Ultimate Nullifier vs. Infinity Gauntlet? · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I heard you say that about 20 times.You were the one that said it knows no bounds.

I was saying it because quanchi112 used a no limits fallacy to suggest that the IG could match the UN's feat of instantly destroying/recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse because it hasn't shown any limits yet.

And while he ignored Maelstrom and eventually recanted the claim, I simply used his same no limits fallacy to defuse that argument, i.e., the UN hasn't shown any limits yet so it nullifies the entire Omniverse+LT+TOAA.

The stupidity of such a conclusion reveals the inherent stupidity of using that no limits fallacy. Those statements were intended to halt any use of a no limits fallacy for the IG's benefit. Didn't work so much with the spam-fest, as it apparently couldn't be grasped (or was just ignored) so that's why it was said 20+ times or whatever.

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I was saying it because quanchi112 used a no limits fallacy to suggest that the IG could match the UN's feat of instantly destroying/recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse because it hasn't shown any limits yet.
And while he ignored Maelstrom and eventually recanted the claim, I simply used his same no limits fallacy to defuse that argument, i.e., the UN hasn't shown any limits yet so it nullifies the entire Omniverse+LT+TOAA.
The stupidity of such a conclusion reveals the inherent stupidity of using that no limits fallacy. Those statements were intended to halt any use of a no limits fallacy for the IG's benefit. Didn't work so much with the spam-fest, as it apparently couldn't be grasped (or was just ignored) so that's why it was said 20+ times or whatever.

Just saying this:You say it nullifies TOAA but if TOAA chose it couldn't nullify a pebble.The thing about the UN is that they can only increase it in power.The IG has been deemed to work no longer so they can never make it any stronger.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

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Are you not understanding that "UN > Omniverse/LT/TOAA" statement was meant only to reflect the stupidity of using a no-limit fallacy for the IG? crackers

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
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Are you not understanding that "UN > Omniverse/LT/TOAA" statement was meant only to reflect the stupidity of using a no-limit fallacy for the IG? crackers

Yes I know what quan was saying about "well Ig hasn't been shown to do it et so prove it can't" argument.I'm confused...I was up till 1 am last night and have woke up at 9...i'll be back tomorrow when i acctually understand what others and myself are talking about.

Original Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes I know what quan was saying about "well Ig hasn't been shown to do it et so prove it can't" argument.I'm confused...I was up till 1 am last night and have woke up at 9...i'll be back tomorrow when i acctually understand what others and myself are talking about.

Oh noes, not only 8 hours of sleep. That's terrible....

I miss being 13

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Oh noes, not only 8 hours of sleep. That's terrible....
I miss being 13

Not that but the fact that currently,form where I am.Have been up for like 15 hrs.

Mindset Senior Member

lol, is that long?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes I know what quan was saying about "well Ig hasn't been shown to do it et so prove it can't" argument.I'm confused...I was up till 1 am last night and have woke up at 9...i'll be back tomorrow when i acctually understand what others and myself are talking about.

That's... that's actually his negative proof fallacy. crackers

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Blast! You've foiled my efforts yet again! durhulk

TheTyrant New member

What would stop the IG from controlling the UN's energies and reverting them back at Galactus?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ The same thing that stops Human Torch from controlling the Earth's Sun.

Common sense.

Original Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not that but the fact that currently,form where I am.Have been up for like 15 hrs.

So, you woke up at 9 AM and stayed up til midnight?

Geez, boy, you must be tuckered right out. What a long day.

ermm

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by Original Smurph
So, you woke up at 9 AM and stayed up til midnight?
Geez, boy, you must be tuckered right out. What a long day.
ermm

It's not that i've been up for a while and am tired it the reason why I am up.I was up until 1 am last night at a concert for the bands bonerama and the blasters.

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by Original Smurph
So, you woke up at 9 AM and stayed up til midnight?
Geez, boy, you must be tuckered right out. What a long day.
ermm

😂

Original Smurph tu quoqumber

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It's not that i've been up for a while and am tired it the reason why I am up.I was up until 1 am last night at a concert for the bands bonerama and the blasters.

I've never heard of them, but obviously they're pretty hardcore if you're so exhausted the next day. You musta been right up in that mosh pit, eh? Probably a regular crowd surfer.

Also, I'm just being a prick now. Go to bed.

Mindset Senior Member

lmao smurph

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I've never heard of them, but obviously they're pretty hardcore if you're so exhausted the next day. You musta been right up in that mosh pit, eh? Probably a regular crowd surfer.
Also, I'm just being a prick now. Go to bed.

seriously look them up on youtube.Bonerama is pretty good.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I was saying it because quanchi112 used a no limits fallacy to suggest that the IG could match the UN's feat of instantly destroying/recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse because it hasn't shown any limits yet.
And while he ignored Maelstrom and eventually recanted the claim, I simply used his same no limits fallacy to defuse that argument, i.e., the UN hasn't shown any limits yet so it nullifies the entire Omniverse+LT+TOAA.
The stupidity of such a conclusion reveals the inherent stupidity of using that no limits fallacy. Those statements were intended to halt any use of a no limits fallacy for the IG's benefit. Didn't work so much with the spam-fest, as it apparently couldn't be grasped (or was just ignored) so that's why it was said 20+ times or whatever.

Seeing as we have a direct comparison and the ig came away as much more powerful what is so far fetched about it matching the power required here? It's also been described as absolute power before. Do I need to post the definitions side by side so you can figure out what that means.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ The same thing that stops Human Torch from controlling the Earth's Sun.
Common sense.

So even though we have seen stories suggest that the power gem has no limits we assume this is it's limit? Seriously?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by quanchi112
Seeing as we have a direct comparison and the ig came away as much more powerful what is so far fetched about it matching the power required here? It's also been described as absolute power before. Do I need to post the definitions side by side so you can figure out what that means.
So even though we have seen stories suggest that the power gem has no limits we assume this is it's limit? Seriously?

Yes. IG is a lot more powerful than a tiny sphere of nullification in an outdated story. Clearly. And Ironman is more powerful than the combined power of the Infinity Gems in an outdated story.

Hey Black bolt z, this is the no limits fallacy I was talking about. 😂

Naturally the response is, though we have seen stories suggest that the UN has no limits we assume that it can't nullify Omniverse/LT/TOAA?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yes. IG is a lot more powerful than a tiny sphere of nullification in an outdated story. Clearly. And Ironman is more powerful than the combined power of the Infinity Gems in an outdated story.
Hey Black bolt z, this is the no limits fallacy I was talking about. 😂
Naturally the response is, though we have seen stories suggest that the UN has no limits we assume that it can't nullify Omniverse/LT/TOAA?

Again, what do we have to suggest that we ignore the actual comparison? Hmmmm?

The power gem has been described as having no limits has the un?

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

^ A new story that reveals the true power of the UN: Abraxas story. dur

Yes. 😂

Now say it: "I'm quanchi112, and I believe that the UN nullifying a small marble is just as powerful a feat as nullifying AND RECREATING the entire Marvel Multiverse." arrrgh