Originally posted by AllanklesShields and oh there's this.
Not at all, if all it took to hang with a speedster in cqc was snatching your hand away I'd agree, otherwise it really doesn't show Thanos hanging with some one using speed in a cqc scenario.
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Speed nullified.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Did Thanos cheat himself to lose the IG?Oh and he still retains limitless power. He might be not aware of them or their moves prior to them acting, except he sees them comming, but he is still enchanced thru the IG. His speed might be too.
Yeah but If he can precieve them coming then he can precieve them coming. No one with anywhere close to "human" level mental processing speed would be able to precieve someone barreling towards them from over a lightyear away at a fast enough speed to traverse the lightyear in a second. Hell even someone with lightspeed reflexes wouldn't be able to precieve that kind of thing.
Again, since when did Superman ever use speed without being elusive Quan? Either vibrating through energy and physical attacks or flying straight and then changing direction quickly to avoid any debilitating energy attack.
You've seen him avoid the OB's, own the Elite, own the Crime Syndicate, own Cities full of villains, vibrate through Doomsday's energy and physical attacks and you still think he's walking into Thanos' energy attacks or fists, without at least getting his fair share of licks in?
Thanos has never actually dealt with speed in a cqc scenario. If guys are flying straight into his arms from miles away, how is that dealing with cqc speed?
Originally posted by AllanklesIt doesn't matter. Thanos can repel him each and every time as I have shown he has the reflexes when fighting someone else to react to an unseen threat.
Again, since when did Superman ever use speed without being elusive Quan? Either vibrating through energy and physical attacks or flying straight and then changing direction quickly to avoid any debilitating energy attack.You've seen him avoid the OB's, own the Elite, own the Crime Syndicate, own Cities full of villains, vibrate through Doomsday's energy and physical attacks and you still think he's walking into Thanos' energy attacks or fists, without at least getting his fair share of licks in?
Thanos has never actually dealt with speed in a cqc scenario. If guys are flying straight into his arms from miles away, how is that dealing with cqc speed?
Yes, he has avoided the ob's which proves what? Nothing. Shields prevent Superman from even laying a hand on him. he can bfr him with a blast and we have seen Superman blasted plenty of times/hit plenty of times by DD so don't use one feat as some sort of slaneted proof DD can't tag Superman.
Shields can protect his backside and all his sides. You have no proof of anyone being able to destroy Thanos when going all out using speed so it's another case of you really wanting the Superman to win despite the fact he gets crushed.
Superman has been in with too many powerful guys for me not to see him getting inside on Thanos. From that point it's his fight, cause he's much better than Thanos in h2h for me.
As far as shields go, when has Thanos ever used shields and then attacked with his shields up? In Annhilation I seem to remember him being in somewhat of a stalemate when his force bubble was up, so it's going to prevent from losing but if he has to win, he's going to have to take some risks.
As far as Superman being tagged that's a given, but when he uses his speed he's damn elusive, he doesn't get hit.
And by forum rules he's going to be using his speed, that's his defense. Superman uses speed defensively, either vibrating through energy or weaving into cqc.
Originally posted by AllanklesDo these characters have shields and possess the strength/power of Thanos?
Superman has been in with too many powerful guys for me not to see him getting inside on Thanos. From that point it's his fight, cause he's much better than Thanos in h2h for me.As far as shields go, when has Thanos ever used shields and then attacked with his shields up? In Annhilation I seem to remember him being in somewhat of a stalemate when his force bubble was up, so it's going to prevent from losing but if he has to win, he's going to have to take some risks.
As far as Superman being tagged that's a given, but when he uses his speed he's damn elusive, he doesn't get hit.
And by forum rules he's going to be using his speed, that's his defense. Superman uses speed defensively, either vibrating through energy or weaving into cqc.
He uses shields/tk whatever you describe against the fallen one or against Omega.
By forum rules Thanos uses his shields/tk/forceblock, energy blasts. Superman gets tagged literally all the time and acting like he can avoid everything that comes his way is lying.
I can give example after example of him getting hit.
Thanos downed the Surfer in a few blows and I see the same happening to Superman. I actually see it happening quicker to boot as surfer has superior durability imo than Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do these characters have shields and possess the strength/power of Thanos?He uses shields/tk whatever you describe against the fallen one or against Omega.
By forum rules Thanos uses his shields/tk/forceblock, energy blasts. Superman gets tagged literally all the time and acting like he can avoid everything that comes his way is lying.
I can give example after example of him getting hit.
Thanos downed the Surfer in a few blows and I see the same happening to Superman. I actually see it happening quicker to boot as surfer has superior durability imo than Superman.
Double standard I see. You are saying that Thanos can use everything in his arsenal yet Superman can't use his speed to avoid Thanos attacks.
The only time Superman has been tagged is when he WASN'T using his speed. When Superman is shown to use his speed then nothing was ever shown to hit him (EVER).
Plus who's to say that Thanos gets to launch the first open attack? Superman can launch the first open one and combo him if he connects.
Naughty you.
Originally posted by h1a8
Double standard I see. You are saying that Thanos can use everything in his arsenal yet Superman can't use his speed to avoid Thanos attacks.The only time Superman has been tagged is when he WASN'T using his speed. When Superman is shown to use his speed then nothing was ever shown to hit him (EVER).
Plus who's to say that Thanos gets to launch the first open attack? Superman can launch the first open one and combo him if he connects.
Naughty you.
And you should talk.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Superman speed will not, I repeat his speed will not be an issue. Thanos has fought beings that are faster Superman on a regular basis, Thanos who own Silver Surfer jock strap will utterly f**k up superman, bottom line. Only thing you can say is speed to give Superman an edge which is bs , when Thanos has shown he can handle speedsters and does it with perfection.
Fighting beings faster than Superman (must be proven though) has nothing to do with fighting beings that are actually USING faster speed than Superman can use. For example, Spider-man doesn't always use his speed. Gladiator didn't use his speed when he tried to carry Hulk to space like an idiot.
Thanos has more showings that says he can't keep up with Superman's top speed than showings that say he can. Again, it is not who you fight but what you fight that determines something.
Originally posted by the DarkoneIf I'm guilty of using double standards then point them out. I promise to be humble and see to correct it.
And you should talk.
Originally posted by Allankles
You've seen him avoid the OB's, own the Elite, own the Crime Syndicate, own Cities full of villains, vibrate through Doomsday's energy and physical attacks and you still think he's walking into Thanos' energy attacks or fists, without at least getting his fair share of licks in?
Anyways, I am resuming that the city full of villains are the group of high metas+Bizarro and Mongul that Manchester Black telepathically coerced? They were all old opponents that Superman knew exactly how to beat. They would also have been killed by a single blast from Thanos. Defeating someone on that level doesn't suddenly mean that he's capable of surviving an onslaught from Thanos.
It also seems like dodging and vibrating through things, taxes Superman. It has to be tiring to move so fast that you become intangible. Just strikes me as a sort of tactic that would only work for a while.
Originally posted by h1a8
Fighting beings faster than Superman (must be proven though) has nothing to do with fighting beings that are actually USING faster speed than Superman can use. For example, Spider-man doesn't always use his speed. Gladiator didn't use his speed when he tried to carry Hulk to space like an idiot.Thanos has more showings that says he can't keep up with Superman's top speed than showings that say he can. Again, it is not who you fight but what you fight that determines something.
If I'm guilty of using double standards then point them out. I promise to be humble and see to correct it.
You don't even know the meaning of the word.😉
Thanos since his return has shown to handle beings that travel at great speeds. Thanos unlike Darkseid will use all his powers and intelligence to defeat Superman, it's not always about strength, Thanos will set Superman up for failure everytime.
Originally posted by the Darkone
You don't even know the meaning of the word.😉Thanos since his return has shown to handle beings that travel at great speeds.
You either didn't read my post carefully or you misunderstood it. Because there is no other explanation of why you posted the same thing I defeated.
I have valid opinions and reasoning. If not then you or anyone else should be able easily destroy them and make them appear to be child arguments.
The fact is Superman uses his speed for defense and to connect with a blow to start a combo to ko.
1. Fighting fast beings is not the same as fighting a fast being that is using their top speed.
2. Combo to ko is real and even occurs in comics.
Originally posted by h1a8
You either didn't read my post carefully or you misunderstood it. Because there is no other explanation of why you posted the same thing I defeated.
I read your garbage like everybody else has, and you didnt defeat me or anybody else argument's ! It shows how bias you really are and you cant call spade a spade. It's very overwhelming that people are picking Thanos not because he"s from Marvel, it's a fact that Thanos is that damn good and dosen't pull his punches and marvel doesn't down play him like his counter part Darkseid.
Originally posted by h1a8
I have valid opinions and reasoning. If not then you or anyone else should be able easily destroy them and make them appear to be child arguments.The fact is Superman uses his speed for defense and to connect with a blow to start a combo to ko.
1. Fighting fast beings is not the same as fighting a fast being that is using their top speed.
2. Combo to ko is real and even occurs in comics.
They have been destroyed time and time again, Ur just to recalcitrant to give up and u keep spewing the same old nonsense. HEence the reason no one takes u seriously.
Originally posted by the Darkone
I read your garbage like everybody else has, and you didnt defeat me or anybody else argument's ! It shows how bias you really are and you cant call spade a spade. It's very overwhelming that people are picking Thanos not because he"s from Marvel, it's a fact that Thanos is that damn good and dosen't pull his punches and marvel doesn't down play him like his counter part Darkseid.
I didn't defeat your argument? My argument is garbage? Well let's dissect your argument. You said that Thanos will have no problem with Superman's speed and even be able to hit him since he fought characters who are fast as or faster than Superman. In standard form of your argument we have
Premise1. Thanos has fought and won against beings who can move as fast or faster than Superman
Premise2. Anyone who can fight and win against beings who can move as fast or faster than Superman level can deal with Superman's speed.
Conclusion. Thanos can deal with Superman's speed.
This is a deductive argument which means that if the premises are true then the conclusion is necessarily true. But there is a problem with Premise2. It is possible for one to win against a being who didn't use their Superman level or higher speed and still not be able to actually deal with Superman level speed. Thus Premise2 is false and the argument is invalid.
Originally posted by Naija boy
They have been destroyed time and time again, Ur just to recalcitrant to give up and u keep spewing the same old nonsense. HEence the reason no one takes u seriously.
Come on Naija. You are better than that. You know I can be convinced if someone actually spews out a good argument. I hold no bias towards good arguments but relish them dearly. I may say some seemingly ridiculous things at times but at least you guys get to see my reasoning behind them.
I'm always willing to be civil and discuss the error of my ways of reasoning. Everyone has their good moments and their bad ones too.
Originally posted by h1a8
Come on Naija. You are better than that. You know I can be convinced if someone actually spews out a good argument. I hold no bias towards good arguments but relish them dearly. I may say some seemingly ridiculous things at times but at least you guys get to see my reasoning behind them.
I'm always willing to be civil and discuss the error of my ways of reasoning. Everyone has their good moments and their bad ones too.
Actually no, u have absolutely no good moments. U base ur arguments on nothing and are extremely biased towards particular characters ( or should is ay companies). Good arguments have been presented time and time again but u have failed to accept them out of sheer stubborness nothing more.
