Thanos vs Superman

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Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
It's very simple.

Thanos is slow. Compared to Superman he's a sleepwalking snail. The Thanos fanboys can't stand this simple fact and are desperately seeking some kind of feat that will prove once and for all Thanos also has superhuman reflexes and such.

I am not impressed by their statements however, because nothing indicated that Fallen One was going real, real fast.

Like I said, maye the same speed as a flying Rogue, or Iron Man. I don't know. You don't know either, but don't make it sound like it was this huge speed feat, because it really wasn't.

Bottom line is, if you consider that as a speed feat, every hero or villain suddenly has thousands extra speed feats, because they all do stuff like that on a daily basis.

I agree, he isn't CLOSE to being as fast as Supes but he will hit Supes. Thanos has some good reactions, reactions enough to tag him. He also have high end durablity... enough to withstand blows from Supes until he does land that lick.

Is Superman fast... sure is, is he untouchable... hell no. I would give Superman the first 4 hits, after that, Thanos lands a lick of his own (a hard one too).

CIS is a huge factor in this fight and you are basically looking at Supes high showings concerning his speed while ignoring his normal portrayal.

Using your route... the same argument can be made on Thanos side. Thanos can stand there and let Superman punch on him all day and actually sit down and read a book while this is going on since Thanos was tanking attacks from a pissed off Odin and we all know that Supes doesn't come close to that kind of power.

In regards to this fight, Thanos gets the majority but he sure as hell would fight for it just like he would fight for it if this was Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, he isn't CLOSE to being as fast as Supes but he will hit Supes. Thanos has some good reactions, reactions enough to tag him. He also have high end durablity... enough to withstand blows from Supes until he does land that lick.

Is Superman fast... sure is, is he untouchable... hell no. I would give Superman the first 4 hits, after that, Thanos lands a lick of his own (a hard one too).

CIS is a huge factor in this fight and you are basically looking at Supes high showings concerning his speed while ignoring his normal portrayal.

Using your route... the same argument can be made on Thanos side. Thanos can stand there and let Superman punch on him all day and actually sit down and read a book while this is going on since Thanos was tanking attacks from a pissed off Odin and we all know that Supes doesn't come close to that kind of power.

In regards to this fight, Thanos gets the majority but he sure as hell would fight for it just like he would fight for it if this was Thor.


Yeah but forum rules say both characters fight at the best of their abilities. So it's a bit unfair to assume Superman will not use his super speed.

I agree more or less with the rest of your post, but concerning the Odin-fight: Thanos was tanking his attacks, true, but that doesn't mean an autowin for Thanos when fighting Superman.

It's not because your durability is extremely high, your opponent might just as well give up. When taking Supermans best showings into consideration, I think he would also have done pretty well when fighting Odin under the same circumstances.

Not win of course.

Kurdy did you actually read the comic where Thanos stopped Fallen One's blitz? I honestly don't think you did. There are a few key points you don't seem to be grasping....

First, Galactus heralds AREN"T slow, and in fact, have light speed travel. This has been shown by various heralds, which of course makes sense, since ya know.. they have to go seek planets for him to feed on. Unless of course you believe they have flight like rogue and would take hundreds of years to get to other universes to find planets. That borders on stupidity to think that way. Thus, the Fallen One being fast is a given, when you look at all heralds history. However, you don't even need to do that.. Now lets look at what else indicates his speed.. other then it stating he is stated on panel to be travel at trans light.... Well.. bullrushing IS his thing.. that is his go to move... Travel really fast.. really quickly.. and destroy whatever is in your path. He did this to Thanos's ship and a planet prior to trying the SAME move on Thanos. Clearly, to pull such a move off.. you need to traveling extremely fast and have good durability to pull off such moves. He tried it on Thanos... Thanos REACTED before he could do so.. It's most certainly a reaction feat if you actually read the comic.

Now lets look at some other feats... Now we know the properites of energy blasts and why many times they should be considered ftl by default considering their make-up. However, that is another argument for another time. Lets just say they travel REALLY fast. Thanos at point blank range to the Maker.. Backhanded a blast she was firing at him. Now considering distance and the fact that energy blasts move very fast... that is another reaction feat.

Thor's hammer being thrown has on panel been stated to be ftl... Now for the sake of argument lets just say he can clearly throw it really fast. Maybe in these instances it was ftl.. maybe it wasn't.. it was never stated. But we know he throws his hammer really fast... Thanos has stopped the hammer from ever reaching him two times on panel. His hands are down at his side after Thor throws it... mid flight Thanos has raised his hand quick enough to stop the hammer mid flight. Another clear indication he faster than superhuman reflexes.

There is the other famous scene where Thanos is battling mercs h2h.. a great number of them... You see his hands moving really fast.. in fact they are blurry as he's putting mercs one after another. Clearly, indicating he can move his hands really quickly.. which as the above shows in very consistent with Thanos. What can we conclude... Thanos has very good reaction speed and has demonstrated this time and time again. He will be able to react to superman.. superman will get hit.. superman will go down. Period.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yeah but forum rules say both characters fight at the best of their abilities. So it's a bit unfair to assume Superman will not use his super speed.

I agree more or less with the rest of your post, but concerning the Odin-fight: Thanos was tanking his attacks, true, but that doesn't mean an autowin for Thanos when fighting Superman.

It's not because your durability is extremely high, your opponent might just as well give up. When taking Supermans best showings into consideration, I think he would also have done pretty well when fighting Odin under the same circumstances.

Not win of course.

I agree... Superman would use his speed... what I am disagreeing with is him fighting Thanos as if he is a statue... its not happening.

How much more durable is Doomsday over Thanos and Odin? The reason I ask is because I know for a fact that Superman will not pull his punches against Doomsday and his punches weren't even budging him as seen below.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7044680/Action_900_Legion_CPS_009.jpg.html

Originally posted by carver9
I agree... Superman would use his speed... what I am disagreeing with is him fighting Thanos as if he is a statue... its not happening.

How much more durable is Doomsday over Thanos and Odin? The reason I ask is because I know for a fact that Superman will not pull his punches against Doomsday and his punches weren't even budging him as seen below.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7044680/Action_900_Legion_CPS_009.jpg.html


There are different types of durability.
1. Durability to mental attacks
2. Durability against piercing attacks
3. Durability to blunt force attacks
4. Durability to energy projection A
5. Etc.

With that said, with the exception of shields, DD is more durable than Odin and definitely Thanos as well in the physical blunt force area.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree... Superman would use his speed... what I am disagreeing with is him fighting Thanos as if he is a statue... its not happening.

How much more durable is Doomsday over Thanos and Odin? The reason I ask is because I know for a fact that Superman will not pull his punches against Doomsday and his punches weren't even budging him as seen below.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7044680/Action_900_Legion_CPS_009.jpg.html

That's not Superman.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not Superman.

👆

Originally posted by carver9
I agree... Superman would use his speed... what I am disagreeing with is him fighting Thanos as if he is a statue... its not happening.

How much more durable is Doomsday over Thanos and Odin? The reason I ask is because I know for a fact that Superman will not pull his punches against Doomsday and his punches weren't even budging him as seen below.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7044680/Action_900_Legion_CPS_009.jpg.html

Carver did you read the comic or are you just posting a scan from someone else? 😑

Originally posted by carver9
The reason I ask is because I know for a fact that Superman will not pull his punches against Doomsday and his punches weren't even budging him as seen below.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7044680/Action_900_Legion_CPS_009.jpg.html

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not Superman.

crylaugh

Originally posted by kevdude
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Carver did you read the comic or are you just posting a scan from someone else? 😑

I read the story but it was kind of confusing. Supes fought lex and I seen him pulled from Earth by lex but then I seen that scene as well which kind of threw me off. Who is that Eradicator or Cyborg?

Originally posted by carver9
I read the story but it was kind of confusing. Supes fought lex and I seen him pulled from Earth by lex but then I seen that scene as well which kind of threw me off. Who is that Eradicator or Cyborg?

Eradicator.

It wasn't confusing to me. biscuits

Originally posted by carver9
I read the story but it was kind of confusing. Supes fought lex and I seen him pulled from Earth by lex but then I seen that scene as well which kind of threw me off. Who is that Eradicator or Cyborg?
It is Cyborg for sure.

I don't see Superman's speed as that much of a problem

Thanos has reacted and lifted his shields against a bullrushing "no mercy" Surfer perfectly fine. [notice the energy bolt was shot before Thanos has his shields up]
http://i53.tinypic.com/30bh5jn.jpg

He also dodged a point blank energy shot by Surfer via teleportation.
http://i53.tinypic.com/qxp0lg.jpg

Reacted perfectly fine against Ganymede who's blitzed Surfer successfully for a while.
http://i55.tinypic.com/35d1f15.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2lc3g3.jpg

Superman's speed will definitely allow him to dodge some of Thanos' shots, but what's stopping Thanos from using multiple wide range energy blasts?
http://i51.tinypic.com/2ahh36v.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/8vrl3t.jpg

I can also see Thanos get bored of the fight and BFR Superman with a wave of his hand like he does to Spiderman and Silver Surfer.
http://i54.tinypic.com/212yi6v.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
Eradicator.

It wasn't confusing to me. biscuits

😕

I just received 2 different answers... you say Eradicator and kgkg states Cyborg.

I guess I'm not the only one confused. 😛

Originally posted by carver9
😕

I just received 2 different answers... you say Eradicator and kgkg states Cyborg.

I guess I'm not the only one confused. 😛

Eradicator is the one punching Doomsday. Cyborg is fighting with Steel.

Originally posted by vince_slice
I don't see Superman's speed as that much of a problem

Thanos has reacted and lifted his shields against a bullrushing "no mercy" Surfer perfectly fine. [notice the energy bolt was shot before Thanos has his shields up]
http://i53.tinypic.com/30bh5jn.jpg

He also dodged a point blank energy shot by Surfer via teleportation.
http://i53.tinypic.com/qxp0lg.jpg

Reacted perfectly fine against Ganymede who's blitzed Surfer successfully for a while.
http://i55.tinypic.com/35d1f15.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/2lc3g3.jpg

Superman's speed will definitely allow him to dodge some of Thanos' shots, but what's stopping Thanos from using multiple wide range energy blasts?
http://i51.tinypic.com/2ahh36v.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/8vrl3t.jpg

I can also see Thanos get bored of the fight and BFR Superman with a wave of his hand like he does to Spiderman and Silver Surfer.
http://i54.tinypic.com/212yi6v.jpg

QFT

Originally posted by -Pr-
Eradicator is the one punching Doomsday. Cyborg is fighting with Steel.

Yeah, I see it now when I went back to look. Thanks for the info (I have a feeling you are about to post a smart alack comment).

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, I see it now when I went back to look. Thanks for the info (I have a feeling you are about to post a smart alack comment).

I'll save it for later.

Originally posted by carver9
😕

I just received 2 different answers... you say Eradicator and kgkg states Cyborg.

I guess I'm not the only one confused. 😛

Your going to trust Pr over me?

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not Superman.

😆

Not at all surprised by Carver's post.

Originally posted by Diesldude
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Not at all surprised by Carver's post.

Do I know you?