Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err, the censor will make that one hard to lay out. There's the words "College" and "Fest" in there.
Originally posted by BackFire
I actually like when there's a pornstar I recognize on Bang Bus or Chick Trick or whatever, makes it all exciting.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf😆
It kills the mood for me to know they're doing it for the money and not actual fun.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Regardless, your example was not appropriate and hence you've not established a good basis for that law.
Why not? In both situations you don't know what you're signing why and what the result is therefor you shouldn't be allowed to sign it.
That one passes is completely irrelevant, you still aren't thinking straight when you sign the paper.
But in one situation you knowingly put yourself in a position where your judgment might be compromised. Therefore you have a measure of accountability that you do NOT have if mentally disabled. This much should be clear, there are large and obvious differences that make your comparison poor.
It's the same reason sleeping with a drunk person is not normally considered rape just because said person regrets it later.
As far as I know, with most contract law drink only invalidates it if it is reasonable that a person was so drunk as to not actually understand the contract (i.e. unable to legally contract), not because their judgment was impaired.
After all, if you get blind drunk and buy something stupid at a shop, you may well be stuck with it.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
The thing is that drunk people do do things they wouldn't normally do if they weren't drunk. I'm sure we've all done something stupid while we were drunk that we later regretted. Although accountabilty does become an issue if we agree to be filmed doing something stupid while drunk.
Lol most weekends apart from the filming, well as far as i know? the truth is out there!
Originally posted by Ushgarak
But in one situation you knowingly put yourself in a position where your judgment might be compromised. Therefore you have a measure of accountability that you do NOT have if mentally disabled. This much should be clear, there are large and obvious differences that make your comparison poor.It's the same reason sleeping with a drunk person is not normally considered rape just because said person regrets it later.
As far as I know, with most contract law drink only invalidates it if it is reasonable that a person was so drunk as to not actually understand the contract (i.e. unable to legally contract), not because their judgment was impaired.
After all, if you get blind drunk and buy something stupid at a shop, you may well be stuck with it.
Of course one is willing and one is not but that's irrelevant when your signing a contract, in both cases you are unable to really know what you are doing and actually if you buy something big like a car or whatever and your drunk then you can actually bring it back and demand your money back, all you need to do is prove that you were drunk.
When you're drunk you're deemed unable to know what the hell you are doing or at leas to truly understand the result of your actions and you are therefor not held accountable to the same level you would be if you were sober.
funny....(still on the hypocrisy note)...someone drinks, gets drunk, drives, kills someone, and its all their fault. no excuses
...someone gets drunk, and finds themselves flashing their **** into a camera, and its all someone elses fault
When you go out drinking and bring a car then you know before you even drink the first beer that you are doing something wrong, and that makes it your fault, this case although I agree that it's stupid is a bit different.
Originally posted by FishyWhen you go out drinking and bring a car then you know before you even drink the first beer that you are doing something wrong, and that makes it your fault, this case although I agree that it's stupid is a bit different.
wrong. you might have intended to only have a couple of beers and a steak and hang out for a few hours till you sobered up...however after that couple of beers you were impaired enough to lack the judgement to not have another....and another. a domino effect of impaired judgement.
however that is irrelevant to the law and always assumed that whoever drinks and drives made a conscious and sober decision to do so. however anyone who has drinken to excess knows that there are plenty of times you can go out drinking to the exact scenario that i pointed out.
but lets be real. when you go out drinking its your responsibility to pace yourself and if not, have someone at least semi-sober to babysit you and whoever else is with you. if not, then you are running into a scene of strangers completely stripped naked of your wits, which btw in the case of these bimbos was a conscious decision to do so.
Originally posted by PVS
wrong. you might have intended to only have a couple of beers and a steak and hang out for a few hours till you sobered up...however after that couple of beers you were impaired enough to lack the judgement to not have another....and another. a domino effect of impaired judgement.however that is irrelevant to the law and always assumed that whoever drinks and drives made a conscious and sober decision to do so. however anyone who has drinken to excess knows that there are plenty of times you can go out drinking to the exact scenario that i pointed out.
but lets be real. when you go out drinking its your responsibility to pace yourself and if not, have someone at least semi-sober to babysit you and whoever else is with you. if not, then you are running into a scene of strangers completely stripped naked of your wits, which btw in the case of these bimbos was a conscious decision to do so.
Well that is possible, but you should know your own limits then...Not knowing them and then still taking your car when you want to go drinking is idiotic... Actually drinking when you have a car nearby that you are going to use is always idiotic.
But whatever people should be held accountable for what they do when drunk, after all they made the decision to get drunk in the first place.
Originally posted by Fishy
Well that is possible, but you should know your own limits then...Not knowing them and then still taking your car when you want to go drinking is idiotic... Actually drinking when you have a car nearby that you are going to use is always idiotic.
when you are impaired its difficult to know your limitations, and easy to lose grasp of that personal agreement to not drink to excess. all it takes is a couple of beers.
Originally posted by Fishy
But whatever people should be held accountable for what they do when drunk, after all they made the decision to get drunk in the first place.
exactly!
Originally posted by Fishy
Of course one is willing and one is not but that's irrelevant when your signing a contract, in both cases you are unable to really know what you are doing and actually if you buy something big like a car or whatever and your drunk then you can actually bring it back and demand your money back, all you need to do is prove that you were drunk.
Err, good luck with that, unless you can prove you were almost comatose. You would have to prove you were legally unable to contract, which means being exceptionally drunk. Getting drunk enough to make a mistake doesn't cut it.
You could get out of it if someone took advantage of your drunk state to mis-represent the contract. But that's clearly not the case with these girls.
Fact is, the contract they signed was good and solid and them being drunk does not excuse them one wit, either morally or legally. The only issue here is that they were underage for that kind of agreement.