Thanos vs Superman

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Originally posted by carver9
That wasnt a faster than light scan.

First thing, heat vision isnt fast as light, not even close.

HV has always been portrayed as moving at the speed of light. All current scans clearly show it as a laser beam. Also Superman's HV arrived on the moon in about a couple of seconds. That alone proves it. And If Superman's HV is not light speed then no energy blast in comics is either.


Second thing, you are basically saying that the guy that superman was fighting has faster than light reflexes since he blocked the blast when shot, 3rd, superman shot heat vision, THE GUY BLOCKED IT, then Superman attacked with 3 punches. Thats not even a speed of sound attack.
If a guy practically yawns when blocking a light speed attack from 5ft away then how hard is it to block some punches if they are slower than light in the same panel? The writer clearly wanted to portray the speed of Superman's blitz.

Show me the instance he stopped machine gun fire.
Your SOL since I don't have the scans; maybe another D.C. fan can show you. The point was not to prove Superman's reflexes (which are at least light speed) but to prove that he can reach the speed of sound within the first 3m of travel. If a bullet is fired from 3m away and Superman catches up to it to stop it then that means he exceeded the speed of sound within the first 3 m of travel.

Vibrating? Did Superman do this more than once because you know the rules have been changed right (KMC rules). A character has to do a feat more than once for it to be within their powers.
He vibrated at least twice. Once with DD and once with Mongul.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't. What about his history says he cannot cope with Superman's speed?
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No, the Surfer was flying too fast for Thanos to spot away.
If that is the case then SS missed as Thanos didn't notice him. Or Thanos didn't cut his sensory ability off after all. Choose your poison.

1.Turned off the ability to see his opponents next move before it occurred.
That means Thanos was still amped or SS just missed.

2.Thanos moved. Surfer didn't miss.
Thanos was always moving, as he was punching. Thought u knew that.

3.See Fallen One.
Proves nothing since FO hasn't been proven to even exceed the speed of sound within the first 3m.

4.Yes, due to the fact he was fighting someone else.
Doesn't matter as you have to contend with multiple arguments.

1. SS was too far away as Superman will be
2. Thanos was amped
3. Thanos only move a inch (not enough for Superman).
4. SS missed instead

You must defeat all of these to validate the feat. Defeating all but 1 still leaves the feat as invalid.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Bullshit, prove he did that.

Jeez... He didn't sit down with the reader and explain how the IG works.
Its just how I read it. He could choose when he wanted to fight the heroes. Control over time. But when in the fray. A hero could sneak up on him if everything got too crazy. hence time manipulation based on perception.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lies! Saying something doesn't make it true.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not canon. LOL, is this the best you can do?

It was for the lulz.

Originally posted by h1a8
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If that is the case then SS missed as Thanos didn't notice him. Or Thanos didn't cut his sensory ability off after all. Choose your poison.
That means Thanos was still amped or SS just missed.
Thanos was always moving, as he was punching. Thought u knew that.
Proves nothing since FO hasn't been proven to even exceed the speed of sound within the first 3m.
Doesn't matter as you have to contend with multiple arguments.

1. SS was too far away as Superman will be
2. Thanos was amped
3. Thanos only move a inch (not enough for Superman).
4. SS missed instead

You must defeat all of these to validate the feat. Defeating all but 1 still leaves the feat as invalid.

I asked you a question so please answer it.

That's incorrect. Surfer was right on his mark and he missed due to Thanos' reflexes.

That means Thanos was still powerful and was relying on his own nerves and battle skills to win the fight.

Then prove it. You saying he didn't break the sound barrier is ignoring his bio and the speeds he is capable of.

1.Fallen One. Also says Thanos can react against superman while fighting someone else basically.
2.His powers not his reflexes. LOL.
3.He can activate his shiedling, tk.
4.If you knew anything about the Surfer you'd realize this guy doesn't miss.

You're a terrible debater.

Originally posted by snyper1982
It was for the lulz.
Internet is serious business.

Originally posted by carver9
Traveling space means nothing because their is no gravity to hold anything back. Superman admits this when Doomsday was on the moon. He said due to there being no gravity on the moon, it wouldnt take Doomsday no time to cover it, thats why he took off so fast after doomsday.

Writers have also stated this, thats why we ask for ftl combat speed because of course a person can travel pretty fast across space, hell classic rogue has done this alongside surfer. Vulcan has done this, Super skrull has done this, thor has done this, Beta Ray bill has done this, Ms. Marvel has done this. Even Ironman has flown to the sun and back in a couple of panels. Space flight=sh** and if its a indication of someone being able to fight at the speed of light then that means that half of dc and marvel has this ability.

I said it was my opinion and I am not going to argue it.

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt bring up one showing, it happened twice. One time it happened was when equus shot at some humans that he captured and Superman raced there to stop the bullets but every last one of those humans died.

The second time it happened was when some thugs held some humans captive and seen the jla and shot at them with machine gun fire and flash had to assist (saying that it was 500 bullets and its easy for him to pick them out of the air).

Ok, sorry, so 2 showings compared to all the other feats showing he is far faster.

Originally posted by Avlon
Thanos wins....

...if Superman all of a sudden forgets he has a speed, flight, and strength, above Thanos.

Other than that, Supes wins and Thanos becomes the most invulnerable volleyball ever to grace a comic book page. 🙂

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Thanos can negate speed and has the showings to prove it. he's also far more powerful and durable.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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shields, and beating a shield less thanos with punches/heatvision is highly dubious in of itself.

thanos can routinely take insane amounts of punishment and keep it moving, and was able to destroy a planet in his debut as a skinny whelp (comparatively), and casually tanked the explosion of a gas giant exposion without giving the impression it even mattered. both instances he was totally unharmed so it leads one to beilieve attacks of that magnitude are less than nothing.

defense and offense go to thanos easily, speed definitely goes to superman but then again he has to do damage to thanos to win and well.....can't.

H1a8 versus Quan...for so many pages. Hot pot-on-kettle action, everyone!

As for the thread Thanos 9/10.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
H1a8 versus Quan...for so many pages. Hot pot-on-kettle action, everyone!

As for the thread Thanos 9/10.

How does Thanos lose a single matchup? Unlike h1 I read the comics to support my reasoning.

Originally posted by h1a8
HV has always been portrayed as moving at the speed of light. All current scans clearly show it as a laser beam. Also Superman's HV arrived on the moon in about a couple of seconds. That alone proves it. And If Superman's HV is not light speed then no energy blast in comics is either.

If a guy practically yawns when blocking a light speed attack from 5ft away then how hard is it to block some punches if they are slower than light in the same panel? The writer clearly wanted to portray the speed of Superman's blitz.
Your SOL since I don't have the scans; maybe another D.C. fan can show you. The point was not to prove Superman's reflexes (which are at least light speed) but to prove that he can reach the speed of sound within the first 3m of travel. If a bullet is fired from 3m away and Superman catches up to it to stop it then that means he exceeded the speed of sound within the first 3 m of travel.
He vibrated at least twice. Once with DD and once with Mongul.

HV isnt light speed so stop saying that. Superman and Flash was running at 2000 mps and Superman heat visioned at flash and the heat vision couldnt even catch up.

H1A8, that wasnt a light speed attack and I'm safe to say that THAT wasnt even a speed of sound attack. The guy blocked the heat vision. Superman attacked AFTER the heat vision was blocked. Did you think Superman was going to stand still after shooting his heat vision?

There is on-panel proof showing that Supes can fight at or above the speed of sound (creating sonic booms from his punches) BUT speed of light, not even close.

The vibrating thing only happened once and that was with doomsday. With mongul, he didnt vibrate, he dodged and created after images and please dont let me name everyone who has done that (starting with Spiderman).

Originally posted by carver9
HV isnt light speed so stop saying that. Superman and Flash was running at 2000 mps and Superman heat visioned at flash and the heat vision couldnt even catch up.

H1A8, that wasnt a light speed attack and I'm safe to say that THAT wasnt even a speed of sound attack. The guy blocked the heat vision. Superman attacked AFTER the heat vision was blocked. Did you think Superman was going to stand still after shooting his heat vision?

There is on-panel proof showing that Supes can fight at or above the speed of sound (creating sonic booms from his punches) BUT speed of light, not even close.

The vibrating thing only happened once and that was with doomsday. With mongul, he didnt vibrate, he dodged and created after images and please dont let me name everyone who has done that (starting with Spiderman).

HV has always been portrayed as light speed. Especially when Superman shot a beam to the moon and it hit within a sec or two.

Where do you get Superman and Flash running at 2000mps from? That's completely false.

No. Superman wasn't firing HV anymore when he blitzed. He cut off his HV and blitzed. If the guy yawns and blocks HV then he could easily block a slower moving punch as well. But he didn't. Thus the blitz was faster than the HV.

With Mongul he vibrated. I'm not going to argue the obvious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I asked you a question so please answer it.

That's incorrect. Surfer was right on his mark and he missed due to Thanos' reflexes.

That means Thanos was still powerful and was relying on his own nerves and battle skills to win the fight.

Then prove it. You saying he didn't break the sound barrier is ignoring his bio and the speeds he is capable of.

1.Fallen One. Also says Thanos can react against superman while fighting someone else basically.
2.His powers not his reflexes. LOL.
3.He can activate his shiedling, tk.
4.If you knew anything about the Surfer you'd realize this guy doesn't miss.

You're a terrible debater.

What question did you ask?
WTF does on his mark mean? Thanos was amped, SS was further than Superman will be, Thanos only manage to move an inch, SS actually missed. All this destroys that feat.

Being able to travel the speed of light doesn't mean one can do it withing 3m. So fallen has to prove that he can reach the speed of sound within the first 3m or it isn't true.

Being able to react while doing something has no barring on being able to react to something fast and close.

Thanos won't even get the shields up and Superman can crumble then anyway after constant bombardment.

SS missed Thor when Thor was standing still in space.

Your a 100 times worst debater. You don't even have enough sense to know that combo to ko principle is comic truth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I put up the scans. His speed/reaction wasn't amped just his power. Not like you read the issue anyways.

I already posted how close the Fallen One was. Surfer was also an unknown to Thanos while fighting someone else and he still reacted to Surfer going as fast as he could. Might be one of the best reflexes feats ever on panel.

to bad tahnos didn't react, surfer just missed. so, there goes you're best reflex feat eva! 😛

and no, you can't use the "nah uh! you didn't read the comic" argument on me coz i have the issue in question siting right in front of me and clear as day, the surfer just missed.

but hey, surfer just traveled 1 light year in what, less than a few seconds. that means surfer was traveling at many many many multiples the speed of light (as we know, 1 light year is the distance traveled by light in a year, hence, at the speed of light, it will take 1 year to traverse 1 light year). anyone traveling at that insane speed would most likely miss also..maybe not superman, but most anybody would miss.

people still don't think he ducked?

come the phuck on

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
anyone traveling at that insane speed would most likely miss also..maybe not superman, but most anybody would miss.

twice light speed is over doing it, replicating surfer is impossible

Originally posted by h1a8
What question did you ask?
WTF does on his mark mean? Thanos was amped, SS was further than Superman will be, Thanos only manage to move an inch, SS actually missed. All this destroys that feat.

Being able to travel the speed of light doesn't mean one can do it withing 3m. So fallen has to prove that he can reach the speed of sound within the first 3m or it isn't true.

Being able to react while doing something has no barring on being able to react to something fast and close.

Thanos won't even get the shields up and Superman can crumble then anyway after constant bombardment.

SS missed Thor when Thor was standing still in space.

Your a 100 times worst debater. You don't even have enough sense to know that combo to ko principle is comic truth.

I honestly can't remember nor do I feel like hearing a nonanswer from you.

Thanos' reflexes weren't amped just his power levels. When I said he was right on his mark I meant Thanos moved the Surfer didn't just miss.

Translight speed. When has Superman ever fought at the speed of light?

He proved that against the Fallen One. All he has to do is tk/shield. It's one simple movement.

If you want to deny Thanos can't do it you can, but that's just another example of you dismissing certain feats and accepting others.

Superman's also missed his mark. Surfer didn't get the jump on Thor waiting for his moment either.

No one agrees with your principle and the sad thing is you can't even give one good example of Superman doing so.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
to bad tahnos didn't react, surfer just missed. so, there goes you're best reflex feat eva! 😛

and no, you can't use the "nah uh! you didn't read the comic" argument on me coz i have the issue in question siting right in front of me and clear as day, the surfer just missed.

but hey, surfer just traveled 1 light year in what, less than a few seconds. that means surfer was traveling at many many many multiples the speed of light (as we know, 1 light year is the distance traveled by light in a year, hence, at the speed of light, it will take 1 year to traverse 1 light year). anyone traveling at that insane speed would most likely miss also..maybe not superman, but most anybody would miss.

Do you really think he missed of his own accord?

Surfer didn't miss and assuming he does shows an ignorance of the Surfer and his abilities while also demonstrating you didn't comprehend the actual feat whether you read it or not.