Ironman vs. Ivisible Woman

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh no, cupcake. I already knew what a straw man was. But I'm assuming that's what you did to find those links that don't actually go anywhere. How ironic.

The scan is canon, the events that transpire in it are invalid, because of aforementioned reasons.

Iron Man isn't breaking the atoms of her forcefield, because there are no atoms to break.

So now we're onto cakes now? Well OK, pancake.

Scan > Your opinion.

Scan says atoms. I'm going to by what the scan says.

You are free to disagree if you can find a scan stating "hyperspace energy" is part of Sue's shield and not atoms. But a word of advice, don't try to reference wikipedia or any other "prestigious" site that can be user edited for content.

We need real proof! It's either scans to prove me wrong or no go.

Originally posted by Evangel94
So now we're onto cakes now? Well ok, [b]pancake.

Scan > Your opinion.

Scan says atoms. I'm going to by what the scan says.

You are free to disagree if you can find a scan stating "hyperspace energy" is part of Sue's shield and not atoms. But a word of advice, don't try to reference wikipedia.

We need real proof! It's either scans to prove me wrong or no go. [/B]

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1. Yes. And depending on the distance between them that may or may not be fast enough.
2. So?
3. No.
4. No.

Can you explain how even though Iron Man can react faster than Invisible Woman, but somehow can't affect her with sonics or repulsor rays? He can do either with just a thought, Invisible Woman needs to think to form a forcefield so.....

Originally posted by Evangel94
So now we're onto cakes now? Well OK, [b]pancake.

Scan > Your opinion.

Scan says atoms. I'm going to by what the scan says.

You are free to disagree if you can find a scan stating "hyperspace energy" is part of Sue's shield and not atoms. But a word of advice, don't try to reference wikipedia or any other prestigious site that can be edited for content.

We need real proof! It's either scans to prove me wrong or no go.

[/B]

Originally posted by grey fox
Stupid shit happened EVERY issue.

Like IW turning someone's optic nerves invisible? Or placing a forcefield in somebody's stomach with absolutely no effort at all?

So basically we can classify the above feats as PIS.

That being said, Iron Man wins 9/10.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Can you explain how even though Iron Man can react faster than Invisible Woman, but somehow can't affect her with sonics or repulsor rays? He can do either with just a thought, Invisible Woman needs to think to form a forcefield so.....

Assuming IW first thing to do would be to erect a forcefield isn't really.

How fast are the repulsors or sonics may I ask?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Who is 'we'?

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You're actually quoting the Marvel Handbook? That's desperate 😬. What happened to actual "comic" scans. What next? Are you going to be using text from back of collectors cards from the "Marvel Card Game" to decide whose better? Comic scans is what matters here.

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And besides, it says she mentally generates a psionic field of "invisible force" drawn from hyperspace. It doesn't say her fields are made of "hyperspace energy" as you put it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That would of course assume that the very first thing Iron Man does in every single battle is aim and fire repulsor rays or sonics (which would still have to travel a distance anyway) at her, and that the time taken for these to travel is insufficient for her to erect a forcefield. Which is a relatively big assumption.

Assuming IW first thing to do would be to erect a forcefield isn't really.

How fast are the repulsors or sonics may I ask?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How fast are the repulsors or sonics may I ask?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

How fast are the repulsors or sonics may I ask?

The speed of light and sound I would assume.

With IW creating forcefields, etc., at the speed of thought, isn't there an additional amount of time added as well to travel the distance of Iron Man?

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
also, IM suit does not work instantly. Im not saying that it takes a substancial amount of time for him to fire something but when we are counting secounds this is something to take into consideration.

With the extremis virus, the armor's reaction time to Tony is instantaneous with his thought.

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
With the extremis virus, the armor's reaction time to Tony is instantaneous with his thought.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
his suit does not charge to fire a blast at all?

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Originally posted by Brian Oswald
also, IM suit does not work instantly. Im not saying that it takes a substancial amount of time for him to fire something but when we are counting secounds this is something to take into consideration.

Iron Man and his armor react in milliseconds flat now.

1. By the time Crymson Dynamo starts his sentence Iron Man has adjusted to the explosion in 0.004 milliseconds.

2. "It appears you have underestimated ..."
On the word "have" Iron Man has charged an magnetic pulse bolt into his arm in 0.002 milliseconds

3. Iron Man then nails him with the equivalent of a solid steel ball traveling 3,500 feet per second after waiting a total 1.043 seconds to let Crymson Dynamo finish his sentence:

"It appears you have underestimated me Iron Man."

Iron Man isn't exactly slow. He reacts is milliseconds now and even had spare time to give to Dynamo to finish his sentences before nailing him and uppercutting him through the reinforced bank vault and through the cement street.

...Which sends him flying through the bank vault, through he cement street and pavement, high into the air, and slamming him into a construction support beam!

That's alot power he put into just one arm in 0.002 milliseconds flat.

😖hrug:

In the time it takes someone to say "It appears you have" IW can't put up a forcefield?

Originally posted by Evangel94
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You're actually quoting the Marvel Handbook? That's desperate 😬. What happened to actual "comic" scans. What next? Are you going to be using text from back of collectors cards from the "Marvel Card Game" to decide whose better? Comic scans is what matters here.

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And besides, it says she mentally generates a [b]psionic field of "invisible force" drawn from hyperspace. It doesn't say her fields are made of "hyperspace energy" as you put it. [/B]

Psionic energy manipulation. Either way they're composed of hyperspace force or energy not made of atoms.

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
The speed of light and sound I would assume.

With IW creating forcefields, etc., at the speed of thought, isn't there an additional amount of time added as well to travel the distance of Iron Man?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In the time it takes someone to say "It appears you have" IW can't put up a forcefield?

Umm, he did, hence the armor making an adjustment and Tony being none the worse for wear after the explosions. What other adjustment could there have been?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why would a defensive forcefield need to travel a distance to Iron Man?

I wasn't referring to a defensive forcefield. I was more along the lines of creating bubbles, making optic nerves invisible and such.

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
Umm, he did, hence the armor making an adjustment and Tony being none the worse for wear after the explosions. What other adjustment could there have been?

My mistake.