It proved ineffective against Lobo and Deathstroke. It's been ripped apart on many occasions. What makes you think Hela wouldn't be able to resist it especially in her own realm?
No offense to the lasso, but If the lasso is the only thing Diana is depending on to win in this fight, I got to give Hela the win. Relying a single tool is not a great strategy for victory.
Originally posted by Evangel94
It proved ineffective against Lobo and Deathstroke.
PIS. It can affect skyfather-level gods and the Spectre himself...but an assassin and a motorcycle riding alien can resist it?
Does this make sense? Nope. It's no different from when Slade managed to defeat Green Lantern by breaking his hand...
Originally posted by Evangel94
It's been ripped apart on many occasions.
Wrong. It was canonically destroyed once in Golden Perfect where it was shown that if Diana absolves herself from the truth, than the lasso the embodiement of truth in the universe will be breakable.
It cannot be broken unless Diana as the Goddess of Truth deems it so. It is the the ultimate truth. It's the truth that makes the universe function (i.e. the truth is that 2+2 is four not fish).
Originally posted by Evangel94
If the lasso is the only thing Diana is depending on to win in this fight, I got to give Hela the win. Relying a single tool for a win is not a great strategy for victory.
Actually it's all she needs. It's the perfect anti-thesis to Hela.
Originally posted by Evangel94
It proved ineffective against Lobo and Deathstroke. It's been ripped apart on many occasions. What makes you think Hela wouldn't be able to resist it especially in her own realm?No offense to the lasso, but If the lasso is the only thing Diana is depending on to win in this fight, I got to give Hela the win. Relying a single tool is not a great strategy for victory.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Any more than Hela relying on her cloak isn't a great strat. Besides, when has the Lasso ever been ripped by anyone in continuity? Also Lobo is protected by both Heaven and Hell. Hela wouldn't be able to beat him either. As far as Hela Being able to resist the lasso. Nope. Hades cant. Zeus can't. Diana has faced down a mad zeus. Hela doesn't compare to that. I give them 5/5 Each based on either one with the goods to put the other down.
True. Lobo is a plot-device ridden character. It seems that both Heaven and Hell fear him so, I guess it makes sense that the lasso possible won't work on him.
If the Presence fears him for some stupid reason....
Originally posted by Draco69
True. Lobo is a plot-device ridden character. It seems that both Heaven and Hell fear him so, I guess it makes sense that the lasso possible won't work on him.If the Presence fears him for some stupid reason....
Originally posted by Draco69
PIS. It can affect skyfather-level gods and the Spectre himself...but an assassin and a motorcycle riding alien can resist it?
Lobo has always been portrayed as a heavy hitter in DC, so I'm not above him breaking the lasso. To me, if it happened, it happened and there's no debating it. Just take it in stride and keep moving foward.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Lobo has always been portrayed as a heavy hitter in DC, so I'm not above him breaking the lasso. To me, if it happened, it happened and there's no debating it.
Yeeeaaaah. He didn't break though. He for some odd reason managed to resist it.
It doesn't matter if he's a "heavy hitter". NOTHING can break it. Not even the Spectre could break it. Not Superman. Not Darkseid. Not Captain Marvel. Not Orion. Not Zeus. All of these who are superior in strength to Lobo.
And your logic doesn't make sense. If it happened than it's admissible under forum rules?
I mean if Slade resisted the lasso is not PIS in your book than his PIS ridden portrayal against the JLA is admissible as well.
Originally posted by Draco69
It doesn't matter if he's a "heavy hitter". NOTHING can break it. Not even the Spectre could break it. Not Superman. Not Darkseid. Not Captain Marvel. Not Orion. Not Zeus.
I'm just going to stop debating with you here. It just seems whatever I would say would just fall on deaf ears.
I'll just leave you with these words of advice:
There's always a bigger dog out there. There's always someone whose stronger, faster, or more resilient. No one character is invincible. No one.
Originally posted by Evangel94
I'm just going to stop debating with you here. It just seems whatever I would say would just fall on deaf ears.I'll just you with these words of advice:
There's always a bigger dog out there. There's always someone whose stronger, faster, or more resilient. No one character is invincible. No one.
This is about the lasso of Truth. No one has ever broken the Lasso while Diana remains the avatar of truth.
Originally posted by Evangel94
I'm just going to stop debating with you here. It just seems whatever I would say would just fall on deaf ears.I'll just leave you with these words of advice:
There's always a bigger dog out there. There's always someone whose stronger, faster, or more resilient. No one character is invincible. No one.
the Ultimator is pretty invincible. 😄
Originally posted by Evangel94
I'm just going to stop debating with you here. It just seems whatever I would say would just fall on deaf ears.
Honey, please don't feign intellectual superiority. 😬
You clearly lack the ability to discern high-end and low-end showings.
Even when they're so obvious.
Let's do simple math: If the Wrath of God can't break the lasso, what makes you think Lobo can?
Come on now.....
Originally posted by Evangel94
I'll just leave you with these words of advice:
When I want advice on how to make a rather poor comeback, I'll come straight to you.
Originally posted by Evangel94
There's always a bigger dog out there. There's always someone whose stronger, faster, or more resilient. No one character is invincible. No one.
Ah, yes. The deceptively wise statement meant to deflect your own inability to debate properly.
The statement you made above is just lofty and completely inconsequential to the topic.
😬
Originally posted by Draco69
Honey, please don't feign intellectual superiority. 😬You clearly lack the ability to discern high-end and low-end showings.
Even when they're so obvious.
Let's do simple math: If the Wrath of God can't break the lasso, what makes you think Lobo can?
Come on now.....
When I want advice on how to make a rather poor comeback, I'll come straight to you.
Ah, yes. The deceptively wise statement meant to deflect your own inability to debate properly.
The statement you made above is just lofty and completely inconsequential to the topic.
😬
Don't piss of Draco 😮 😠
Originally posted by Draco69
She's truly immortal unlike Thor and the other Asgardians who are defined as "long-lived". If she's never killed in battle, she'll live forever.This was shown when the Amazons survived to the 85, 751 century....
Plus her lasso constantly gives her life. Decay instantly kills with a touch as well. It didn't work on Diana..... Hades used numerous death spells on Diana as well....
the only reason the Asgardians die is because of Ragnarok, their born into doom as stated by Thor in Ragnarok. Otherwise they would be about as immortal as the Olympians.
Neither Decay or Hades are Hela, there attacks may differ from those of Hela's. Besides, you think DC would allow WW to die that easily?
What this fight comes down to is actually pretty simple, a low/mid level skyfather level character, vs a low/level herald level character. That's not to say that WW doesn't have a chance to take a couple of wins through her weapons if she gets lucky(because they ARE designed to take on being's like her), but Hela should take a decent majority. Say...7-8/10.
Originally posted by darthgoober
What this fight comes down to is actually pretty simple, a low/mid level skyfather level character, vs a low/level herald level character. That's not to say that WW doesn't have a chance to take a couple of wins through her weapons if she gets lucky(because they ARE designed to take on being's like her), but Hela should take a decent majority. Say...7-8/10.
Low Lvl herald level character? How many Heralds can hold up the Spectre or Pull the Earth?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
The Spectre's weight was pure speculation, and she pulled the earth along with two other characters.Thor's strength feats are more impressive.
what the hell does Thor's Strenght feats have to do with anything? The most I've seen thor do is move the midgard Serpant. Superman and Diana could both pull that feat off. I'm not that impressed. And the Spectres Weight is not Speculative. IT was said that they carried the weight of eternity. The reason they didn't give it an actual number is becuz it couldn't be one. Unlike Marvel who just likes to make up these rediculous numbers like millions of times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse combined crap, they just decided to leave it open to let you know that there was no ending to his weight. Which is why they eventully had to let him fall. And Even if she did pull the weight of the Earth with Two other beings, Since when has any Herald ever been shown doing a strength feat on that lvl? She's not exactly Low lvl Herald. Especially since No Herald under Morg WOL could pull 10/10 on her. Not if she's ready for them.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
what the hell does Thor's Strenght feats have to do with anything? The most I've seen thor do is move the midgard Serpant. Superman and Diana could both pull that feat off. I'm not that impressed. And the Spectres Weight is not Speculative. IT was said that they carried the weight of eternity. The reason they didn't give it an actual number is becuz it couldn't be one. Unlike Marvel who just likes to make up these rediculous numbers like millions of times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse combined crap, they just decided to leave it open to let you know that there was no ending to his weight. Which is why they eventully had to let him fall. And Even if she did pull the weight of the Earth with Two other beings, Since when has any Herald ever been shown doing a strength feat on that lvl? She's not exactly Low lvl Herald. Especially since No Herald under Morg WOL could pull 10/10 on her. Not if she's ready for them.
Show me were it's stated that his weight was the equvilant to that of Eternity. If that were true the moon and that solar syatem would have collpased under his weight.
Thor's Earth serpent feat is more impressive than anything WW has ever done, however there's more.
such as... shaking entire planets
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thor38809hc7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thor38810yh9.jpg
or Closing and punching through dimensional walls
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/powertodemolishworlds.jpg
or throwing the earth out of orbit in an arm wrestling match
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/moutainfalls.jpg
Show me a feat of WW doing anything as impressive.
