Thanos vs Superman

Started by carver9399 pages

I didnt know the gems enhanced reflexes. I knew of it giving a strength increase (unlimited strength) but thats about it. None of the gems actually increase a persons reflexes and using the runner is a terrible example since it increased his already known ability (super speed).

Which one of the gems add on to a persons reflexes?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
no amped cosmic awareness. his battle skills were still amped, limitless power still in there.
Limitless power doesn't help your reflexes or battle skills. It just amps your overall power level. I see words confuse you.

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt know the gems enhanced reflexes. I knew of it giving a strength increase (unlimited strength) but thats about it. None of the gems actually increase a persons reflexes and using the runner is a terrible example since it increased his already known ability (super speed).

Which one of the gems add on to a persons reflexes?

Batman prime doesn't understand the point of the words used in the scans. he thinks power=reflexes.

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt know the gems enhanced reflexes. I knew of it giving a strength increase (unlimited strength) but thats about it. None of the gems actually increase a persons reflexes and using the runner is a terrible example since it increased his already known ability (super speed).

Which one of the gems add on to a persons reflexes?

TIME

Originally posted by the ninjak
TIME
So you have a scan of Thanos stopping time, slowing down or reversing time when Surfer charged him then.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So you have a scan of Thanos stopping time, slowing down or reversing time when Surfer charged him then.

Just going by the arcade game 😄

Originally posted by the ninjak
Just going by the arcade game 😄
So you dont then, your just making crap up.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So you dont then, your just making crap up.

Time Gem didn't increase his reflexes, it removed the limitations of his perception of time. If he wanted someone to freeze still he could do it.
You had to surprise him.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Time Gem didn't increase his reflexes, it removed the limitations of his perception of time. If he wanted someone to freeze still he could do it.
You had to surprise him.
Bullshit, prove he did that.

It is not unrealistic to think thanos physical attributes such as strngth speed energy projection were increased even if his sensory perceptions were diminished...

He can still drive a car 50mph... He just can't seewhere he is going...
It's probably the surfers own fault for being so god damn shiny

Originally posted by carver9
None of this ever happened except him flying to catch a bullet out of the air a mile a way.

The last time a horde of bullets came at Superman that was going to hit some innocent bystanders, Superman couldnt stop them all and the flash had to assist.

Show us this speed of light combat speed instead of showing us space flight.

I already showed the scan of Superman fighting faster than light speed. He exceeded the speed of his HV in a blitz.

The incident I'm referring to is where he stops all of the bullets by himself. I'm not sure what you are referring to but it is a low showing and can't be used anyway.

Lastly, vibrating through attacks is indeed ftl fighting.

Originally posted by rotiart
It is not unrealistic to think thanos physical attributes such as strngth speed energy projection were increased even if his sensory perceptions were diminished...

He can still drive a car 50mph... He just can't seewhere he is going...
It's probably the surfers own fault for being so god damn shiny

They weren't mentioned to being amped. He was cut off from seeing his opponents attacks beforehand. it's also ridiculous to think his reflexes were amped when you have Hulk, Spiderman, and wolverine hitting him. It was a melee in which Thanos was showing off for death. They needed to remove the ig to beat him and the Surfer was the best chance because he was unknown to Thanos during all the fighting and it happened so quickly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They weren't mentioned to being amped. He was cut off from seeing his opponents attacks beforehand. it's also ridiculous to think his reflexes were amped when you have Hulk, Spiderman, and wolverine hitting him. It was a melee in which Thanos was showing off for death. They needed to remove the ig to beat him and the Surfer was the best chance because he was unknown to Thanos during all the fighting and it happened so quickly.

Bad argument. Contradictions always happen in comics. For example, in one panel Spider-man dodges a hail of bullets, and in another gets hit by a slow moving enemy.

Thanos was obviously amped from the IG as he what he did to CA shield.

Also what you must understand is that SS was much further away from Thanos than Superman will be from him. That means Thanos would have less time to react and move than with with SS (assuming Thanos reacted in the scan instead of SS just missing).

It is 100% clear that Superman is fast enough to pop Thanos before Thanos can act. This is going by Superman at his best though.

Superman combos Thanos to ko ftw.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman combos Thanos to ko ftw.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bad argument. Contradictions always happen in comics. For example, in one panel Spider-man dodges a hail of bullets, and in another gets hit by a slow moving enemy.

Thanos was obviously amped from the IG as he what he did to CA shield.

Also what you must understand is that SS was much further away from Thanos than Superman will be from him. That means Thanos would have less time to react and move than with with SS (assuming Thanos reacted in the scan instead of SS just missing).

It is 100% clear that Superman is fast enough to pop Thanos before Thanos can act. This is going by Superman at his best though.

Superman combos Thanos to ko ftw.

I put up the scans. His speed/reaction wasn't amped just his power. Not like you read the issue anyways.

I already posted how close the Fallen One was. Surfer was also an unknown to Thanos while fighting someone else and he still reacted to Surfer going as fast as he could. Might be one of the best reflexes feats ever on panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I put up the scans. His speed/reaction wasn't amped just his power. Not like you read the issue anyways.
Lies! Saying something doesn't make it true. Also, if his speed/reflexes wasn't amped by then why did he react to Surfer (assuming he did).

I already posted how close the Fallen One was. Surfer was also an unknown to Thanos while fighting someone else and he still reacted to Surfer going as fast as he could. Might be one of the best reflexes feats ever on panel.
Fallen One wasn't proven to even achieve the speed of sound in that scan nor was he proven to do so at any other time. Surfer was farther than Superman will be thus Thanos (who barely reacted to SS) won't have a chance to react to a much closer Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lies! Saying something doesn't make it true. Also, if his speed/reflexes wasn't amped by then why did he react to Surfer (assuming he did).
Fallen One wasn't proven to even achieve the speed of sound in that scan nor was he proven to do so at any other time. Surfer was farther than Superman will be thus Thanos (who barely reacted to SS) won't have a chance to react to a much closer Superman.
Because he has reflexes fast enough to avoid this.

You don't know. His speed abilities are much faster than the speed of sound. Surfer came after Thanos while he was fighting someone else without even knowing he was present. You're right that Superman won't have this advantage not that it would matter.

Originally posted by h1a8
I already showed the scan of Superman fighting faster than light speed. He exceeded the speed of his HV in a blitz.

The incident I'm referring to is where he stops all of the bullets by himself. I'm not sure what you are referring to but it is a low showing and can't be used anyway.

Lastly, vibrating through attacks is indeed ftl fighting.

That wasnt a faster than light scan.

First thing, heat vision isnt fast as light, not even close. Second thing, you are basically saying that the guy that superman was fighting has faster than light reflexes since he blocked the blast when shot, 3rd, superman shot heat vision, THE GUY BLOCKED IT, then Superman attacked with 3 punches. Thats not even a speed of sound attack.

Show me the instance he stopped machine gun fire.

Vibrating? Did Superman do this more than once because you know the rules have been changed right (KMC rules). A character has to do a feat more than once for it to be within their powers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he has reflexes fast enough to avoid this.
No he doesn't. For his entire history says otherwise. And he needs speed along with the reflexes. Saying reflexes alone proves you are not that smart.

You don't know. His speed abilities are much faster than the speed of sound. Surfer came after Thanos while he was fighting someone else without even knowing he was present. You're right that Superman won't have this advantage not that it would matter.

Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Of course he can exceed the speed of sound. But he can't within battle distance like Superman can.

Doesn't matter what Thanos was doing, he could have been brushing his teeth for all I care. The fact remains is that he spotted SS a long ways off (much further than battle distance) yet only managed to move his hand only an inch or 2.

You have to fight arguments.

1. That Thanos was amped
2. That SS missed instead of Thanos reacting
3. That SS was much further away than Superman will be
4. That Thanos only managed to move his hand an inch only.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he doesn't. For his entire history says otherwise. And he needs speed along with the reflexes. Saying reflexes alone proves you are not that smart.

Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Of course he can exceed the speed of sound. But he can't within battle distance like Superman can.

Doesn't matter what Thanos was doing, he could have been brushing his teeth for all I care. The fact remains is that he spotted SS a long ways off (much further than battle distance) yet only managed to move his hand only an inch or 2.

You have to fight arguments.

1. That Thanos was amped
2. That SS missed instead of Thanos reacting
3. That SS was much further away than Superman will be
4. That Thanos only managed to move his hand an inch only.

No, it doesn't. What about his history says he cannot cope with speed?

No, the Surfer was flying too fast for Thanos to spot away.

1.Turned off the ability to see his opponents next move before it occurred.

2.Thanos moved. Surfer didn't miss.

3.See Fallen One.

4.Yes, due to the fact he was fighting someone else.

Originally posted by snyper1982
Seriously? One low end speed feat from supes negates all the times he has show FAR FAR FAR superior speed. Hell, even smallville clark has the speed to run all the way across town to save lana from a bullet shot that had already been fired, and he is not even in the same league as comic superman.

As for the fight, Thanos takes this 10/10. Superman is by far my favorite character, but he is simply outclassed here. Anyone saying otherwise is just doing it for the lulz.

bullets fly faster than the speed of sound