Originally posted by h1a8
There are at least millions of levels of Superspeed.I just use logic. If someone can move 5ft before you can move 1in then you have no defense.
If someone can avoid or dodge all your attacks then you have no attack.
If someone can achieve the combo to ko on you then you LOSE.
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Who cares....
Originally posted by h1a8
There are at least millions of levels of Superspeed.I just use logic. If someone can move 5ft before you can move 1in then you have no defense.
If someone can avoid or dodge all your attacks then you have no attack.
If someone can achieve the combo to ko on you then you LOSE.
= Superman >>>>> Galactus.
^^^I think it's a matter of perspective. A DC fan see's Superman go toe to toe with the Darkseid, the presumed dc counter part of Thanos, and hold his own. So to them it's not a strech to say Supes can win vs Thanos. Now to a Marvel fan, it's borderline absurd to think that Supes stands a chance. After all, we've seen Thanos slap around the likes of Thor and the silver surfer (Both of whom a majority of marvel fans see as superior to supes in terms of power sets) with relative ease.
So now we have two views in collision. Either a DC fan has to accept that Thanos is vastly superior to most superman villians; i.e. Darkseid. Or Marvel fans have to accept that Superman is vastly superior to characters that marvel fans consider his peers; i.e. Thor and the Silver Surfer.
Truth is, it's really apples and oranges. It seems to me that DC very often blurs the line within their power tiers. In the dc world supes can overpower Imperiex and dc fans would not only find it believable, they'd cheer as it happened. OTOH, of Thor single handedly overpowered Galactus's worldship, we'd scream PIS and bloody murder loud enough for the heavens to hear.
It's also true that certain Marvel/Dc characters if they were to switch places, would either recieve a significant amp, or become depowered. Supes in Marvel would see a slight decrease in power mostly due to marvels adherence to a somewhat strict hierarchy, while Thor would probably get an amp because of dc's higher priority of god's, magic and the supernatural.
That's my take on it anyway.
Originally posted by dmills
^^^I think it's a matter of perspective. A DC fan see's Superman go toe to toe with the Darkseid, the presumed dc counter part of Thanos, and hold his own. So to them it's not a strech to say Supes can win vs Thanos. Now to a Marvel fan, it's borderline absurd to think that Supes stands a chance. After all, we've seen Thanos slap around the likes of Thor and the silver surfer (Both of whom a majority of marvel fans see as superior to supes in terms of power sets) with relative ease.So now we have two views in collision. Either a DC fan has to accept that Thanos is vastly superior to most superman villians; i.e. Darkseid. Or Marvel fans have to accept that Superman is vastly superior to characters that marvel fans consider his peers; i.e. Thor and the Silver Surfer.
Truth is, it's really apples and oranges. It seems to me that DC very often blurs the line within their power tiers. In the dc world supes can overpower Imperiex and dc fans would not only find it believable, they'd cheer as it happened. OTOH, of Thor single handedly overpowered Galactus's worldship, we'd scream PIS and bloody murder loud enough for the heavens to hear.
It's also true that certain Marvel/Dc characters if they were to switch places, would either recieve a significant amp, or become depowered. Supes in Marvel would see a slight decrease in power mostly due to marvels adherence to a somewhat strict hierarchy, while Thor would probably get an amp because of dc's higher priority of god's, magic and the supernatural.
That's my take on it anyway.
Thanos actually has feats that put him above Superman, especially in his early battles with Drax. There is one where Drax and Thanos clash and the entire planet explodes on them, Thanos is still standing. I've just never seen a post crisis Superman destroy a planet by clashing with an opponent. I did see Superman Prime fly through the center of an Earth and bust it but that is a focused attack on the core. Thanos and Drax simply busted it with strength alone from their collision.
Even if I accepted that Supes was physically superior to Thanos...I'd just go with Thanos because he has mental powers that can subdue his opponents like he did to Maker (lobotomized) and Fallen One (made a slave). Then there is the energy manipulation that Thanos has, that happens to be good enough to rock Galactus. It is kind of like a Thanos supporter can pick a multitude of ways for Thanos to stomp Superman while a Supes fan has to go with speedblitzing and fists because thats all Supes does in every fight. Even arguing for a speedblitz is difficult since Supes gets hit by people far below his speed cap all the time. Thanos also has shields to prevent being blitzed and physically hit.
Darksied =/= Thanos. Darkseid seems to bang it out with Supes and come out short, but Thanos tends to use strategy to overcome his foes. Thanos also has an excellent track record against Superman type opponents like Thor and Surfer, while Superman usually gets beaten before he comes back and wins (Mongul, Darkseid, etc). First encounter with Thanos he'll get stomped terribly, I dont think he'll come back for a second.