Originally posted by h1a8
Darth didn't understand my post before that one so I showed him in math.Thanos won't have a chance to get his shields up.
Thanos face is not armor, nor is armor on his body standard equipment.
Thanos durability doesn't exceed the ability to be stunned and affected by SUPERMAN, the man of steel.If you disagree with the former then Superman crumbles the shields by continuing to pound them.
h1a8, I'm going to ask you an honest question here.
Do you assume that the person you're argueing for to win is operating at their absolute best where as the person they're fighting against is not? It just seems you always seem to place one character on this pedistal for a debate and dismiss countless feats and on panel evidence of the other. Coupled with trying to use real life physics/math/logic and a general lack of indisputable proof on your part, it just seems very obstinate.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
h1a8, I'm going to ask you an honest question here.Do you assume that the person you're argueing for to win is operating at their absolute best where as the person they're fighting against is not? It just seems you always seem to place one character on this pedistal for a debate and dismiss countless feats and on panel evidence of the other. Coupled with trying to use real life physics/math/logic and a general lack of indisputable proof on your part, it just seems very obstinate.
No both parties are operating at their best.
I just use an undeniable and undefeatable logic though.
SPEED WINS ALL THE TIME
In all honesty though, I'm a servant of the COMBO TO KO principle.
It is the absolute truth.
Now if two combatants were the same speed none of this would apply.
Flash beats Superman for the very same reason.
Lastly the proof that is offered me is futile. Nothing in Thor's or Thanos entire history proves without a shadow of a doubt that they can prevent Superman from popping them before they can flinch.
I've seen all the evidence and they are all futile, because Superman is that fast.
Originally posted by h1a8
No both parties are operating at their best.
I just use an undeniable and undefeatable logic though.SPEED WINS ALL THE TIME
In all honesty though, I'm a servant of the COMBO TO KO principle.
It is the absolute truth.Now if two combatants were the same speed none of this would apply.
Flash beats Superman for the very same reason.Lastly the proof that is offered me is futile. Nothing in Thor's or Thanos entire history proves without a shadow of a doubt that they can prevent Superman from popping them before they can flinch.
I've seen all the evidence and they are all futile, because Superman is that fast.
Surfer's speed>>Superman's speed
Thanos's reflexes/reaction time>Surfer's speed.
need more proof?
Originally posted by shokosugiAnother scan which proves nothing. Thanos can react to this while taking on one other person. Next.
Originally posted by shokosugiI guess you want to prove Superman ko's himself against a Thanos shield. Nicely done.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeAn exaggeration of another feat.
Superman goes KO but Thanos dies in the process infinite mass punch > Thanos jaw uhuh
Originally posted by h1a8Sho's a superman supporter and he brought it into play here.
This is either a low showing, or the Shadow moon was astronomically more durable than a normal moon.
Originally posted by h1a8
No both parties are operating at their best.
I just use an undeniable and undefeatable logic though.SPEED WINS ALL THE TIME
In all honesty though, I'm a servant of the COMBO TO KO principle.
It is the absolute truth.Now if two combatants were the same speed none of this would apply.
Flash beats Superman for the very same reason.Lastly the proof that is offered me is futile. Nothing in Thor's or Thanos entire history proves without a shadow of a doubt that they can prevent Superman from popping them before they can flinch.
I've seen all the evidence and they are all futile, because Superman is that fast.
And how many comics do you read with the vaunted COMBO TO KO principle being used successfully? And yes, these are forum fights not comic fights, but I'm of the opinion you're putting way too much stock into this "logic".
How many of Superman's fights begin or end with Superman going at FTL speeds using the almighty combo to ko? And yes, I understand all fights have all particapants at their best by default by character and personality are in effect as well, something I personally think you're not taking into account with alot of Superman fights here.
In your opinion, besides Flash (as you have just mentioned him above), who reasonably defeats Superman for the majority? Humor me.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And how many comics do you read with the vaunted COMBO TO KO principle being used successfully? And yes, these are forum fights not comic fights, but I'm of the opinion you're putting way too much stock into this "logic".How many of Superman's fights begin or end with Superman going at FTL speeds using the almighty combo to ko? And yes, I understand all fights have all particapants at their best by default by character and personality are in effect as well, something I personally think you're not taking into account with alot of Superman fights here.
In your opinion, besides Flash (as you have just mentioned him above), who reasonably defeats Superman for the majority? Humor me.
Silver Surfer beats Superman for a slight majority, the new Sentry, WW, Zoom, Runner might (not sure though), HP DD (without BFR), Hal Jordan, SBP, Classic Strange, Amazo.
I'm going to let you in on a secret. This will help you understand me better. I studied martial arts for several years, I was a former master of Street Fighter II (even won some tournaments), and I'm a big fan of slow motion action (Neo in the Matrix). This is why I argue the combo to ko principle for the much faster. If Thor was nearly the same speed as Superman or faster then I would give him 10/10. I'm not bias towards D.C. nor Marvel but this principle. Please believe me, I do not wish to disrespect Thor nor thanos. If both were known for their super speed like Superman is or if they convinced me that they were the same speed as Superman then you would see me on you guys side arguing against the Superman fans.
Also know that I'm a huge Spider-man fan and will argue for him to death.
With that said,
I saw many different cases of the combo to ko in comics throughout my life. The only ones I can remember now though is DD (on Darkseid), DD (on WW), Thor (on some wolf dude), Thanos (on Surfer), Thor (on Glads).
I don't consider much weight (if any at all) to comic fights. Because they almost always contradict what will really happen. Spiderman dodging a hail of bullets while cracking jokes contradicts him getting hit by a slow moving attack. So Superman not moving at Light speeds and comboing someone to ko is not because he can't do it but rather the writer wanted a story of adversity. Superman doing stuff like this everytime makes the story boring.
Now I understand the IN CHARACTER routine. It is in Superman's character, for he is intelligent enough and not limited in the warrior sense as Thor is. Writer's limit Superman is not a testament of how dumb Superman is but only to their flaws or their inability to add adversity.
I tried to agree yesterday that Superman wins a slight majority over Thor due to the speed difference but someone disrespected my concession (my meeting them half way) and said Thor wins a large majority or all. That pissed me off and sent me back on my combo to ko, Superman is faster than routine. So sorry if I seem over the top. I was forced to.
Originally posted by shokosugi
for people who do not understand physics: for someone to be able to bend space one must travel greater than the speed of light.
Originally posted by shokosugiquoted for lulz
ROFL what an idiot, Why don't you read this psycho.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Doesnt look like Sockosugi can deliver, so H1a8 are you gonna provide you follwing to back you case.
I posted it yesterday. Don't tell me you didn't see it. If not then I'll post it again in the afternoon. Superman blitzed this fool when he casually blocked Superman's HV.
But what you ask is similar to prove that Superman can lift a tow truck even though he never has.
We know that Superman can do these things because both requirements are met for the combo to ko.
Originally posted by the ninjakDrax was programmed to kill Thanos meaning no one else could perform the feat least of all superman. Also, Thanos' back was turned. Context.
Didnt Drax punch through Thanoss back?
I know Drax was designed to kill him but thats not very durable.
I always thought All of his accomplishments were tricks and advanced tech!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by h1a8Then you should have no problem re posting in.
I posted it yesterday. Don't tell me you didn't see it. If not then I'll post it again in the afternoon. Superman blitzed this fool when he casually blocked Superman's HV.But what you ask is similar to prove that Superman can lift a tow truck even though he never has.
We know that Superman can do these things because both requirements are met for the combo to ko.
Originally posted by h1a8I saw that scan, irrc it wasnt a speedblitz combo that eneded with a ko to a guy with the lvl of durability that Thanos has, and yes you have to show him doing it of sorts to back your case up.
I posted it yesterday. Don't tell me you didn't see it. If not then I'll post it again in the afternoon. Superman blitzed this fool when he casually blocked Superman's HV.But what you ask is similar to prove that Superman can lift a tow truck even though he never has.
We know that Superman can do these things because both requirements are met for the combo to ko.
Originally posted by Nihilist
I saw that scan, irrc it wasnt a speedblitz combo that eneded with a ko to a guy with the lvl of durability that Thanos has, and yes you have to show him doing it of sorts to back your case up.
I disagree. It is clear that Superman is more than strong enough and fast enough to combo Thanos to ko.
Hell, I view DS as Thanos physical superior and we all know what Superman can do to him.