Thanos vs Superman

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I agree Thanos wins but to me it seems obvious you'd have a harder time proving Thanos's strength than you would Superman's.

I agree if you ONLY look at lifting feats and comparing the two. However, people who use logic and common sense like yourself, must conclude a number of things that don't involve looking at just lifting feats. Looking at stuff like Thanos being a villian and superman being a hero to name one simple and obvious fact. So, while I agree with you, I think you also understand the counter points of common sense and logic

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I agree if you ONLY look at lifting feats and comparing the two. However, people who use logic and common sense like yourself, must conclude a number of things that don't involve looking at just lifting feats. Looking at stuff like Thanos being a villian and superman being a hero to name one simple and obvious fact. So, while I agree with you, I think you also understand the counter points of common sense and logic

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I agree if you ONLY look at lifting feats and comparing the two. However, people who use logic and common sense like yourself, must conclude a number of things that don't involve looking at just lifting feats. Looking at stuff like Thanos being a villian and superman being a hero to name one simple and obvious fact. So, while I agree with you, I think you also understand the counter points of common sense and logic

If a strength feat is required, everybody will go to Superman, not Thanos, even if they knew Thanos would be glad to help.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Striking power I'd give to Thanos (though he amps his punches quite a bit) but in a tug of war or a wrestling match Superman would win.

Tug of war I disagree with but I could see that. A wrestling match... no way.. I don't see that. Do you believe Superman is stronger Omega?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Tug of war I disagree with but I could see that. A wrestling match... no way.. I don't see that. Do you believe Superman is stronger Omega?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
In terms of raw lifting strength? Definitely.

Question then...

your basing this on the fact that superman has such feats and thanos doesn't..

Yet don't you agree that Thanos won't have lifting feats being that he's not a hero right?

what has Thanos failed to lift that gives you the impression he couldn't accomplish some of supes lifting feats?

don't you think that Thanos overpowering people like Hulk, Thor, Drax, Herc etc etc who have impressive lifting feats comparable to Supes.. means that he is stronger than them. You don't think Thor, Drax or Herc etc are stronge than Thanos do you? Then by the same token how do you think supes is?

Hulk is way stronger than Thanos, especially when he is angry. Thanos has yet to prove he is stronger than Hulk.

Everything Thanos has done strength wise, Hulk can do also. The same for Superman.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Hulk is way stronger than Thanos, especially when he is angry. Thanos has yet to prove he is stronger than Hulk.

Everything Thanos has done strength wise, Hulk can do also. The same for Superman.

Huh? The only time they were locked up in a test of strength Thanos MOCKED Hulk and Thing's strength AT THE SAME TIME. So where you get that Hulk is stronger and yet to prove he's stronger I have no clue. He has proven he is "stronger"

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Huh? The only time they were locked up in a test of strength Thanos MOCKED Hulk and Thing's strength AT THE SAME TIME. So where you get that Hulk is stronger and yet to prove he's stronger I have no clue. He has proven he is "stronger"

...and that's it more or less. It did absolutely nothing.

Nothing Hercules couldn't do. Or Thor. Or Gladiator. Or Surfer. Or Wonderman. Or Superman. I think even Namor could do it. On a good day, maybe even Colossus.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Are you talking about professor Hulk ? Let's see, IIRC he grabbed Things head and Professors Hulks head and...

...and that's it more or less. It did absolutely nothing.

Nothing Hercules couldn't do. Or Thor. Or Gladiator. Or Surfer. Or Wonderman. Or Superman. I think even Namor could do it. On a good day, maybe even Colossus.

Your not understanding something very key here... What do you think the writer was trying to convey with the art and narration? Thanos says "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" as he's grabbing Hulk and Thing at the same time while they are trying to resist being smashed together. This line wasn't just thrown in there by accident. The writer and artist were trying to convey a very clear message... Thanos is just that strong that he can mock people renowed for being really strong.

It's kind of like I said in an earlier post, Thanos would not need to rely soley on strength to beat Superman, he could assault Superman with both magics, and telepathy, and then his strength comes into affect.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Your not understanding something very key here... What do you think the writer was trying to convey with the art and narration? Thanos says "you call yourselves strong, I'm strength personified" as he's grabbing Hulk and Thing at the same time while they are trying to resist being smashed together. This line wasn't just thrown in there by accident. The writer and artist were trying to convey a very clear message... Thanos is just that strong that he can mock people renowed for being really strong.

It's just macho talk, please don't overanalyze it. If the writer and artist wanted to make something clear, they would just have Thanos completely destroy Hulk. Which he didn't.

By the way, what about these messages:

- I've avoided Hulk for years (same writer)

or

- Thor can give Thanos a good scrap any old time (same writer)

Any hidden messages here ? It's pretty clear to me.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
A very clear message from the writer and artist ? Come again ?

It's just macho talk, please don't overanalyze it. If the writer and artist wanted to make something clear, they would just have Thanos completely destroy Hulk. Which he didn't.

By the way, what about these messages:

- I've avoided Hulk for years (same writer)

or

- Thor can give Thanos a good scrap any old time (same writer)

Any hidden messages here ? It's pretty clear to me.

Yes the writers clear intent is correct. So you're saying he put that line in there by mistake? Is that what you are saying? If not, then the clear presentation of the comic makes it clear what the writer was trying to convey... Thanos OVERPOWERS TWO RENOWED STRONG characters with ease. He even mocks their strength while doing it. It couldn't be more clear and shits all over the examples you just gave.

Are you joking.. lets explore the differences here...

1. The was simply saying what any intelligent preson would.. Why would you seek to fight a big green super strong guy for no reason? That is all that he was saying, but on panel evidence makes it clear he isn't scared of hulk or would run away from fighting him. There is the scene in question where he overpowers and tools him. There is also the scene with Hulk, Herc, Thing, Thor running at him and Thanos has a smile on his face. He has proven that his statement was nothing more than what any intelligent person would say. He doesn't go looking to go h2h with Hulk... duh.. Yet when they have met he's made him look like a weak feeb and smiled at him.

2. Thor... The same Thor that got two shot by Thanos during his weakest incarnation? Clearly that line didn't factor that in and is a clear contradiction to that. Just like Thor never being able to beat Thanos.. EVER and Thanos looking at him like a joke most of their encounters. The fact remains that yet again... that line means very little.. He's saying Thor can give Thanos a good ol fight... wow.. that is impressive to you. He didn't say he could win.. or thanos is scared of Thor.. he said Thor can give him a good scrap..lol. This is far far removed from... "You call yourselves strong I am strength personified" while ACTUALLY treating Hulk and Thing like weak feebs. Huge Huge differences.

Not that this has anything to do with anything, but Thanos' strength can and would be surpassed by the Hulk given time, can the Hulk beat Thanos? Not likely. Thanos is so much more than a strength type character. Thanos can use magic, project mind assaults, and has a variety of other powers at his disposal, and the tech to get the job done when facing guys that he could just bfr.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Question then...

your basing this on the fact that superman has such feats and thanos doesn't..

Yet don't you agree that Thanos won't have lifting feats being that he's not a hero right?

what has Thanos failed to lift that gives you the impression he couldn't accomplish some of supes lifting feats?

don't you think that Thanos overpowering people like Hulk, Thor, Drax, Herc etc etc who have impressive lifting feats comparable to Supes.. means that he is stronger than them. You don't think Thor, Drax or Herc etc are stronge than Thanos do you? Then by the same token how do you think supes is?

Is that a no-limits fallacy I detect? Don't try projecting feats, it does not become you.

Has he ever actually beaten any of these people in a contest of pure strength? Has he beaten Hulk or Thor in an arm-wrestling competition? I'm not arguing he couldn't beat Superman in h/h, its certainly possible (I don't personally think he could take a majority that way), I am arguing that there's no real evidence for Thanos being physically stronger in terms of raw strength than Superman. Only extrapolation and speculation.

Supes wins, too fast.

Thanos has ben stabbed by Wolverine and had his heart ripped out. Superman punches Thanos in the chest which leaves an exit wound the size of a car tire in his back. This all happens before Thanos blinks.

biscuits

Originally posted by Badabing
Supes wins, too fast.

Thanos has ben stabbed by Wolverine and had his heart ripped out. Superman punches Thanos in the chest which leaves an exit wound the size of a car tire in his back. This all happens before Thanos blinks.

biscuits

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Bada hasn't been acting like bada lately.

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Originally posted by Badabing
Well, this is how I posted before I was a mod.

The forum has been really good so I can finally enjoy being on KMC again. durbeware

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So this is the real bada?