Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlNow... this is bullshit.
Low to mid lvl herald lvl beings dont' get quoted as being two of the mightiest beings in existance. Not when DC beings are concerned. YOu'd have to be High tier herald lvl or better. As a matter of fact, I'd wager that if the Surfer couldn't produce a certain red sun or kryptonite effect on superman, he wouldnt' be able to beat him either.
Why can't he defeat Superman, without his red sun radiation?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, How many people in Marvel are in Diana's Strength Range? how many of them are as resistant to magic as she is? She's more resistant to magic, telepathy, and matter transmution than Thor is. And your saying he dogged the shit out of her, did you read the same story I did? she was holding back. She knew he was out of his mind with rage and anger. I also remember her making his ears bleed and breaking some ribs. Now how many beings in comics have actually broken Superman's bones. Nothing but the very highest of tier characters are in Diana's Strength Range, Nothing but the highest calibur opponents have ever broken superman's bones. So I am quite puzzed about your equation of Superman/Thor/And surfer. And if your talking versatility, Hell Diana has that in the Bag as well. Cuz she has as many one use powers as Thor. and can get even more.
There are a number of characters who are as strong, stronger, or slightly weaker than WW. Thor, Hercules, Hulk, Sentry, Hyperion, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Juggernaut, Kurse, Mangog, BRB, etc. I don't understand why you find Marvel characters so competent when compared to DC characters.
I'm not sure?
Thor deals with magic on a regular basis and has shown no sign of weakness when being pit against it. He has battled countless mystical beings, more so than even your beloved WW.
Again Thor has shown great resistance to telepathy as well. Thor was able to withstand a telepathic assault that not even Moondragon was able to cope with.
Matter manipulation? meh, don't know and don't care much. Considering WW can't transmute matter while Thor can, I find this as no problem.
She go knocked from the sun to earth, it was clear he was hogging her.
Name them, and I'll name Thor's. With standard equipment or even if she posses all her weapons Thor is more powerful than she.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
There are a number of characters who are as strong, stronger, or slightly weaker than WW. Thor, Hercules, Hulk, Sentry, Hyperion, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Juggernaut, Kurse, Mangog, BRB, etc. I don't understand why you find Marvel characters so competent when compared to DC characters.I'm not sure?
Thor deals with magic on a regular basis and has shown no sign of weakness when being pit against it. He has battled countless mystical beings, more so than even your beloved WW.
Again Thor has shown great resistance to telepathy as well. Thor was able to withstand a telepathic assault that not even Moondragon was able to cope with.
Matter manipulation? meh, don't know and don't care much. Considering WW can't transmute matter while Thor can, I find this as no problem.
She go knocked from the sun to earth, it was clear he was hogging her.
Name them, and I'll name Thor's. With standard equipment or even if she posses all her weapons Thor is more powerful than she.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL, her Godwave trumps all of his power. She has not only gobs of Weapons, but the ability to call upon more powers from the Gods in certain Situlations. And You basically answered my question for me. WHen you named all those people who are at WW's lvl in strength,all of those people would give Thor a hard time in battle. SO your equation putting WW way on the other end of the spectrum is trumped by your own estimation of whom WW is in leagues with.
So one attack makes her more versatile than Thor? Considering it's not her own power and it's technically outside help, it's not that impressive.
Yes, most of the characters mentioned would give Thor a hard time in a physical confrontation, but in an all out battle some of the characters wouldn't stand much of a chance.
In strength she's in their league, but not as strong. However in a heated battle with Thor, Surfer, or Superman she'd get hogged.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
So one attack makes her more versatile than Thor? Considering it's not her own power and it's technically outside help, it's not that impressive.Yes, most of the characters mentioned would give Thor a hard time in a physical confrontation, but in an all out battle some of the characters wouldn't stand much of a chance.
In strength she's in their league, but not as strong. However in a heated battle with Thor, Surfer, or Superman she'd get hogged.
In a heated battle, She'd Get hogged? in a heated battle, Thor would have to be dishing out punishment like Zeus and Superman at better than light speeds. He would have to deal with an all out Diana. We've seen what she does when she's holding bak. Breaking Supers ribs. When she's not holding back, she's beaten Daxamites and White martians. So exactly when would thor hog her? Since she has magic defense against his every attack. Her combat speed trumps thors. And she's in thier strength league but not as strong? PROVE IT. Also one more thing. what makes her as versatile as Thor is she has been shown to pull powers out of her ass. And The Godwave is her attack. Especially since Thor gets his power from the Odin force. HIs hammer is an outside source by all accounts. So I dont see how you can call her Godwave outside but not Thor's Hammer and all it's wonderful abilities.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In a heated battle, She'd Get hogged? in a heated battle, Thor would have to be dishing out punishment like Zeus and Superman at better than light speeds. He would have to deal with an all out Diana. We've seen what she does when she's holding bak. Breaking Supers ribs. When she's not holding back, she's beaten Daxamites and White martians. So exactly when would thor hog her? Since she has magic defense against his every attack. Her combat speed trumps thors. And she's in thier strength league but not as strong? PROVE IT. Also one more thing. what makes her as versatile as Thor is she has been shown to pull powers out of her ass. And The Godwave is her attack. Especially since Thor gets his power from the Odin force. HIs hammer is an outside source by all accounts. So I dont see how you can call her Godwave outside but not Thor's Hammer and all it's wonderful abilities.
All Thor would have to do is BFR her, ko her, shrink her, hit her with a god blast, use an anti gravity blast so she can no longer move, transmute her body into jello, simply smash her head in, put her to sleep(has done so with Mjolnir), use a life force blast, paralyze her(he's done so), anti force blast, increase his lightning by 10,000 fold and attack her with an onslaught of lightning bolts, etc.
When Thor's not holding back he's defeated all of Infinity watch which includes a number of top tier characters. This includes, owning Drax with the power gem, hogging Surfer, hogging BRB, etc.
So now she has a defense against his every attack. Show me proof of this, seeing as how all these defenses you speak of didn't aid her when she was punched from the sun to earth.
Her combat speed doesn't trump Thor seeing as Thor can literally swing Mjolnir at multiples of the speed of light. Show me Diana swinging anything at light speed.
I have, by simply stating feats that you were unable to match. Alone she doesn't have the feats to match up with Thor or Superman.
Name these powers you speak of, or hush.
Mjolnir has actually been stated to only channel Thor's power, meaning that Thor could potentially one day accomplish all the feat Mjolnir has shown us. Thor has half elder god half uber god, has been stated to be more than all of Asgard.
No it's not her attack. She has to get down and pray to other gods just to use the attack. I've never seen thor beg to use Mjolnir, have you?
The Odin Force is basically a blood trait passed down from father to son, much different than the godwave.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
All Thor would have to do is BFR her, ko her, shrink her, hit her with a god blast, use an anti gravity blast so she can no longer move, transmute her body into jello, simply smash her head in, put her to sleep(has done so with Mjolnir), use a life force blast, paralyze her(he's done so), anti force blast, increase his lightning by 10,000 fold and attack her with an onslaught of lightning bolts, etc."And exactly is he going to BFR her when she has the Sandles of Hermes? How is Gravity going to stop a being who get's thier powers from the Earth? Who can tow the moon? How is Thor going to transmute Diana when she is immune to transmutation? How is he going to smash her head in when Superman punched Diana at faster than Light speeds and her head didn't cave in? Besides, Diana can easily block the Hammer's swing. And what is to stop diana from lassoing Thor and simply severing his head with her sword or Tiara? You act as if Thor would just be fighting a simpleton who isn't a trained Goddess with as many ways to instantly kill him as he has her. "
When Thor's not holding back he's defeated all of Infinity watch which includes a number of top tier characters. This includes, owning Drax with the power gem, hogging Surfer, hogging BRB, etc.
"Thor has also gotten his assed kicked by ONE juggernaut, ONe Hulk, ect. Diana at height has fought White martians, Multiple members of the Crime Syndicate, ANGELS, and quantum Zealots. Everyone has thier hi end feats."
So now she has a defense against his every attack. Show me proof of this, seeing as how all these defenses you speak of didn't aid her when she was punched from the sun to earth.
" She also was trying to calm her freind down who was out of his mind. Your using a bad example which is hurting your cause. Especially since she was holding back and still managed to hurt Clark. I dont need to talk about her defenses when everyone and thier mother knows that her Bracelets have blocked the OE which trumps thor's hammer every time, and she has also blocked all the power of the Greek pantheon, which also trumps thor's hammer. So maybe you want to rethink your argument that she can't defend against thor. Especially in light of the fact that she is made by the God's to especially meet the challenge of other godly and magical beings. "
Her combat speed doesn't trump Thor seeing as Thor can literally swing Mjolnir at multiples of the speed of light. Show me Diana swinging anything at light speed.
"You obviously dont' know what combat speed is. Thor swinging his hammer to travel isn't combat speed. Diana is consistantly shown using top tier combat speed. She beats thor's pants off in combat Speed."
I have, by simply stating feats that you were unable to match. Alone she doesn't have the feats to match up with Thor or Superman.
"This isn't about Superman. And it doesnt' matter how many feats someone has, the runner has very few, and I have no doubt that he can beat Thor and Superman. It's about the character and what has been shown of them. "
Name these powers you speak of, or hush.
"Diana has been able to renew herself from the all consuming withering Touch of Decay, She has been able to put people instantly into a dream like state, she has been able to break curses and more. "
Mjolnir has actually been stated to only channel Thor's power, meaning that Thor could potentially one day accomplish all the feat Mjolnir has shown us. Thor has half elder god half uber god, has been stated to be more than all of Asgard.
"Diana is the Universe's Avatar of Truth. Diana is also the wielder of the Godwave. She is also blessed with the Gifts of Several Gods. Who has more potential?"
No it's not her attack. She has to get down and pray to other gods just to use the attack. I've never seen thor beg to use Mjolnir, have you?
"Thor has to beg when Odin desides he isn't worthy."
The Odin Force is basically a blood trait passed down from father to son, much different than the godwave. "And exactly who esle has wielded the God wave besides Ares?"
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In a heated battle, She'd Get hogged? in a heated battle, Thor would have to be dishing out punishment like Zeus and Superman at better than light speeds. He would have to deal with an all out Diana. We've seen what she does when she's holding bak. Breaking Supers ribs.
She was holding back against Doomsday Superman? Or barely? I think you are overrating Diana a tad.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Her combat speed trumps thors. And she's in thier strength league but not as strong? PROVE IT
It actually doesnt. She barely has an example where she even speedblitz against an opponent.
About the strength, well i provide ensigh and backed it up. You dodged it for what it seems.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Also one more thing. what makes her as versatile as Thor is she has been shown to pull powers out of her ass. And The Godwave is her attack. Especially since Thor gets his power from the Odin force
Totally rubbish. Thor`s power its *his* power. Unless its something like a King Thor version where he actually receives the Odin Power passed to him.
Regular Thor doesnt have that. And unless its especifically stated that hes using a charged hammer to add power, when he uses it as a blunt weapon its his strength behind the move. Because you know, a hammer on its lonesome doesnt provide hitting force.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And The Godwave is her attack. Especially since Thor gets his power from the Odin force. HIs hammer is an outside source by all accounts. So I dont see how you can call her Godwave outside but not Thor's Hammer and all it's wonderful abilities.
I had the ideia that in order for her to use the Godblast, she had to ask permittion first. Thor doesnt ask permittion to use what the hammer provides.
Originally posted by olympian
She was holding back against Doomsday Superman? Or barely? I think you are overrating Diana a tad.It actually doesnt. She barely has an example where she even speedblitz against an opponent.
About the strength, well i provide ensigh and backed it up. You dodged it for what it seems.
Totally rubbish. Thor`s power its *his* power. Unless its something like a King Thor version where he actually receives the Odin Power passed to him.
Regular Thor doesnt have that. And unless its especifically stated that hes using a charged hammer to add power, when he uses it as a blunt weapon its his strength behind the move. Because you know, a hammer on its lonesome doesnt provide hitting force.
I had the ideia that in order for her to use the Godblast, she had to ask permittion first. Thor doesnt ask permittion to use what the hammer provides.
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Originally posted by Draco69
Honey, please don't feign intellectual superiority. 😬You clearly lack the ability to discern high-end and low-end showings.
Even when they're so obvious.
Let's do simple math: If the Wrath of God can't break the lasso, what makes you think Lobo can?
Come on now.....
When I want advice on how to make a rather poor comeback, I'll come straight to you.
Ah, yes. The deceptively wise statement meant to deflect your own inability to debate properly.
The statement you made above is just lofty and completely inconsequential to the topic.
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Ah yes, the a-typical lecture coming from a fanboy sporting not only a "Wonder Woman Signature" and a "Wonder Woman Avatar" but also completely slanted and exaggerated opinions of Wonder Woman!
It's clear your opinions are so biased towards Wonder Woman, you can't even BEGIN to be a neutral judge in this discussion.
I tried to end things nicely and calmly, but you just had to get your last word in spouting typical fanboy nonsense. Un-be-lie-va-ble! 🙄
Wonder Woman gets beat by people all the time just like the rest of the comic book heroes. Her lasso does not grant automatic vistory, and she's not invincible. Get over yourself "honey".
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Why do you believe WW will know about the cloak?
The Eyes of a Goddes can let her see the truth. Or a quick lasso wrap would tell her about the cloak. And it's not like Hela won't be gaurding against the cloak coming off. Warriors like Diana tend to spot something like that.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Eyes of a Goddes can let her see the truth. Or a quick lasso wrap would tell her about the cloak. And it's not like Hela won't be gaurding against the cloak coming off. Warriors like Diana tend to spot something like that.
We know about the all knowing eyes🙄
You just believe Hela would allow herself to be entangled in the lasso? why wouldn't she just shield herself?
How often does Hela go in a fight "guarding" against her cloak?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
We know about the all knowing eyes🙄You just believe Hela would allow herself to be entangled in the lasso? why wouldn't she just shield herself?
How often does Hela go in a fight "guarding" against her cloak?
IS hela as stong and fast as Diana? Can Hela shake off the magic lasso or the sword of hephestious? Is Hela as skilled warrior as Diana? Does she have what it takes to break thru the Shield of Aegis. All things considered, they have the goods to put each other down. 5/5. Of course since the Odin force runs rampant on this forum worse than the Force rabid fanboyism of starwars, anything Asgardian seems to just get gauranteed wins around here. 😱
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IS hela as stong and fast as Diana? Can Hela shake off the magic lasso or the sword of hephestious? Is Hela as skilled warrior as Diana? Does she have what it takes to break thru the Shield of Aegis. All things considered, they have the goods to put each other down. 5/5. Of course since the Odin force runs rampant on this forum worse than the Force rabid fanboyism of starwars, anything Asgardian seems to just get gauranteed wins around here. 😱
You demand and beg for respect, yet you continually post garbage such as this. ❌