Ironman vs. Ivisible Woman

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's all very nice. But all very speculative.

It's not complete speculation. He has an entire history of being manipulative to get what he wants. That history gives what I said more substance and foothold towards fact rather than speculation.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's all very nice. But all very speculative.

And this isn't? 🙄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If Spider-Man has time to swing his arm and knock Stark through a wall before he can react, Sue should have time to form a thought and therefore create a forcefield, depending on the distance between them.

The only way Sue has a chance is if she can react before Tony can, and that isn't going to happen....

Originally posted by thedude1948
And this isn't? 🙄

The only way Sue has a chance is if she can react before Tony can, and that isn't going to happen....

It's not speculative in the sense that I'm trying to assign to characters unfounded motivations for what writers and artists have written and drawn.

Apples and oranges. But thank you for playing.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's presumptive in that I don't know the length of time that occurred, and am assuming it sufficient for Sue to erect a forcefield; with the additional qualifier of depending upon the distance between them. How long does it take for Sue to erect a forcefield mayhaps you'd like to inform?

It's not speculative in the sense that I'm trying to assign to characters unfounded motivations for what writers and artists have written and drawn.

Apples and oranges. But thank you for playing.

Now you're just getting desperate. 😬

Switching your syntax and vocabulary from earlier terms such as "decked" to more complicated and needlessly unnecessary terms such "additional qualifier" is not helping your argument.

Sue is not going to react fast enough to stop Extremis Iron Man. Even *if* we take into consideration the fact that Spider-Man managed to unexpectedly punch Iron Man, there's an entire new volume of Iron Man comics that say otherwise.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Now your just getting desperate.

Switching your syntax and vocabulary from earlier terms such as "decked" to more complicated and needlessly unnecessary terms such "additional qualifier" is not helping your argument.

Sue is not going to react fast enough to stop Extremis Iron Man. Even [b]*if* we take into consideration the fact that Spider-Man managed to unexpectedly punch Iron Man, there's an entire new volume of Iron Man comics that say otherwise. [/B]

She should be able to catch a falling ruler in something along the lines of 0.15 s, assuming Sue is in or below the lower quartile of humans considering she's a superhero, this involves the thought in the motor cortex, the transmission of efferent motor information to the arm/fingers, and the movement of the muscles to catch the object. The latter two contributing a relatively substantial proportion of the time taken.

For Sue to erect a forcefield the latter motor actions are unnecessary. Sue erects forcefields by thought.

If Iron Man moves at say Mach 8. At a distance of 50 m he'd hit her before she could erect a forcefield, if it was 200 she should be able to erect a forcefield first. Between that it's iffy.

even if she could create a forcefield before he hit her, would they really be able to stand up to his assault? they are kind of inconsistent.

I give 5/5 depending on the distance. Iron Man's not a true speedblitzer like Flash or Superman. He's very fast though.

Sonics aren't going to work. Especially since she's faced Klaw numerous times.

If Tony manages to tag her before she can erect a field than he wins. If he doesn't than he's in big trouble.

"Did you know I can turn your optic nerves invisible?

Originally posted by Muck101
Allright fanboy(Grey fox). No way in hell does IW win. Im sorry. Not happening. IM 10/10. Think those forcefield pushes'll do anything to Tony? Nu uh. Besides, Tony stark would probably booze her up and womanize her. 😄

Hey N00blar , learn some facts before you opinion your idiot hole. IW can crush Tony like a can and can cause his brain to turn to goo. When you start racking up some posts then you can play with the big boys , now shoo.

perhaps I was overzealous on the 10/10 . Mable a 7/10...

Isn't IW using her forcefields to crush people into paste the same as Superman keeping his heat-vision focused on someone an entire fight? As in it doesn't ever happen?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's all very nice. But all very speculative.

As is IW turning someone's brain into goop or reducing someone to "paste" as somebody stated earlier.

Anyways, Civil War Iron Man does not have Extremis, if i'm not mistaken.

So then they decided the pro-reg/anti-reg thing and split the Avenger into the Mighty Avengers and the New Avengers, but only in Invincible Iron Man and all before the Extremis arc in Iron Man? AFAIK it is Extremis.

IW ftw

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
As is IW turning someone's brain into goop or reducing someone to "paste" as somebody stated earlier.

Anyways, Civil War Iron Man does not have Extremis, if i'm not mistaken.

😆

DO you even KNOW what her powers are , lol.

Speculation is where some idiot thinks Spidey is a gravity manipulator simply because someone once made a statement that his 'Sticking' ability may be due to a minor gravity flux.

What I've been stating is a simple offensive usage for her powers , which BTW she's done before.

Originally posted by grey fox

What I've been stating is a simple offensive usage for her powers , which BTW she's done before.

So you're saying that she's actually turned somebody's brain into goop and reduced somebody into paste?

That's interesting. Care to post a scan or name the issue?

Iron Man has already beat Sue before, so this debate should be a non-issue.

Originally posted by Draco69
I give 5/5 depending on the distance. Iron Man's not a true speedblitzer like Flash or Superman. He's very fast though.

Sonics aren't going to work. Especially since she's faced Klaw numerous times.

If Tony manages to tag her before she can erect a field than he wins. If he doesn't than he's in big trouble.

"Did you know I can turn your optic nerves invisible?

Originally posted by Evangel94
Iron Man has already beat Sue before, so this debate should be a non-issue.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
I'd like to see the scan of her turning someone's optic nerve invisible, because im sure she had to concentrate to perfrom a feat like that. even if she only concentrates for a secound, she's dead.

Ultimate Invisible Woman did it to hundred of heroes and villians in the Zombie universe. She is definetly capable of doing something to that affect. I believe 616 Invisible Woman has done similar things, but not to that extreme.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
I'd like to see the scan of her turning someone's optic nerve invisible, because im sure she had to concentrate to perfrom a feat like that. even if she only concentrates for a secound, she's dead.

In "Enemy of the Stae" She put a force field in Wolverines stomach then turned his optic nerves invisible, with no effort at all.

End of discussion and debate.

They've fought before. She tried to use her forcefields on Iron Man but Iron Man's repulsor rays shatter Invisible Woman's forcefield and scatter the atoms into "nothingness".