The LT runs the Guantlet

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl13 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
Well he never fought the Beyonder, but it seemed everyone was afraid of the Beyonder.

The Beyonder erased Multi-Death, potentially unbalancing the Multi-verse where everything would have collapsed, and LT did nothing.

The Beyonder has the greatest showings ever, he took over Marvel, how can you top that.

You can top it by Erasing The DCU multiverse, The DCU animated Multiverse and then The Vertigo. He's topped by mxy.

Re: The LT runs the Guantlet

1.The Anti-Monitor
2.Kismet
3.Eternity
4.Multi-Eternity
5. Abraxas
6.The Spectre
7.Mr. Mxy
8.The Ultimator Pre Retconned Beyonder (these two are probably tied)
9.Michael- THE power of the presence (vertigo)
10.Thanos Heart of the Universe -the power of TOAA
11.The Source -the power of the presence(DCU) and the source is a sentient being for those who tried to say it isn't. It did soundly deny the Spectre's destruction of DS.

Fixed the list. And he gets to 8.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You can top it by Erasing The DCU multiverse, The DCU animated Multiverse and then The Vertigo. He's topped by mxy.

And yet Ultimator tops him, and ultimator is topped by Mrbius the Zzzandman...

Stops at 5, it was stated in marvel/DC he is the Spectres counterpart.

Protege was stronger then him.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Stops at 5, it was stated in marvel/DC he is the Spectres counterpart.

Non cannon.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Protege was stronger then him.

PIS

There is only one person more powerful than the Living Tribunal and that is The One Above All(God). He does run the gauntlet with ease. He can do anything, he is ommipotent

Originally posted by darthgoober
Non cannon.

PIS

It was not PIS, It was Protege's power.

Originally posted by Starhawk
It was not PIS, It was Protege's power.

It was undeniably PIS, for the simple reason that LT had to borrow power from a Celestial to be the kid. It's no different from the PIS involved the battle between the Spectre and the Anti Monitor.

Protege's power works even on the LT.

It was not something invented for that one issue, it was how his power always worked. Therefore not PIS.

Originally posted by Starhawk
Protege's power works even on the LT.

It was not something invented for that one issue, it was how his power always worked. Therefore not PIS.


The fact that he needed the power of a Celestial(who are nothing to LT) proves that it was PIS. Get over it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The fact that he needed the power of a Celestial(who are nothing to LT) proves that it was PIS. Get over it.

No it's the nature of Protege's power to gain other powers, evne the LT.

It always has been therefore isn't PIS.

Originally posted by Starhawk
No it's the nature of Protege's power to gain other powers, evne the LT.

It always has been therefore isn't PIS.


That all would be true if not for the involvment of the Celestial. That pretty much f*cks up the whole showing.

No it doesnt adn i just read over the issue and I see nothing that the celestial did to help him. He simply used his power to gain the LT's power. It's far from PIS.

Originally posted by Starhawk
No it doesnt adn i just read over the issue and I see nothing that the celestial did to help him. He simply used his power to gain the LT's power. It's far from PIS.

What issue is it?

48-51# covers at all.

Ok what kind of crack are you smoking? The Celestial is the one who actully shut Protege up. Look...


See, the Celestial is the one who encased him in that energy muzzle.

And actually the point is moot, because LT in the one who ended up taking Protege down.

So there's NO WAY Protege has more power than LT.

I disagree with some of the postings regarding the Living Tribunal running the gauntlet. The Beyonder will remain the most controversial character because one wanted to make him the most powerful being, that didn't happen. I believe it was stated in Secret Wars that when he killed Death and defeated the Celestials, it was all an illusion by the Great Powers to study him. Owen Reece, Shaper of Worlds, Beyonder and Kubik are all cosmic cubes. They are not ommipotent. The Beyonders(maybe the same as the Infinites) were allowed by the Living Tribunal to enter or watch Earth meaning the Tribunal is also more powerful than them. Who is Archangel Micheal?
I do have a comic which shows the Tribunal and the Spectre summoning the 'Brothers' to start the next cycle. I do believe the Spectre is less powerful than the Tribunal becuase he had a hard time with the Anti-Monitor. In regards to the non-canon heart of the infinite(universe), Thanos only defeated an M-body of the Tribunal. An M-body contains a fraction of the Tribunal's power. To me, when The One Above All(Stan Lee or Jack Kirby) created the Living Tribunal, he made him Marvel's most powerful being

If you read the issue LT says when you reach his level power is no longer a factor. Hence they were equal, Protege just didn't have experiance with his power.

Originally posted by Starhawk
If you read the issue LT says when you reach his level power is no longer a factor. Hence they were equal, Protege just didn't have experiance with his power.

Really, cause that's not what you said here...

Originally posted by Starhawk
Protege was stronger then him.

So first you say Protege was STRONGER than LT, and NOW you say that they were equal? Also, the fact that LT could take him down proves he was more powerful overall. Even IF they were equal in power, LT also possesses omniscience while Protege doesn't. Hence, LT wins in a fight between the two. Period.