in the force? Stronger. Lightsaber? Better....especially given that he jumps and slashes to behead a clone trooper without effort...plus she's shown faster than Bane could
No where in there do I see it saying: Yoda is stronger than bane in the Force, with a lightsaber, stronger, or anything else that you mentioned. Where in the quote you provided are you getting that bullshit from?
Demonstrations of him doing so? Yoda has never tired in a fight while he's fighting....even when he carries house sized guns on his back
Originally posted by darthsith19
Who ever said that? Now, wtf are you talking about, carrying guns on his back?
Wait, your calling me a Bane fanboy when your the biggest Sidious famboy kmc has ever seen?! Please, stop whole you're ahead. No, I'm not making a last refuge, I'm telling it like it is. You know I'm right, that's why you are attacking me.
Agreed. Now [b]WTF IS THAT QUOTE REFFERING TO?????!!!!! I know it refers to jedi in their prime, but WHAT? What is it talking ahout, what is Lucas talking about, I ask you for a quote saying where it says the PT is the prime of the Jedi. You respond saying:
Lucas: To See the Jedi fighting in the PRIME OF THE JEDI."
That makes no sense. WHAT is to see the Jedi fighting in the prme of the Jedi. Not what does the quote MEAN, what is it Referring to?
The quote says: Yoda is the strongest Jedi until Luke Skywalker comes around.No where in there do I see it saying: Yoda is stronger than bane in the Force, with a lightsaber, stronger, or anything else that you mentioned. Where in the quote you provided are you getting that bullshit from?
WHEN does he carry house sized guns on his back. Proof that he has never gotten tired? 850+ years old and your tryign to tell me he never gets tired. Please, everyone gets tired, and it makes no sense for someone to get tired only after they stop fighting. No sense at all. [/B]
Clone Wars volume 3. Comic.
Because you're being a Bane fanboy and I can backup anytihng I said about Sidious.
Strongest, most skilled Jedi. Use some logic
So,l how much more powerful are the Sith than the Jedi.
When you're using the Force to sustain yourself? Hm.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Which comic in Clone Wars Volume 3? I'm not going to flip through the whole f*cking Volume just to see one thing.
No, I'm not. A Sith's Power focuses on all aspects of his or her power, not just his or ehr fighting abilities. Bane can be able to beat Sidious in a fight but Sidious can still be stornger due to his manipulation abilties and strategies ect.
Most skilled Jedi WHAT? That quote refers to nothing. I mean when is it referring to, not what does it mean. Wjy did you even put it there in the first place?
WTF? English?
Even when using the Force you can get tired, so Yoda would be no exception. Dooku got tired, Kenobi got tired in ROTS, \\ in two different battles. If Jedi don't get tired then how come in Gauntlet threads you have to say how much rest they get?
Oh, please....and strength? Oh, dear, maybe calling Bane powerful referred to his political manipulation!
Just give it a rest. This is absolutely ridiculous
MOST SKILLED AND POWERFUL JEDI, GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULL.
Learn it.
Yoda>Both of them. He's an exception. Now, if you can't counter the point? Then that's enough
Page 90-100 ish I think.
If Bane is capable of beating Sidious, how can Sidious be more powerful through his manipulation? He can't. He can be greater (which he is), he can be smarter (which he is), but he can't be more powerful.
Originally posted by darthsith19
No, you're being ridiculous by thinking that power refers ONLY to fighting abilities. That's so simple-minded, power has never referred to just pure fighting abilities. Yes, it does refer to Bane's political manipulation, however, we know Palatine's > Bane's, not the otehr way around, so it's possible that Palpatine's only stronger for this reason.
You do now gte what I'm saying. Let me put it this way: Why did you ever post that quote?
Okay, bad insult, I've been typing in english all evening. "So,l how much more powerful are the Sith than the Jedi." that it not english. That sentence makes no sense now, does it?
Yes, Yoda does > Them in the Force. he's older, too. It evens out, and yes, people who use the Force do get tired, otherwise Vader, Kenobi, and Dooku would never have gotten tired. Or Maul, or Qui-Gon.
Who ever said power = fighting abilities. bane can be a better fighter than Palpatine and thus be able to defeat him in a fight but still be overall less powerful.
Now, what does 'power' refer to? Strength? Overall stronger? Unless you can back your crap up, then cut it out
Yoda wins this fight
Ok, so he's got the best fighting abilities AND the others? Ok, great.
To exemplify how Yoda'd be better, maybe?
Apparently since Bane, who's not even the strongest Sith can beat the Strongest JEdi, well...
so what? He uses the Force to a greater degree. For the last time: Yoda is stronger than all of them
Yeah. Give it a rest. We have several quotes calling him more powerful and stronger.
Now, what does 'power' refer to? Strength? Overall stronger? Unless you can back your crap up, then cut it out
And Yoda wasn't even in Clone Wars Volume 3. I have no idea what your talking about with hosue sized guns.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Did I say Bane's got greater otehrs than Palpatine? No, I said exactly the opposite. Read more carefully next time.[/Quotes]
Ok, he lacks PAlpatine's power, so?
And how does that quote relate to Yoda in any way what-so-ever?
I dunno, being the strongest of thr strongest might be something...
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"So,I" doesn't make sense at all and it not english. "l how much" that doesn't make sense. What you said makes no sense.
Same thing I said. But Yoda will get tired, everybody does.
Yes, there are. Doesn't mean palpatine > bane in a fight, just means that [b]OVERALL he's stronger than Bane.
It means overall stronger, yes, you know it does. Power has never been the same as fighting abilities.
And Yoda wasn't even in Clone Wars Volume 3. I have no idea what your talking about with hosue sized guns. [/B]
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
how is this even a debate? Palpatine was the strongest in Bane's order, including Bane himself. This was by TPM. He got considerably stronger by ROTS. Yoda was equal to ROTS Sidious. Yoda therefore is more powerful than Bane.
Wow, thats twice in one day I agree with you...
I dunno, being the strongest of thr strongest might be something...
If you lack eyes, it's, I dunno....a typo?
He hasn't gotten tired in the Dooku fights, or in the Palpatine fight, or single handedly fighting a droid army.....he won't tire fighting Bane.
Logic points to Palp> Bane in a fight too, big deal
Oooh, oooh! what'd Palp mean when he said anakin was stronger than Dooku?
What'd Jacen mean when he called Luke 'powerful?'
How about when Palp was called the most powerful in history....and the author confirmed what it meant? Maybe the Marka Ragnos quote his fanboys used to bleat about?
Seriously....'more powerful' means 'stronger in the force'
I'm talking about the comics, not the cartoons.
He got considerably stronger by ROTS.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Strongest of what, may I ask?
Who says he didn't get tired?
Overall stronger.
That overall he's the most powerful. This doesn't necessairly mean he's the strongest in a fight.
Did the quote say that Sidious was the most powerful... with the Force? With a lightsaber? Fighting abilities? No? Then it's overall.
You mean Clone Wars Adventures Volume 3, not Clone Wars Volume 3, then. Those are two different comics, you know.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_Wars_Volume_3:_Last_Stand_on_Jabiim
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Clone_Wars_Adventures:_Volume_3
Where does it say this?
