Thanos vs Superman

Started by Philosophía399 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
He cut sensory input from the gems so you can't really argue that they helped him precieve/react to the gems.
He made it quite clear that though he cut himself from sensory input, the limitless power would still be his. So while he could not see in the future/have awarness of everything that was going around him, he was still amped.

Originally posted by darthgoober
At that level of speed, it doesn't matter how much Thanos moved. If he moved his hand an inch, it's impressive as Hell. And it's not 1,000x lightspeed, it's 31,556,926x lightspeed. As for how I came to that number, Surfer and Warlock were over a lightyear away from Thanos and Surfer covered the distance in about a second. If it takes light a year to traverse the distance and Surfer a second, it means he was doing at least 31,556,926x lightspeed because that's how many seconds are in a year.

When an certain DC fan tries to use RL physics in Comic debates he gets only an LOL. So that's it.

Thanos saw the SS coming, he had that Silver light in his eye before SS appeared. Except of this. IMO reflexes, how fast you throw a punch, how fast you move a limb, how fast you can even run, are all at least partially physical attributes which could indeed be enchanced via the PG. That feat doesn't feels right imho.

Originally posted by darthgoober
At that level of speed, it doesn't matter how much Thanos moved. If he moved his hand an inch, it's impressive as Hell. And it's not 1,000x lightspeed, it's 31,556,926x lightspeed. As for how I came to that number, Surfer and Warlock were over a lightyear away from Thanos and Surfer covered the distance in about a second. If it takes light a year to traverse the distance and Surfer a second, it means he was doing at least 31,556,926x lightspeed because that's how many seconds are in a year.

Yeah that explains why Starlin wrote that Surfer missed, and why it took him 14 panels.

And why travel so insane fast ? The faster you go, the more likely you will miss.

Another thing, comics are not science. Don't think for an instance writers calculate everything before writing down a scene. Comics are full of those kinds of mistakes.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yeah that explains why Starlin wrote that Surfer missed, and why it took him 14 panels.

And why travel so insane fast ? The faster you go, the more likely you will miss.

Another thing, comics are not science. Don't think for an instance writers calculate everything before writing down a scene. Comics are full of those kinds of mistakes.


"Surfer missing" doesn't take away from the feat. Of course he missed his mark because his mark was the Infinity Gauntlet and Thanos moved the thing.

As for panel counting, it's not all that accurate for guaging time in comics. There have been scene's that went on for pages and only lasted a second or two.

So anything that proves you wrong is a "mistake" huh 😂 ? It's funny that DC fans say that kind of thing about Thanos, but insist that Flash was doing over a trillion times lightspeed to save those people from the nuke despite his speed being specifically labled as near lightspeed...

Counting panels, nice.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Counting panels, nice.

Not as nice though as assuming things without backing them up.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Not as nice though as assuming things without backing them up.

What did I assume and not back up?

How do you justify counting panels btw? Years can pass in a panel, just like a panel can display things happen simultaneously. Counting panels is asinine.

Originally posted by darthgoober
"Surfer missing" doesn't take away from the feat. Of course he missed his mark because his mark was the Infinity Gauntlet and Thanos moved the thing.

As for panel counting, it's not all that accurate for guaging time in comics. There have been scene's that went on for pages and only lasted a second or two.

So anything that proves you wrong is a "mistake" huh 😂 ? It's funny that DC fans say that kind of thing about Thanos, but insist that Flash was doing over a trillion times lightspeed to save those people from the nuke despite his speed being specifically labled as near lightspeed...


Doesn't matter, he was wearing the IG and was extremely powered up, a thing he proved with every single fight.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Doesn't matter, he was wearing the IG and was extremely powered up, a thing he proved with every single fight.

👆

lmao panel counting=genius.

Originally posted by Philosophía
He made it quite clear that though he cut himself from sensory input, the limitless power would still be his. So while he could not see in the future/have awarness of everything that was going around him, he was still amped.

Yeah limitless power, but with no sensory input. So the gems didn't factor in to his being able to precieve/react to Surfer. If he saw Surfer coming at that speed then, it was all him and something that would still apply with someone moving at that speed now. So has Supes ever blitzed at a faster speed than Surfer was moving there? If not, it means that he's not going to be moving faster than Thanos can see/react to...

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Doesn't matter, he was wearing the IG and was extremely powered up, a thing he proved with every single fight.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He cut sensory input from the gems so you can't really argue that they helped him precieve/react to Surfer.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah limitless power, but with no sensory input. So the gems didn't factor in to his being able to precieve/react to Surfer. If he saw Surfer coming at that speed then, it was all him and something that would still apply...

Where did I mention that sensory input, which we both agreed deactivated, had anything to do with it? I was pointing out that, eventough he didn't have the same awarness he had beforehand, the gems still increased his capabilities, and thus the instance being used as proof of Thanos's capabilities in normal circumstances, when there wasn't such, is futile.

Furthermore, just to be sure we're on the same page, what exactly from that instance makes you think Thanos has FTL reaction time ? Expand.

limitless power = drawing from the power gem 😗

thanos was hit many times prior to the surfer incident, but it was the fact that surfer tried to de-power him that he reacted like that.

he can only put on a show for so long before things get serious.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Where did I mention that sensory input, which we both agreed deactivated, had anything to do with it? I was pointing out that, eventough he didn't have the same awarness he had beforehand, the gems still increased his capabilities, and thus the instance being used as proof of Thanos's capabilities in normal circumstances, when there wasn't such, is futile.

Furthermore, just to be sure we're on the same page, what exactly from that instance makes you think Thanos has FTL reaction time ? Expand.


So you're saying that Thanos kept all of his abilities amped throughout the fight? Do you have any actual proof of that, because the fact that he was getting knocked around by damn near everyone during that encounter and then went on to tank attacks from the Cosmic Beings later certainly seems to suggest that he didn't.

Because Surfer was moving at far FTL speeds and Thanos saw/reacted to him. Pretty basic...

Originally posted by darthgoober
So you're saying that Thanos kept all of his abilities amped throughout the fight? Do you have any actual proof of that, because the fact that he was getting knocked around by damn near everyone during that encounter and then went on to tank attacks from the Cosmic Beings later certainly seems to suggest that he didn't.

Because Surfer was moving at far FTL speeds and Thanos saw/reacted to him. Pretty basic...

so do you have another example of thanos speed without the IG?

if thanos is really that fast, he should have several speed feats.

Spider-Man fought Surfer once, and did a great job - though he eventually lost naturally.

Still, great showing for Spider-Man, Surfer had real trouble hitting him. So I take it Spider-Man has FTL reflexes and traveling speed ?

This is exactly the same logic as the Thanos fans use.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So you're saying that Thanos kept all of his abilities amped throughout the fight? Do you have any actual proof of that, because the fact that he was getting knocked around by damn near everyone during that encounter and then went on to tank attacks from the Cosmic Beings later certainly seems to suggest that he didn't.

Because Surfer was moving at far FTL speeds and Thanos saw/reacted to him. Pretty basic...


Too bad Surfer missed. Thanos could have been a statue, Surfer still missed.

Hey, don't complain about it, it's Starlin's fault, not mine. He wrote it very clearly. I know you don't like it, but it's there...

Originally posted by Starscream M
so do you have another example of thanos speed without the IG?

if thanos is really that fast, he should have several speed feats.


Sure, him reacting to Surfer in other instances, him reacting to the Fallen One, him raising a forcefield to block Thor's hammer after it was thrown, him grabbing Mar-Vell out of the air, and at least one multiple hand image blasting feat from before his death/ressurection.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Too bad Surfer missed. Thanos could have been a statue, Surfer still missed.

Hey, don't complain about it, it's Starlin's fault, not mine. He wrote it very clearly. I know you don't like it, but it's there...


Of course he missed, Thanos moved his hand. If Supes takes a swing at Wonder Woman and Wonder Woman ducks, he missed his mark...