Thanos vs Superman

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I honestly can't remember nor do I feel like hearing a nonanswer from you.

Thanos' reflexes weren't amped just his power levels. When I said he was right on his mark I meant Thanos moved the Surfer didn't just miss.

If Thanos can physically destroy CA's shield then by the writer's intention for all practical purposes he was amped. Which also means that with more power is more speed (because punching power is increased).


Translight speed. When has Superman ever fought at the speed of light?
Superman fought faster than light speed when he vibrated and exceeded his HV.

He proved that against the Fallen One. All he has to do is tk/shield. It's one simple movement.
He would be a statue to Superman and won't get a chance to move a millimeter. Hell, an amped version just managed only an inch with Surfer being far away.

If you want to deny Thanos can't do it you can, but that's just another example of you dismissing certain feats and accepting others.
How can one dismiss a non feat? If it were a feat then will it be possible to dismiss or accept.

Superman's also missed his mark. Surfer didn't get the jump on Thor waiting for his moment either.
You claimed Surfer never misses. I just owned you there.

No one agrees with your principle and the sad thing is you can't even give one good example of Superman doing so.
Examples aren't needed when a proof is given. For example, if one can lift x+1 pounds then they can lift x pounds. It is not necessary to show one actually lifting x pounds.

Do you really think he missed of his own accord?
Of course. It seems almost obvious.

Surfer didn't miss and assuming he does shows an ignorance of the Surfer and his abilities while also demonstrating you didn't comprehend the actual feat whether you read it or not.

Well why in the hell did he miss a still target in Thor? Got owned again.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Thanos can physically destroy CA's shield then by the writer's intention for all practical purposes he was amped. Which also means that with more power is more speed (because punching power is increased).

Superman fought faster than light speed when he vibrated and exceeded his HV.
He would be a statue to Superman and won't get a chance to move a millimeter. Hell, an amped version just managed only an inch with Surfer being far away.
How can one dismiss a non feat? If it were a feat then will it be possible to dismiss or accept.
You claimed Surfer never misses. I just owned you there.
Examples aren't needed when a proof is given. For example, if one can lift x+1 pounds then they can lift x pounds. It is not necessary to show one actually lifting x pounds.
Of course. It seems almost obvious.

Well why in the hell did he miss a still target in Thor? Got owned again.

He specifically stated he retained limitless power but that his battle skills remained the same. We've been over this and the actual scan has been posted and at this point I don't even think you are trying to be serious.

Prove it.

Give me a few examples of someone being a statue to Superman. On cbr they don't even use this logic with these two characters.

It's a feat and you saying a nonfeat is another example of you not even grasping what the scan clearly shows.

In the context of the scan he doesn't. In battle that's another story. You owned yourself.

Another statement proving nothing. Superman's strength=Marvel's strength while Thanos' is well above both of their strength.

He wasn't lying in wait now was he against Thor?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
to bad tahnos didn't react, surfer just missed. so, there goes you're best reflex feat eva! 😛

and no, you can't use the "nah uh! you didn't read the comic" argument on me coz i have the issue in question siting right in front of me and clear as day, the surfer just missed.

but hey, surfer just traveled 1 light year in what, less than a few seconds. that means surfer was traveling at many many many multiples the speed of light (as we know, 1 light year is the distance traveled by light in a year, hence, at the speed of light, it will take 1 year to traverse 1 light year). anyone traveling at that insane speed would most likely miss also..maybe not superman, but most anybody would miss.

Thanos saw him coming. But you are right more or less, it's stated that the surfer missed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He specifically stated he retained limitless power but that his battle skills remained the same. We've been over this and the actual scan has been posted and at this point I don't even think you are trying to be serious.
Who care's about skill? More power gives greater moving speed and thus more striking power. This is common sense. This leads to Thanos with faster movement speed, faster connections is his brain (increased reflexes), etc. He was amped and can't be used to support normal Thanos.

Prove it.

To vibrate through attacks one must exceed the speed of light otherwise intangibility can't be achieved (but only IMPing). If someone can casually (while practically yawning) block an attack then they certainly can a much slower attack. But since the guy got overwhelmed by Superman's blitz that means that Superman's blitz was much faster and more attacks. You can easily catch a 30mph ball from 5ft. But can you catch one hundred 60mph balls from 2ft away? Hell no!

Give me a few examples of someone being a statue to Superman. On cbr they don't even use this logic with these two characters.
The people shot bullets at others, where Superman went in front to save, where frozen as statues. But this doesn't matter since if someone is more than thousands of times faster then they can move a significant distance before the other can move a millimeter. This is the example of being a statue. Superman even sees lightning is super slow motion. I use this logic because I always imagine these characters fighting in REALITY and try to picture what will really happen. That is the root of this whole comic forum anyway.

Another statement proving nothing. Superman's strength=Marvel's strength while Thanos' is well above both of their strength.

Superman is stronger than Marvel by a lot. Only a holding back Superman is near the same strength (slightly stronger).
By best feats Superman is far far stronger than Thanos. Prove that Thanos is stronger than Superman since you are so big on 'prove it'.

He wasn't lying in wait now was he against Thor?

Thor was just standing there is space without his hammer. SS blasted and constantly missed. Bad writing in its finest, but still SS was shown to miss.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is stronger than Marvel by a lot. Only a holding back Superman is near the same strength (slightly stronger).

They've been shown time and time again to be equal. Almost every Superman/Captain Marvel encounter I can think of whether its Pre-Crisis, Post Crisis, canon, or not-canon, shows CM and Supes being equal in the terms of strength/durabilty. Their fights usually end in stalemates or under dubious circumstances at best.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is stronger than Marvel by a lot.

Yeah right considering his weakness to magic.
I don't care how any forum pans out.
Supes goes down to Thor, SS, Odin, Loki, Enchantress, Drac, Classic Strange....... hey a weapon made out of vampire teeth will flay him.

To be fair, Superman isn't "weak" to magic. His invulnerability simply doesn't extend to magic as Captain Marvel's, Wonder Woman's, or Thor's would.

I've always seen this fight as 50/50. Unlike DS Thanos doesn't have powers to negate a speedblitz, he doesn't have an energy blast that can track a target through any space and time.

So Thanos is vulnerable to Supes speed, but Thanos can entrap Supes if he makes an error. So the margin of error for Supes is razor thin, but Thanos margin of victory is also thin, because he's severely outclassed in terms of cqc and speed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
To be fair, Superman isn't "weak" to magic. His invulnerability simply doesn't extend to magic as Captain Marvel's, Wonder Woman's, or Thor's would.
He's still highly resistant to magic, he's just not nigh-invulnerable against it like anything physical.

Thanos without breaking a sweat or even showing much interest.

I,ve always found it absurd that vampire teeth can penetrate him but not an enchanted attack like Diana's fists or Thor's hammer.

Originally posted by Juntai
He's still highly resistant to magic, he's just not nigh-invulnerable against it like anything physical.

True, but each of those people I've listed are more resistant to magical forces than Superman is, imo.

Originally posted by Allankles
I've always seen this fight as 50/50. Unlike DS Thanos doesn't have powers to negate a speedblitz, he doesn't have an energy blast that can track a target through any space and time.

So Thanos is vulnerable to Supes speed, but Thanos can entrap Supes if he makes an error. So the margin of error for Supes is razor thin, but Thanos margin of victory is also thin, because he's severely outclassed in terms of cqc and speed.

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I also would give DS the majority against Superman. What people don't see is that it's no low-feat to lose to Superman once in a while.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I,ve always found it absurd that vampire teeth can penetrate him but not an enchanted attack like Diana's fists or Thor's hammer.

Well, teeth by nature deal piercing damage (especially vampire fangs), where as a fist and hammer are both dealing blunt physical trauma for the most part. Diana was given life and blessed by the gods, true, but her fists don't deal what I would consider "magical damage". Captain Marvel is in the same boat; the Strength of Hercules comes from magic, but doesn't deal "magic damage" to Superman. Now, if CM charges his fists with magical lightning, likely due to channeling the Power of Zeus, Superman is going to feel it a lot more than he would feel a simple punch from Marvel.

Originally posted by the ninjak
I,ve always found it absurd that vampire teeth can penetrate him but not an enchanted attack like Diana's fists or Thor's hammer.
If Diana's fist and thors hammer were sharp as hell, it would be far worse than vampire teeth.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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I also would give DS the majority against Superman. What people don't see is that it's no low-feat to lose to Superman once in a while.

Losing to Superman isn't a low showing for most people, as he's shown the ability to take on people within and above his weight class with varying degrees of success. That being said, I think Thanos wins more often than not.

Originally posted by BUSTER BLADER!!
If Diana's fist and thors hammer were sharp as hell, it would be far worse than vampire teeth.

Vampire Wolverine FTW
seriously though I can see how Thors hammer hitting Supes would allow him to recuperate.
Compared to vampire teeth simply piercing him easily.
That is a huge weakness that should've been implemented by now.

Thanos: Hi Drac how are you going.
Drac: Leave me.
Thanos: If you give me 100 vampire teeth I'll give you 10 fresh mutants to feed on, I don't care if they are bums!
Drac: It's a deal!

Originally posted by the ninjak
Vampire Wolverine FTW
seriously though I can see how Thors hammer hitting Supes would allow him to recuperate.
Compared to vampire teeth simply piercing him easily.
That is a huge weakness that should've been implemented by now.

Thanos: Hi Drac how are you going.
Drac: Leave me.
Thanos: If you give me 100 vampire teeth I'll give you 10 fresh mutants to feed on, I don't care if they are bums!
Drac: It's a deal!

Bullseye with those teeth would own Supes soo bad. 😄

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Bullseye with those teeth would own Supes soo bad. 😄

Especially after he proved he can hit a teleporter in the last issue of Dark Reign Hawkeye!

Some of Superman's magic resistance feats would make many of the people considered in his 'weight class' proud, while some of them would make them feel ashamed. It's different interpretations of Superman's vulnerability to magic and on any given day he could simply just plow through it and put a beatdown on his enemy or fall down to a vampire. It's the same way with kryptonite or red sun radiation.