Ultimate Nullifier vs. Infinity Gauntlet?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
In one instance, your phsyical form is nullified. In another instance, your physical form and your entire existence from reality/eternity is nullified. Which type of nullification is more potent?

Or... is there no difference involved here? You can feel free to argue with Black Bolt Z and Mr Master and quanchi112 about this. Nullification can just nullify your physical existence. It can also nullify you from ever having existed in the first place, which would rewrite reality itself.

^ Other than all the on-panel statements? You can freely argue with Black Bolt Z, Mr Master and quanchi112 over this.

Otherwise, you've also forgotten that a single blast can destroy and recreate. Even the entire Marvel Multiverse.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You don't even understand my point. The CCUs could not only beat the ability Quasar used, but based on feats could beat the one reed used as well. I already showed you how the CCUs were multiversal, and have showings on level with what Reed did. You continue, however, to act like my only claim here is ABC logic. Not so. Based on FEATS, 5 CCUs are above the UN. Therefore, the IG is as well.

Iron-Man/XO mini. Fragment of CCU is destroying multiple multiverses.

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's true.

I wouldn't call that "proof" (because Magus was not using the CCUs at full potential. In other showings, they have power that should easily be sufficient for that task). But yes, that's true.

Actually, it was not on-panel. It was off-panel. As soon as Eternity/Infinity appears, the scene cuts away, and we have no idea what transpired except that Warlock and Et/In beat Magus somehow. Warlock could have taken control of the IG, Et/In could have beat him down, there's no knowing.

You wouldn't call it proof although you've used Magus' statements to prove your arguments beforehand? Nice attempt hoping your double-standard wouldn't be pointed out.

... you are hopeless. Warlock was already struggling with Magus for the IG. Why would Warlock then let go of the IG... and reveal that 616 Eternity/Infinity resided in him in the epic climax, where Magus' eyes go wide in horror and... somehow Warlock is actually the one who beats him off-panel. You can't even countenance posting the 4-5 pages that I'm speaking of, can you?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrong.

I don't "think" it, it's what's shown IN COMICS.

And clearly every single CCU must be equal to each other. Because if CCUs aren't created equal, then maybe the 5 CCUs in Infinity War aren't as powerful... But no. They must be at least as powerful. That is the ultimate logic you're relying on now, correct? Ok, just look below to where this leads:

Originally posted by King Kandy
You are still highly flawed in your way of organizing this. A complete IG (what Magus thought he had) is superior to any number of CCUs used at full potential (not through machines). How an incomplete IG (what he actually had) would stack up against CCUs being used to their full power is anyone's guess.

That WOULD be true, except that judging by feats 5 CCUs could easily defeat the multiverse-sized UN blast as well.

You think the 5 CCUs could easily defeat the multiverse-wide blast because a CCU fragment showed multiverse+ power. Except... that CCU isn't the same as the ones in Infinity War.

But I guess every artifact must be equal to each other... alternate versions notwithstanding. Ok. So logically... every IG is created equal. And we've already seen alternate IGs clearly limited to their universe. So the 616 IG must be universal only. And UN is superior in power to somethign that's only universal. CCUs notwithstanding. This is your logic. Perfectly extrapolated. Nice job using logic that completely rejects the premise you were trying for.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Other than all the on-panel statements? You can freely argue with Black Bolt Z, Mr Master and quanchi112 over this.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Otherwise, you've also forgotten that a single blast can destroy and recreate. Even the entire Marvel Multiverse.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Very simply, even granting your premise (which I've done several times over for many posters in this thread alone), you are assuming every CCU is created the same and has the same level of power. Because that CCU fragment wasn't even in Infinity War... but you're projecting its power onto them anyway. Is that it? All CCUs are the same? Ok. Let's move on: Surely.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You wouldn't call it proof although you've used Magus' statements to prove your arguments beforehand? Nice attempt hoping your double-standard wouldn't be pointed out.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... you are hopeless. Warlock was already struggling with Magus for the IG. Why would Warlock then let go of the IG... and reveal that 616 Eternity/Infinity resided in him in the epic climax, where Magus' eyes go wide in horror and... somehow Warlock is actually the one who beats him off-panel. You can't even countenance posting the 4-5 pages that I'm speaking of, can you? Right.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And clearly every single CCU must be equal to each other. Because if CCUs aren't created equal, then maybe the 5 CCUs in Infinity War aren't as powerful... But no. They must be at least as powerful. That is the ultimate logic you're relying on now, correct? Ok, just look below to where this leads: Actually, Magus already stated on-panel that the IG's power far surpassed the 5 CCUs. And it was proven so.

You think the 5 CCUs could easily defeat the multiverse-wide blast because a CCU fragment showed multiverse+ power. Except... that CCU isn't the same as the ones in Infinity War.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
But I guess every artifact must be equal to each other... alternate versions notwithstanding. Ok. So logically... every IG is created equal. And we've already seen alternate IGs clearly limited to their universe. So the 616 IG must be universal only. And UN is superior in power to somethign that's only universal. CCUs notwithstanding. This is your logic. Perfectly extrapolated. Nice job using logic that completely rejects the premise you were trying for.

BTW, the gems actually have displayed multiversal power, even in the absense of any comparisons to other artifacts: during the ultraverse saga, two gems alone were causing the destruction of the multiverse.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'd rather not, because from my experience arguing with any of those three is always a futile experience.

I didn't forget it. It's just irrelevant.

Right. A blast that nullifies/recreates isn't different from a blast that nullifies only. I forgot.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I am assuming that. There's nothing in comics that would lead me to believe they come in different power levels, especially since it's already been established that different users cause them to have different capabilities. They all go through the same life cycle, why would they be variant?

I wouldn't call the world-merging feat proof on it's own. I do however believe that statements make it a clear fact that IG>CCU, so I don't know what you're thinking my double standard is here.

So if an incomplete IG accomplished a feat instantly that 5 CCUs couldn't for hours upon hours... what does that mean about their respective power.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm not the one who this idea originated from. Darthgoober and others, I know believe it as well. Consider, as soon as Eternity/Infinity appears, Warlock is leaping at Magus. What is he doing, if not attempting to intervene in some way?

Yeah, but they have the same power. Why would you think that all five of those CCUs just happened to be the same in power, but somehow the ones Magus didn't have weren't? All known variance in power has been explained in comics as resulting from the difference in wielder. Similar to the reason why Molecule Man could beat Kubik, even though they have exactly equal power.

You're deflecting. I see EXACTLY what you're doing. I'm not saying the 5 CCUs are different from each other. I'm saying that its possible they don't equal the same power as the CCU fragment from Iron Man/X-O Manowar. Is this possible? Or no? Your ENTIRE argument hinges upon this. Answer the question.

Originally posted by King Kandy
The IG is limited in scope to one universe, but it still has power that is superior to multiversal forces. Similar to how beings can be "omnipotent" in their home dimension but be powerless when they leave. Just because it doesn't function in other universes doesn't mean its power is less than things that can. A CCU can work in other universes, but nobody would argue one is stronger than a complete IG.

BTW, the gems actually have displayed multiversal power, even in the absense of any comparisons to other artifacts: during the ultraverse saga, two gems alone were causing the destruction of the multiverse.

Bullsh1t. When in the Ultraverse, they only rewrote the Ultraverse. Post the scans if you care to.

I mean, seriously. These are the BEST arguments you guys have?

"Magus never used the 5 CCUs to their full potential, because they were dangerous. But Quasar used the UN to its fullest potential... even though it was equally, if not moreso, dangerous... and he consciously limited its power on-panel..."

"You can nullify the physical form of something. You can, as a different alternative, nullify the physical form AND the complete existence ever of something. But that is not different at all."

"There is no real difference between a slowly expanding marble-sized sphere and an instantaneous Multiverse-wide nullification/recreation blast."

"Dealing with an infinitesimal manifestation of an artifact's power = complete dominance over that artifact (EXCEPT for Maelstrom no-selling IG and Iron Man destroying the Star Gem)."

"616 Eternity/Infinity >>>>>>>>>> Multi-Eternity."

"Every CCU has the same power. Because somehow... every artifact across the alternate universes is the same. But the IG, and alternate IGs, somehow escapes this arbitrary rule."

"IG's universal dominance >>>>>>>>>>>>> multiversal power."

OR... nothing from the above is as dumb as it looks. Somehow... I'm missing the point.

Let me ask you guys something... what is so attractive about the IG? Thanos himself, because nearly everybody agrees he beats Superman straight up and you actually hate Superman? So that anything Thanos-related you must support no matter how far removed it is from Thanos himself? OR is it the different colors of the Gems and they're really pretty? OR is it that the Infinity Gauntlet was the first real storyline you read because you're just that young? OR is it some intrinsic hatred towards anything Galactus/FF related? OR is it that you have believed it for so long that it is embarassing to think otherwise now when it is so clear?

Seriously... what is it? I want to understand you. Exactly like I want to understand a dumb hot blonde with a tight a$$-hole. So I can f__k that sh_t right up the a__. Help me out here.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"Magus never used the 5 CCUs to their full potential, because they were dangerous. But Quasar did... even though they were equally dangerous..."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"You can nullify the physical form of something. You can, as a different alternative, nullify the physical form AND the complete existence ever of something. But that isn't actually different."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"There is no real difference between a slowly expanding marble-sized sphere and an instantaneous Multiverse-wide nullification/recreation blast."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
"616 Eternity/Infinity >>>>>>>>>> Multi-Eternity."

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's something Magus SAID in the comic.

More like "There's no evidence the UN actually has those two separate options to choose between."

Nobody ever said this, at least not in the sense this line would imply.

That's just something you projected on my arguments and i've shown you multiple times why that is not at all a natural consequence of my arguments.

Just like there's no evidence that a single blast can nullify and recreate as opposed to simply nullify? Even though that happened on-panel on a multiversal scale?

Just because your cohorts are using this argument as the entire basis for their position doesn't mean you can escape this idiocy. If I have to deal with it, so do you.

Objection: bullsh1t. 616 Eternity/Infinity beat an incomplete IG. Magus SAID in a comic that IG beats the power of 5 CCUs. And he actually proved so on-panel when he merged a shadowy dimension instantly, whereas 5 CCUs would have taken hours upon hours. EVEN THOUGH... it was only an incomplete IG.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's something Quasar SAID in the comic. Quasar said he could not let the UN's power expand out of his control. He said it. IN THE COMIC. What? What?! WHAT?!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Just like there's no evidence that a single blast can nullify and recreate as opposed to simply nullify?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Just because your cohorts are using this argument as the entire basis for their position doesn't mean you can escape this idiocy. If I have to deal with it, so do you.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Objection: bullsh1t. 616 Eternity/Infinity beat an incomplete IG. Magus SAID in a comic that IG beats the power of 5 CCUs. And he actually proved so on-panel when he merged a shadowy dimension instantly, whereas 5 CCUs would have taken hours upon hours.

Eternity/Infinity had something to do with the defeat of Magus. There is nothing proving they just overpowered him.

Magus said the IG is > CCUs... when he thought that the IG he had was complete. Like Thanos said, Magus only had the illusion of omnipotence.

The IG did better than 5 CCUs that were being used at much less than their full potential.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I know. And what does that prove? Nothing, because the UNs best feat isn't better than the CCUs best feat, or two infinity gems best feat.

No, there IS proof it can do that. So it's not really similar. Just because you have proof of one thing the UN can do, doesn't mean you can decide it has any property you want and expect me to believe it.

And you have now just admitted that the energy in a UN blast can be different and therefore a UN user can choose two separate options. So now you can argue with Black Boltz Z and KuRuPt Thanosi on whether a UN can emit a less potent or more potent blast. Have fun with that. Or don't... because you're terrified of undermining your overall position. Yeah. Your lack of confidence in your position isn't completely transparent now.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You aren't reading what I write. I said NOBODY (in the whole thread) ever claimed that. You just applied it as a strawman argument to people who were saying more subtle things that sort of sounded like it to you.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Wrong on three different counts.

Eternity/Infinity had something to do with the defeat of Magus. There is nothing proving they just overpowered him.

Magus said the IG is > CCUs... when he thought that the IG he had was complete. Like Thanos said, Magus only had the illusion of omnipotence.

The IG did better than 5 CCUs that were being used at much less than their full potential.

Magus was defeated and was wide-eyed in horror as soon as Warlock revealed that 616 Eternity/Infinity resided inside of him and confronted Magus. GO AHEAD AND POST THE SCANS.

And Magus with an incomplete IG still accomplished instantly, what 5 CCUs would have needed hours upon hours to do... merging a shadowy version onto a single universe. This is on-panel. DO YOU DENY THAT? Answer the question.

You mean... the 5 CCUs which you assume for no reason whatsoever, are equally as powerful as an alternate CCU fragment. Although, by that same arbitrary and ignorant token, I could just assume that those 5 CCUs are equally as powerful as the exhausted one that drained itself knocking out Thanos. Although, by that same arbitrary and ignorant token, I could also assume that an alternate IG which is CLEARLY universal automatically makes the 616 IG universal also.

But then again... you already stated that the IG's universal dominance >>>>>>> multiversal power. So smart. Why.... you covered all the bases didn't you?

I would love for you to find a quote from me saying ALL the un can is nullify.. Please do so.. since you're claiming I've said this or concede I never did.

Also provide any quote where I said a slowly expanding sphere is the same as the "multiversal reset" (which can be argued) or concede I never did. Really simple but don't lie about what I said and didn't say because your arguing isn't strong enough.

The UN can nullify and recreate thing.. it can nullify somebody out of existence totally as if they were never here. I have never once argued against this. My point is, there isn't ONE SHRED of evidence that says any of these differing properties takes more forces to oversome. There is NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that says it takes more energy to resist being totally wipe out of existence or just nullified. There isn't even proof that is take more energy from the UN to do either. If by your claim it can in an instant nullify and reset the multiverse.. seems like you think what you want and it happens. Period. You have zero proof it takes more energy to do either one. However, even granting your unsubstantiated premise... You have zero proof it takes more energy or power to resist nullification or being totally wiped out from existence. Commmon sense tells us that you are probably having to resist the same forces. Period. On panel proof sides with me... not the conjecture you'are trying to use. PLEASE PROVIDE PROOF OF ANY OF THE CONJECTURE YOU KEEP ON SPOUTING. PLEASE ANY PROOF. You have NONE, and that really bothers you doesn't it.

Futhermore, you also have zero proof that quasar didn't intend to wipe Thanos totally from existence forever. Zero. Thus he could've used this increased potency you're claiming can occur. You have zero proof this wasn't the type fired. Regardless, that isn't increasing the nullification potency that is increasing the scope of the nullification. Do you understand the difference there? That is increasing scope and scale not potency. The potency remains the same. Answer me this simple question...

1. Lets say we have planet X. In one instance planet X is just nullified.. nothing more. In another instance... a whole galaxy is erased which planet X is apart of. So is it your stance that planet x in scenerio B is nullified more potently i.e. the nullification forces applied to planet x are far greater than when just planet x is nullified? I'm going to love this answer....

Lastly, as stated before and you just can't get around this point. Thanos with the IG has EXPONENTIAL wiggle room even if we accept your premise. What we know is that is was SO SO EASY for Magus to defeat the nullification energies of the UN. So easy in fact that all it took was a mere thought. This from an incomplete IG even. So what can we logical deduce from this... That anybody with the IG has an EXPONENTIAL amount of wiggle room to deal with any increase in energy and potency (that you have no on panel backing for regardless). Therefore, even if we accept your conjecture you still lose the argument. You have NO proof or counter for the fact that it was already THAT EASY and thus you have no proof it couldn't deal with more energy or potency when it was already that easy. Please provide ANY proof that this conjecture you're talking about would be more then a complete IG with someone trying to the best of their abilities wouldn't be enough. Ooo that's right you have no proof of anything you're talking about... I forgot.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The UN can nullify and recreate thing.. it can nullify somebody out of existence totally as if they were never here. I have never once argued against this.

You said the energies couldn't possibly be different. Your entire premise is a contradiction: (i) the UN has different nullification effects, but they're not different effects; (ii) and because they're not different effects, the energies will be the same type or potency no matter what;(iii) and if Magus could manipulate a marble-sized amount of those energies which always stay the same, he can manipulate any amount of them no matter what.

None of that sh1t makes sense. And it's an insult to intelligence to think so. Actually... it's an insult to retards also. The UN's energies can obviously be different based on how the UN user uses it. And frankly, Quasar was a poor user at it.

Don't conflate Quasar's sh1ttyness with the UN's effectiveness or true power. Don't conflate a marble-sized amount of energy to the UN's effectiveness or true power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The "fatal flaw" in my argument is that I haven't proven there's really any difference between a slowly expanding marble-sized nullification sphere and an instantaneous Multiverse-wide destroying/recreating blast? This is the "fatal flaw"?

Sorry sir, but you've mistaken me for someone who speaks retard.

So like always you don't concede I never said any such thing you're claiming I did and you were just lying. Cool.

Then as usual you have zero proof of any of the conjecture you're claiming.. no surprise.

Lastly, as usual you don't address the questions I asked because they expose your silly conjecture for what it is.

Not sure how this thread has gone on this long...The IG pwns the UN with the greatest of ease. That is what we've seen on panel and they have never ever met again. All the conjecture, twisting and bs doesn't change the IG stomping the UN with ease

^ It's one OR the other. You can't possibly think that the UN energies' potency can never change... yet at the same time recognize that the UN can achieve different effects. That's a COMPLETE contradiction in, and of, itself. If there are different effects... there are different causes. You can't have three completely different alternative results occur... when the energies' properties never change!

Zero proof? I have to prove that the UN's different effects are different?

Your questions are precipitated upon sheer LUNACY. How do you act like the UN can't shoot out differing, or more potent, or less potent, or distinct energies... when the UN can do AT LEAST three different things (even ignoring the vast range of speeds and scales at which it achieves those three different things)?!

It's gone on this long because you guys are Thanos butt-hurt. And it is one of the most spectacular displays of butt-hurt I've ever seen. You guys are crossing your arms (smugly) based on the fact that I haven't proven that different things are different. I haven't proven that different things are different? This is the stupidest argument I have ever had to deal with on KMC. Bar none.

Y'know what... let's try an exercise here. Let's use pretty pictures instead of words. Look carefully now. Is the thing that the UN fired in the first picture, different from the thing that the UN fired in the second picture? Are they different? Yes or no?

A.

_________________________________________

B.

Do you not see a difference? This isn't meant to be some optical illusion test here. Just tell me, is there a difference?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's one OR the other. You can't possibly think that the UN energies' potency can never change... yet at the same time recognize that the UN can achieve different effects. That's a COMPLETE contradiction in, and of, itself. If there are different effects... there are different causes. You can't have three completely different alternative results occur... when the energies' properties never change!

Zero proof? I have to prove that the UN's [b]different effects are different?

Your questions are precipitated upon sheer LUNACY. How do you act like the UN can't shoot out differing, or more potent, or less potent, or distinct energies... when the UN can do AT LEAST three different things (even ignoring the vast range of speeds and scales at which it achieves those three different things)?!

It's gone on this long because you guys are Thanos butt-hurt. And it is one of the most spectacular displays of butt-hurt I've ever seen. You guys are crossing your arms (smugly) based on the fact that I haven't proven that different things are different. I haven't proven that different things are different? This is the stupidest argument I have ever had to deal with on KMC. Bar none. [/B]

There is ZERO contradiction what-so-ever. It's you who can't have it both ways.. Another fatal flaw in your argument is your own touting of a feat over and over again... If Reed can use the nullifier to INSTANTLY nullify and recreate the universe.. then it apears to be that easy. There wasn't any more work required.. the UN didn't have to build up more energies it simply did it instantly. That is why we come to the conclusion that you give the UN and order and it does it. It doesn't require all this more effort by the user or the UN. It just gets the job done INSTANTLY. That is why you have ZERO proof that more energy is needed or released at all. Certainly EVER LESS proof that this more supposed energy is going towards making it more difficult to resist nullifcation. Answer the question already...

1. Lets say we have planet X. In one instance planet X is just nullified.. nothing more. In another instance... a whole galaxy is erased which planet X is apart of. So is it your stance that planet x in scenerio B is nullified more potently i.e. the nullification forces applied to planet x are far greater than when just planet x is nullified? I'm going to love this answer....

2. Is it also your stance that if somebody fires a universal destroying blast at lets say Thanos.. It's set to destroying everything in that universe including Thanos. Is it your view that the more energy is going towards nullifying him quicker and more extremly and not towards the increased area (more people more matter more planets) This supposed more energy is OBVIOUSLY going towards the increased scale. However, I'm curious since you disagree where you think it's going...

3. If such a universal destroying blast is fired.. you keep claiming more energy is needed to resist it.. So is it your stance that Thanos would have to prevent the destruction of other people and planets and stuff and not just himself... Is that your ludicris stance? Or do you concede that Thanos would still only have to fight the energies directed AT HIM and him ALONE. Which is exactly why it wouldn't require more power to resist so you woudl only be concerned about the same nullifcation of yourself just as if he just shot it at you.

^Are you saying that it doesn't matter who operates the UN? Just because Reed made it look easy doesn't mean it was easy. Also you've yet to really explain how it makes sense that the same amount of energy is needed to nullify a marble as is needed to nullify a Universe or Multiverse.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There is ZERO contradiction what-so-ever. It's you who can't have it both ways.. Another fatal flaw in your argument is your own touting of a feat over and over again... If Reed can use the nullifier to INSTANTLY nullify and recreate the universe.. then it apears to be that easy. There wasn't any more work required.. the UN didn't have to build up more energies it simply did it instantly. That is why we come to the conclusion that you give the UN and order and it does it. It doesn't require all this more effort by the user or the UN. It just gets the job done INSTANTLY. That is why you have ZERO proof that more energy is needed or released at all. Certainly EVER LESS proof that this more supposed energy is going towards making it more difficult to resist nullifcation. Answer the question already...

I'm stupid to think that it takes more power to nullify AND recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse than just simply nullifying a tiny marble?

This is the "fatal flaw" in my argument? crackers

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^Are you saying that it doesn't matter who operates the UN? Just because Reed made it look easy doesn't mean it was easy. Also you've yet to really explain how it makes sense that the same amount of energy is needed to nullify a marble as is needed to nullify a Universe or Multiverse.

So you want me to prove a negative... That's the problem Omega this has NEVER been stated on panel. So what exactly do you want me to prove. There hasn't been one shred of evidence that suggest it takes more energy to do so... there isn't one artistic depiction or narration of the UN having to build up more power in order to nullify more. Nothing, nada ziltch. Even if I agree that it does require more energy to do so... there is even less evidence and lack of logic to think that a larger scale nullification... nullifies things more potently

Answer this question that ODG keeps on avoiding...

1. Lets say we have planet X. In one instance planet X is just nullified.. nothing more. In another instance... a whole galaxy is erased which planet X is apart of. So is it your stance that planet x in scenerio B is nullified more potently i.e. the nullification forces applied to planet x are far greater than when just planet x is nullified? I'm going to love this answer....

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No more energy is required to nullify a marble as is required to nullify AND THEN RECREATE an entire Multiverse?

I'm stupid to think that it takes more power to nullify AND recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse than just simply nullifying a tiny marble?

This is the "fatal flaw" in [b]my argument? crackers [/B]

As usual you avoid the questions I asked because they tool your whole premise and conclusion. Thanks for the concession as usual ODG. Let me know when you actually can answer the questions.

I never did more energy wasn't released I said there is ZERO proof that his is the case. That is all speculation and conjecture on your part. It could be true and it could be logical this is the case because you're increasing the scale. Never had a real issue with that. However, what I do have an issue with and what amuses me greatly is you think things are nullified more potently when you increase scale. The energy goes to the MORE STUFF needing to be nullified. Doesn't mean each and everything in the larger scale nullification is nullified more extremly and potently lol. That is just idiotic and amuses me you take that stance. Just like it further amuses me that you think someone with the IG would have to resist all the nullfication going on around hm and NOT JUST what is directly effecting him lol. These are the reason you won't answer my question because they expose how flawed and illogical your argument really is.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you want me to prove a negative... That's the problem Omega this has NEVER been stated on panel. So what exactly do you want me to prove. There hasn't been one shred of evidence that suggest it takes more energy to do so... there isn't one artistic depiction or narration of the UN having to build up more power in order to nullify more. Nothing, nada ziltch.

... we have to prove that it takes more power to nullify AND RECREATE the entire Marvel Multiverse than it takes to nullify a single tiny marble?

crackers