Thanos vs Superman

Originally posted by Allankles
That's because Supes is a......(wait for it)....a hero. What super hero do you know is written to be above every top tier? Also, putting Thanos' history into perspective and ignoring the fact that he's a copy of a god Superman has curb stomped several times, he's abilities are not properly defined.

And that's mainly because almost every impressive thing he does is nothing but a plot device. If a sensible writer/s handle this hypothetical fight Supes IMV has a fifty percent chance of beating Thanos.

There's also the fact that Superman has inexhaustible energy of the God wave to increase his abilities, Thanos won't have gone up against a character with this level of speed, durability and strength. I say Superman potentially wins 4/10

Originally posted by Allankles
That's because Supes is a......(wait for it)....a hero. What super hero do you know is written to be above every top tier? Also, putting Thanos' history into perspective and ignoring the fact that he's a copy of a god Superman has curb stomped several times, he's abilities are not properly defined.

And that's mainly because almost every impressive thing he does is nothing but a plot device. If a sensible writer/s handle this hypothetical fight Supes IMV has a fifty percent chance of beating Thanos.

Saying Superman beats down Darkseid constantly only makes him look like a puss in comparation with Thanos, tho. So far.

Originally posted by olympian
I didnt saw him using any plot device when he beat down some top tiers in his long run. Plus, you realize this is a two way streeth? Superman also relies on plot devices from time to time as well. Lots of characters do.

Saying Superman beats down Darkseid constantly only makes him look like a puss in comparation with Thanos, tho. So far.

And yet when Odin gets beaten down physically by Mangog, his reputation stays intact. Considering that Superman has a FAR greater energy source than Mangog, i don't think its that much of a disservice to Darksieds rep.

Are you somehow giving the ideia that Superman is in someway superior to Mangog?

Mangog is a treat to Odin`s level. Superman isent.

And sure counts as a disservice when some fans try to sell him as above top tier and yet the company has him losing against more than one.

Originally posted by Got da virus
And yet when Odin gets beaten down physically by Mangog, his reputation stays intact. Considering that Superman has a FAR greater energy source than Mangog, i don't think its that much of a disservice to Darksieds rep.

DS has stated on Panel that Superman has grown Stronger. Superman has also had extenuating Circustances when besting DS. Like being Sun amped, having the Source wall do the actual "beating" of DS, Or help from others like WW.

Then when people nowadays sell him as much stronger than the top tier, they are wrong.

eyeknobs hurt.

Originally posted by olympian
Then when people nowadays sell him as much stronger than the top tier, they are wrong.

eyeknobs hurt.

Post crisis was horrible for Darkseid as a whole. He had few stories at that level like CO but generally speaking he was a shell of his former self.

Post IC they still didnt showed up, so the jury is still out. Either they ruin the character for good or get him back to the status he lost.

Originally posted by olympian
Those are far and between generally speaking to be true. Post crisis was horrible for Darkseid as a whole.

Post IC they still didnt showed up, so the jury is still out. Either they ruin the character for good or get him back to his former glory.

DS has already shown up post IC. He has already shown on panel creating Multiple Pocket realities. And DS has many many feats showing that he is many times Superior to any top tier Post Crisis. I do believe even the GDS was post Crisis. Let me check the dates.

Yeah, but i mean after the whole event, on theyr own ongoing. I want to see how the writers will use the guy.

GDS screams pre crisis, but i dont recall the accurate date. Validus was a beast in that era, not so much at post crisis continuity. Not to mention that the Legion has undertaken so many reboots in those years, its even difficult to tell if it still counts.

Originally posted by olympian
Yeah, but i mean after the whole event, on theyr own ongoing. I want to see how the writers will use the guy.

GDS screams pre crisis, but i dont recall the accurate date. Validus was a beast in that era, not so much at post crisis continuity. Not to mention that the Legion has undertaken so many reboots in those years, its even difficult to tell if it still counts.

That story was Post Crisis. What's so funny is that Current Day DS was able to completely Own the GDS Darkseid. SO everything that future DS did pales in comparison to Pre-IC DS. Legion underwent a reboot after zero Hour. But Legion has had so many alternate universe versions and pocket dimension teams that I can't keep up anymore and just stopped reading.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That story was Post Crisis. What's so funny is that Current Day DS was able to completely Own the GDS Darkseid.

Originally posted by olympian
Are you somehow giving the ideia that Superman is in someway superior to Mangog?

Mangog is a treat to Odin`s level. Superman isent.

And sure counts as a disservice when some fans try to sell him as above top tier and yet the company has him losing against more than one.

Superman has acsess to a FAR Greater energy source than Mangog. When all his mental blocks are removed, he probably is indeed stronger, faster and more durable than the Mangog.

Originally posted by olympian
How so? The GDS its one of the higest showings of Darkseid ever written.

Yes but it was Modern Day DS who was able to completely own the GDS DS. That is how he was beating if I remember correctly.

Originally posted by olympian
Yeah, but i mean after the whole event, on theyr own ongoing. I want to see how the writers will use the guy.

GDS screams pre crisis, but i dont recall the accurate date. Validus was a beast in that era, not so much at post crisis continuity. Not to mention that the Legion has undertaken so many reboots in those years, its even difficult to tell if it still counts.

Validus was created by Darksied, Pre Crisis ! 😐

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes but it was Modern Day DS who was able to completely own the GDS DS. That is how he was beating if I remember correctly.

Can you please stop using abbreviations, its making my head bleed trying to comprehend what you are writing, especially with the kid whose first language isn't English.

Originally posted by Got da virus
Can you please stop using abbreviations, its making my head bleed trying to comprehend what you are writing, especially with the kid whose first language isn't English.

Modern Day Darksied was the one who beat the Great Darkness Darkseid. Thus making all of GDS Darkseid's feats pale in comparison to the power to ModernDay DS. It should also be noted the Great Darkness Darkseid had absorbed the power of Mordru ANd the time trapper and still got beaten by his younger more powerself. DS is clearly above sky father being if you use this logic.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Modern Day Darksied was the one who beat the Great Darkness Darkseid. Thus making all of GDS Darkseid's feats pale in comparison to the power to ModernDay DS. It should also be noted the Great Darkness Darkseid had absorbed the power of Mordru ANd the time trapper and still got beaten by his younger more powerself. DS is clearly above sky father being if you use this logic.

Sorry when did the Great Darkness Saga Darksied face Pre Crisis, Or Post Crisis of Infinity Worlds Darksied ?

Originally posted by Got da virus
Sorry when did the Great Darkness Saga Darksied face Pre Crisis, Or Post Crisis of Infinity Worlds Darksied ?

Sorry my mistake, didn't face him that I can find, I was sure he did. I do know that in that comic it was shown or stated that Younger DS was more powerful than Older DS. once I find the scan I'll post it.

Originally posted by Got da virus
Superman has acsess to a FAR Greater energy source than Mangog. When all his mental blocks are removed, he probably is indeed stronger, faster and more durable than the Mangog.

Also, Mangog never beat Odin physically... don't know where you got that from... (your earlier post).
Also, Mangog has never been written at a top tier level... how would this discredit Odin, if Mangog, did indeed beat Odin? It makes no sense...

So... Superman is durible enough to take a full blast by Odin?
Strong enough, to punch out a couple of Thor's enemies (in which he had trouble with), with one punch?
Wait, how is Superman probably faster than Mangog?