Batdude's Tourney First Round Draft · Battlezone

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Scoobless
Nuh uh ... "regular" Absorbing Man has taken on things Earth X AM never has ... including Mjolnir and the Quantum Bands
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Well logically, he SHOULD have absorbed Mjolnir, because AM was introduced as a Thor villain. So Thor should have thrown his hammer at the guy at least once, no matter what reality their in. I'll give you the Quantum bands though(I honestly didn't even know about that, and have no intentions of using it).

Originally posted by DigiMark007
And if you're only going to use regular AM feats, why not draft regular AM instead of Earth X AM??

Because the regular version of AM is to dependant on his surroundings. I know that Earth X AM could potentially exceed the cap, but I don't plan on doing that(in other words I won't be simulating his "Absorb the entire city" routine). A lot of the characters that are going to be drafted have the potential to surpass Thanos if you go by their highest feats(several GL's, Black Alice, Amazo, technically by feats Surfer should beat Thanos too), but that's all kept in check by the "no freaking loopholes" rule. Trust me if we get this guy, we're pretty much going to be using him like the "regular" AM, but without the need to touch stuff(but I don't plan on doing the quantum band thing).

Soujaboy Restricted

Originally posted by bigbran
Not his pick.
I'm not trying to whine about Black Alice, but I'm just saying that, why can't we pick Earth X AM, but they can pick a character that has been in 2 more issues than our guy?

Not his pick?

King KAM Senior Member

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bigbran Dead

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm not as concerned with the issue numbers as his actual powers. Regular AM I really don't see too much of a problem with (though I'd honestly see him as a brick-type, not an energy pick). But this super-intelligent one seems like a walking excuse for PIS-type arguments and team-killing antics. I don't know who you have paired with him, but I'm sure the possibilities are mind-boggling.

😖hifty:
There are also going to be a lot of walking plot devices, hell look at some of the picks already. We got a person who can steal anyone's power, a guy who can stalemate abstract level beings, a guy who can adapt to anything, someone who can turn into water, and mist, someone who can grow in size, and strength by by absorbing energy, to stalemate a supposed Celestial level being, someone who only has one showing of getting pawned by a certain titan, and most of that argument is going to be based off of Galactus being scared of him... only the first round too.

Also, I was basically replying to Scoobless.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Not his pick?

I thought, that you thought, that he had Black Alice.
Double post...

Soujaboy Restricted

Originally posted by bigbran
I thought, that you thought, that he had Black Alice.
Double post...

Na I'm just messing with him.

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

Originally posted by bigbran
😖hifty:
There are also going to be a lot of walking plot devices, hell look at some of the picks already. We got a person who can steal anyone's power, a guy who can stalemate abstract level beings, a guy who can adapt to anything, someone who can turn into water, and mist, someone who can grow in size, and strength by by absorbing energy, to stalemate a supposed Celestial level being, someone who only has one showing of getting pawned by a certain titan, and most of that argument is going to be based off of Galactus being scared of him... only the first round too.
Also, I was basically replying to Scoobless.

Blah.

Just be ready for a crapload of counter-arguments, both now and in the battles. I made my case so I won't belabor it. I still stand against Earth X, because, in principle, he's got some uber-crazy sh*t that he can pull basically out of nowhere.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Blah.
Just be ready for a crapload of counter-arguments, both now and in the battles. I made my case so I won't belabor it. I still stand against Earth X, because, in principle, he's got some uber-crazy sh*t that he can pull basically out of nowhere.

Don't worry digi. Like I said, I plan on keeping him under the cap. Most of the Uber stuff will be avoided(unless OTHER people try to start pulling out all of their uber crap anyway, then it's on).

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't worry digi. Like I said, I plan on keeping him under the cap. Most of the Uber stuff will be avoided(unless OTHER people try to start pulling out all of their uber crap anyway, then it's on).

Hey, I just draft people under the cap to begin with, then I don't have to feel inhibited.

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Nah, it's cool. I'm moderately uneasy about him anyway, and my points stand, but I'd like to think we can remain professional and trusting about this and not try to "put one over" on each other.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hey, I just draft people under the cap to begin with, then I don't have to feel inhibited.
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Nah, it's cool. I'm moderately uneasy about him anyway, and my points stand, but I'd like to think we can remain professional and trusting about this and not try to "put one over" on each other.

Sounds like a deal to me.

I really did think about drafting the standard AM, but then the battle location would determine his effectiveness. If we started on a desert island, we'd pretty much be screwed. But if we started in a mystic battleground, we'd probably just steamroll over everyone. So I figured this way it wouldn't be a matter of chance, and my own unwillingness to find a loophole will keep us from going to far with his abilities(I wouldn't feel so obligated with the "regular" AM though).

Also, I figured he'd be a brick character too at first. 😂 Great minds you know...

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hey, I just draft people under the cap to begin with, then I don't have to feel inhibited.
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Nah, it's cool. I'm moderately uneasy about him anyway, and my points stand, but I'd like to think we can remain professional and trusting about this and not try to "put one over" on each other.

Hey, if your uneasy about him, what about Superman Blue?
He fought with Asmodel...

DigiMark007 Forum Leader

I dunno. We should still wait to hear from BD. I'm not totally sold that we should be allowing characters in with only a couple issues, because that opens the door for all kinds of very cheap picks that were only around briefly.

And Blue has weaknesses, and has plenty of appearences. I can prepare for someone like that. Earth X's only showing was trashing the entire Avengers roster, so it's not really as fair.

But however it turns out, I'll be ready....so it's not really a huge concern to me.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I dunno. We should still wait to hear from BD. I'm not totally sold that we should be allowing characters in with only a couple issues, because that opens the door for all kinds of very cheap picks that were only around briefly.
And Blue has weaknesses, and has plenty of appearences. I can prepare for someone like that. Earth X's only showing was trashing the entire Avengers roster, so it's not really as fair.

Shhh! ..... Don't give away our cheap characters.

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DigiMark007 Forum Leader

I PMd batdude with all the pros and cons of both picks, and we'll see what he says. I'm still against someone who became a math equation to beat Wanda, and who is hyper-intelligent and doesn't have to touch something to become it.

Seriously, adamantium AM + maybe a GL, and you have someone that's probably impossible to beat. I have a few theories on how I might still do it, but they're just theories at this point.

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I dunno. We should still wait to hear from BD. I'm not totally sold that we should be allowing characters in with only a couple issues, because that opens the door for all kinds of very cheap picks that were only around briefly.
And Blue has weaknesses, and has plenty of appearences. I can prepare for someone like that. Earth X's only showing was trashing the entire Avengers roster, so it's not really as fair.
But however it turns out, I'll be ready....so it's not really a huge concern to me.

There are no rules to the amount of comics someone must be in to be drafted and most of the time it would seem to be a weakness as you have much more to prove based of alot less.

Anyways as it comes to power messing I think with the inclusion of Black Alice and the possible taking of Amazo later on I find it hard to really knock AM off for being able to do the samething and the only arguement being that he can do things from memory since BA can do the same. The stipulation should be placed that he can't absorb the oppenents and that he can't take any powers higher than Thanos

Now as for Vulcan I don't see the big problem as Darwin does have a very PIS power but most people do and I don't think any Judge here will accept the arguement that he will adpat to everything thrown at him.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by Newjak
Now as for Vulcan I don't see the big problem as Darwin does have a very PIS power but most people do and I don't think any Judge here will accept the arguement that he will adpat to everything thrown at him.

But that is all Darwin's powers do.... if you're not letting him do that then just have them use Vulcan without Darwin.

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EDIT: Ok .... Weren't amalgam characters banned? because that's what this guy is.

ExodusCloak Senior Member

Originally posted by Scoobless
But that is all Darwin's powers do.... if you're not letting him do that then just have them use Vulcan without Darwin.
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I was actually thinking the same thing...I still think limiting Vulcan/Darwin/Petra/Sway to one adaptation per match is fair.

BTW He's not technically the same kind of amalgam as in the All Access sense.....

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Scoobless
But that is all Darwin's powers do.... if you're not letting him do that then just have them use Vulcan without Darwin.
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[b]EDIT: Ok .... Weren't amalgam characters banned? because that's what this guy is. [/B]

You see I think he is taking the guy more for the the other powers he had at the time so that this isn't the Vulcan that got creamed by Glads.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I was actually thinking the same thing...I still think limiting Vulcan/Darwin/Petra/Sway to one adaptation per match is fair.
BTW He's not technically the same kind of amalgam as in the All Access sense.....

Meh, an amalgamation is the joining together of two or more seperate things to create a new thing.

(or an alloy of mercury with other metals 😛 )

ExodusCloak Senior Member

Originally posted by Scoobless
Meh, an amalgamation is the joining together of two or more seperate things to create a new thing.
(or an alloy of mercury with other metals 😛 )

Heh... 😛 Okay what's the worst that could happen...if we limit Vulcan(Darwin, Sway, Petra) to one adaptation per match?

Come up with one adaptation that would make him unbeatable. Say his opponents are Shaman, Maxima and Firelord.(Tournament Rules 😏).