Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hela definitely doesn't want Diana to die. She really loses then. Besides, Diana could use the Godwave and obliterate Hela. So no one touch quickies for either of them.
From what I've seen in order to use the godwave you must first pray. When Diana gets on her knees she gets touched and dies.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
From what I've seen in order to use the godwave you must first pray. When Diana gets on her knees she gets touched and dies.
Then she transmorfts into the Goddess of Truth and Hela is in trouble. Besides it won't come to that. Diana is too fast for Hela. ANd the lasso pretty much is a sho in win for her.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then she transmorfts into the Goddess of Truth and Hela is in trouble. Besides it won't come to that. Diana is too fast for Hela. ANd the lasso pretty much is a sho in win for her.
Who said anything about transforming to the goddess of truth? if thats the case every time hela dies she's resurrected by Odin due to the fact that he needs her and has done so before.
BTW, do you have proof that she just turns to truth woman when she dies?
Hela could be completely disintegrated, and she could pull herself back together. That's a durability level she shares with Odin and the highest Gods; only characters like Juggernaut have greater durability.
I grant the power of the lasso, but it brings a question to my mind. They say about the Flash - with speed like that, why isn't every fight just one panel? Because it's like the lasso - why isn't every fight WW has just a single page, if the lasso does that? A lot can happen before that. Hela has astral projection and illusion casting; she could attack Diana with dozens of her forms at once, and be in close before Diana knew which was the real one.
Originally posted by roughrider
Hela could be completely disintegrated, and she could pull herself back together. That's a durability level she shares with Odin and the highest Gods; only characters like Juggernaut have greater durability.I grant the power of the lasso, but it brings a question to my mind. They say about the Flash - with speed like that, why isn't every fight just one panel? Because it's like the lasso - why isn't every fight WW has just a single page, if the lasso does that? A lot can happen before that. Hela has astral projection and illusion casting; she could attack Diana with dozens of her forms at once, and be in close before Diana knew which was the real one.
ON KMC threads, we operate characters at thier optimal. Illusion casting isn't going to work on Diana. Diana Also has the Lasso which grants her continuing renewal. Don't think the death touch would work.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Who said anything about transforming to the goddess of truth? if thats the case every time hela dies she's resurrected by Odin due to the fact that he needs her and has done so before.BTW, do you have proof that she just turns to truth woman when she dies?
She has only died once and she was turned into the Goddess of truth. Which is her role in the pantheon. She is still the avatar of truth now.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
What makes you think she will turn to the wonder truth when killed in this fight.
What makes you think she won't. She is the avatar of truth. And what makes you think Hela can Kill Diana, where Sersi, who is more powerful than Hela, Cannot. Neither could Decay. It took the power of Neron to do that. And Neron Beats Hela 8 ways to sunday. I dont' see Diana losing to Hela from anything more than Slip ups. so I give them 5/5
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What makes you think she won't. She is the avatar of truth. And what makes you think Hela can Kill Diana, where Sersi, who is more powerful than Hela, Cannot. Neither could Decay. It took the power of Neron to do that. And Neron Beats Hela 8 ways to sunday. I dont' see Diana losing to Hela from anything more than Slip ups. so I give them 5/5
What makes me think she won't? um just the fact that it's never been stated in comics or in bio's that she automatically transforms to truth woman when she dies.
Sersi more powerful than Hela? na.
Hela's not Decay, and she's not Neron, different power sets and lv's. This isn't a debate on whether or not Hela is as powerful as the characters mentioned above, it's about taking the two's power sets and power sets and comparing who's are of more quality. Hela is obviously the victor when comparing the above.
Hela 10/10
Originally posted by Soujaboy
What makes me think she won't? um just the fact that it's never been stated in comics or in bio's that she automatically transforms to truth woman when she dies.Sersi more powerful than Hela? na.
Hela's not Decay, and she's not Neron, different power sets and lv's. This isn't a debate on whether or not Hela is as powerful as the characters mentioned above, it's about taking the two's power sets and power sets and comparing who's are of more quality. Hela is obviously the victor when comparing the above.
Hela 10/10
Not really. Hela doesn't have anything to put her above Diana. She isn't stronger. She isn't faster. She isn't a better fighter. Diana's weapons make her just as Dangerous to Hela as hela would be to Diana. None of Hela's illusion powers are going to work. Seris is indeed far more powerful than Hela. And we see how well that works. Sersi turned ALL the pantheons' on thier ear. Hela can't beat Zeus or Odin. WHo says Hela would even be able to Touch Diana? With D's Speed and reflexes. She certainly has the Shield of Aegis. Your giving Hela too much credit and Diana not enough.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not really. Hela doesn't have anything to put her above Diana. She isn't stronger. She isn't faster. She isn't a better fighter. Diana's weapons make her just as Dangerous to Hela as hela would be to Diana. None of Hela's illusion powers are going to work. Seris is indeed far more powerful than Hela. And we see how well that works. Sersi turned ALL the pantheons' on thier ear. Hela can't beat Zeus or Odin. WHo says Hela would even be able to Touch Diana? With D's Speed and reflexes. She certainly has the Shield of Aegis. Your giving Hela too much credit and Diana not enough.
Prove to me that the illusions won't work on WW.
Show me an attack that Diana has thats a one shot kill.
Show me Diana individually challenging foes on Odin's lv.
As I stated earlier hela touched Diana and she's dead, steals her soul, summons her army, etc.
Hela 10/10
Originally posted by roughrider
Is it possible the lasso doesn't work on characters in Marvel? Look at Avengers/JLA. It wasn't stopping Terminus, and The Grandmaster looked like he was playing along, telling enough truth to further his agenda - Diana was suspicious later, about what he wasn't saying.
In Kmc Forum Rules, theyoperate in a neutral zone where all powers work. And Terminus is not a being is it? I thought it was some kind of robot. As far as the Grand master playing along, he was telling the truth.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Prove to me that the illusions won't work on WW.Show me an attack that Diana has thats a one shot kill.
Show me Diana individually challenging foes on Odin's lv.
As I stated earlier hela touched Diana and she's dead, steals her soul, summons her army, etc.
Hela 10/10
Diana has the Eyes of a Goddes who allows her to see thru illusions. She also is still imbued with her Truth powers as a Goddes. She is immune to Illusions.
Diana's Sword, Tiara, or Godwave are all one shot kills.
Diana Took on Zeus, and deflected the power of the entire greek pantheon.
Hela can't touch Diana. She has the Shield of Aegis to protect her and is too fast.
You should try reading some wonderwoman. You might like her. Obviously you haven't been.
I give Diana more credit that Soujaboy - Thor did find a way to come out on top with Hela, and without the use of his hammer. Diana could too. Hela is likely vunerable to the lasso, and greatly weakened without her cloak. Diana isn't completely invunerable, and I think she is vunerable to the Death Touch. Split down the middle, 5/5; that's how I'm leaning.
Originally posted by roughrider
Is it possible the lasso doesn't work on characters in Marvel? Look at Avengers/JLA. It wasn't stopping Terminus, and The Grandmaster looked like he was playing along, telling enough truth to further his agenda - Diana was suspicious later, about what he wasn't saying.
That's an assumption that's faulty under forum rules.
Thing is whether she transforms into an astral form or not, all Diana has to do is lasso her once. Due to its unique life-giving properties, Hela will likely perish.
Or she could force Hela to tell Diana her weakness. Especially since it's such a detrimental and obvious one...
Originally posted by Draco69
That's an assumption that's faulty under forum rules.Thing is whether she transforms into an astral form or not, all Diana has to do is lasso her once. Due to its unique life-giving properties, Hela will likely perish.
Or she could force Hela to tell Diana her weakness. Especially since it's such a detrimental and obvious one...
Originally posted by Soujaboy
She has a life force, and it's never been stated that she can't.
She's truly immortal unlike Thor and the other Asgardians who are defined as "long-lived". If she's never killed in battle, she'll live forever.
This was shown when the Amazons survived to the 85, 751 century....
Plus her lasso constantly gives her life. Decay instantly kills with a touch as well. It didn't work on Diana..... Hades used numerous death spells on Diana as well....