Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It doesn't matter. Until You see Marvel Top tiers doing things like Damage, absorbing enough energy to restart the universe, Kyle Stopping a big bang, Superman zipping thru planets with ease, The sheer rediculous feats of Hal jordan, then no, they aren't even close. When has Thor ever collapsed a fifth of a universe like Orion or the Demon?
Again with the stupid claim that Orion and Demon colapsed a 5th of the Universe? You already said, they had backup, whatever the heck that happen. And i almost bet it wasent post crisis.
Post it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly he's not a top tier. he's beyond that. He can't even be used in this. And yes, Captain atom or Takion could match that. Ion can as well.
Genis only did the re-writing once though. He really didn't have much aside from that that would make him above the top tier. Hell, Sentry stalemated him.
Originally posted by olympian
And most of these done it with energy. But yet you discount feats where Thanos uses energy, like trowing down Galactus.Again with the stupid claim that Orion and Demon colapsed a 5th of the Universe? You already said, they had backup, whatever the heck that happen. And i almost bet it wasent post crisis.
Post it.
It was part of the great odessy third installment i believe. It was also post crisis. Thanks.
Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Genis only did the re-writing once though. He really didn't have much aside from that that would make him above the top tier. Hell, Sentry stalemated him.
Keep this a little secret.I have always thought Sentry was more powerful than SUperman. Like Superman with a quantum bands and Tp.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYou said anyone with Morg's power could fight Tyrant, thats a lie. You think Morg could go toe-to-toe with Tyrant?
What the hell are you ****ing talking about? Why are you saying I"m lying when All I did was say we dont' know what the **** thanos used the orb for. He obviously needed it for something. Dont' ****ing ever call me a liar again when all I did was pose that Thanos used the orb. And one more thing, the orbs were already configured to be used to amp the user. Hence why Tyrant had them in the first place.2ndly, Superman and WW knocked back A Quantum Zealot who was EXPECTING THIER ATTACK. Tell me they can't knock back Galactus unsuspectingly. Please do. A Quantum Zealot who alone had the power to tear up a Ship the size of at least a galaxy. They could knock back an unsuspecting Galactus. Just as Thanos did. And yes KYLE could stand up to odin. Unless you think ODin's power is more than a universal big bang. If kyle had prep time as Thanos did, kyle would be ready for Odin and could stand up to ODin. Thanos feats are NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE given that he has used tech, caught people off guard, fought a jobbing Odin, and beat several fighters who couldn't even fly or have superspeed.
If you really think Kyle could give ODIN a good fight you're out of your mind. And no, Superman or Wonder Woman are not hitting a well fed Galactus with 1 hit and sending him HUNDREDS of feet back and damaging his armour, no way, no how, never, ever.
Originally posted by Wally West
You said anyone with Morg's power could fight Tyrant, thats a lie. You think Morg could go toe-to-toe with Tyrant?If you really think Kyle could give ODIN a good fight you're out of your mind. And no, Superman or Wonder Woman are not hitting a well fed Galactus with 1 hit and sending him HUNDREDS of feet back and damaging his armour, no way, no how, never, ever.
No I dont' think Morg could go toe to toe with Tyrant, But I do think Any top tier being with Morgs power added to thier own can stand up to tyrant for a lil while. Thanos never went toe to toe. And I do think That Kyle with Prep could give odin one hell of a fight. Especially seeing as how kyle is way more versatile thatn THanos and has higher feats than thanos. As far as your assesment of Superman and WW's combined might. Well let's just say that an angry quantum Mechanic is on par with a well fed Galactus. And they knocked the shit out of him and he was expecting thier hit.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No I dont' think Morg could go toe to toe with Tyrant, But I do think Any top tier being with Morgs power added to thier own can stand up to tyrant for a lil while. Thanos never went toe to toe. And I do think That Kyle with Prep could give odin one hell of a fight. Especially seeing as how kyle is way more versatile thatn THanos and has higher feats than thanos. As far as your assesment of Superman and WW's combined might. Well let's just say that an angry quantum Mechanic is on par with a well fed Galactus. And they knocked the shit out of him and he was expecting thier hit.
How about you make two threads, Kyle v Odin, and Wonder Woman and Superman v Galactus, and see what the general consensus is.
Originally posted by Wally West
But again, there is nothing to indicate that orb gave Thanos his own power with ALL of Morg's power added on top, he used the orb for a couple of energy blasts and punches. He clearly didn't get everything out of that orb as he was hooking it up to machines and things after the Tyrant fight, if it was simply a case of holding the orb gives you Morg's power he wouldn't need any further experiments on it and it would probably have given him a perminant power up.How about you make two threads, Kyle v Odin, and Wonder Woman and Superman v Galactus, and see what the general consensus is.
How about those two threads would be stupid. As I never said Superman and WW could beat Galactus. I said they could knock him back if he wasn't expecing thier hit. And Kyle By all rights should be able to stand up to odin. But not once did I say defeat him. So exactly what is your point again? There is also nothing to indicate the Orb didn't enhance Thanos's Durabilty or strength. And didn't we read the same book? Tyrant could have given two shits about thanos. He even laughed at him in the end.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThe idea that the orb enhanced his durability and own power is stupid, he was seeking Tyrant for a challenge and was satisified after the fight because he withstood Tyrant, that indicates he did it under his own power which is why he is satisfied. If Thanos wanted to go and find some all powerful weapon to beat Tyrant he could have, hes done that sort of thing before, but he wanted a challenge for his own power, that was the point in the fight. Tyrant himself says Thanos is more than the others, he says nothing about the orb making him so.
There is also nothing to indicate the Orb didn't enhance Thanos's Durabilty or strength. And didn't we read the same book? Tyrant could have given two shits about thanos. He even laughed at him in the end.
Originally posted by Wally West
The idea that the orb enhanced his durability and own power is stupid, he was seeking Tyrant for a challenge and was satisified after the fight because he withstood Tyrant, that indicates he did it under his own power which is why he is satisfied. If Thanos wanted to go and find some all powerful weapon to beat Tyrant he could have, hes done that sort of thing before, but he wanted a challenge for his own power, that was the point in the fight. Tyrant himself says Thanos is more than the others, he says nothing about the orb making him so.
But it was morg that Tyrant was most intersted in keeping and morg that Galactus wanted back. It was also morg's power that Thanos used. And Thanos was really testing his intelligence. He found out all he could about tyrant and was really trying to see if he could steal Tyrant's orb. It had nothing to do with his ability to survive. he knows he's rejected by Death. It is evident that morg thought little of Thanos. he laughed at him at the end of the arc.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But it was morg that Tyrant was most intersted in keeping and morg that Galactus wanted back. It was also morg's power that Thanos used. And Thanos was really testing his intelligence. He found out all he could about tyrant and was really trying to see if he could steal Tyrant's orb. It had nothing to do with his ability to survive. he knows he's rejected by Death. It is evident that morg thought little of Thanos. he laughed at him at the end of the arc.
He wasn't rejected by Death at tha point either.
Tyrant laughed at the end because he had tons of those spheres, I don't see what that adds to this discussion.
Originally posted by Wally West
Nothing to do with his ability to survive? "Further struggle is pointless, I have withstood you". If all Thanos cared about was the orb he could have teleported away the second he obtained it, he was interested in pitting his power against Tyrant, the whole reason he sought Tyrant out was for a worthy challenge for his power, its all right there on panel.He wasn't rejected by Death at tha point either.
Tyrant laughed at the end because he had tons of those spheres, I don't see what that adds to this discussion.
Tyrant Laughed at Thanos becuz thanos thought he had gotten THE orb of power. If you look at the panel, Tyrant had a huge orb that thanos knew nothing about. Thanos was testing his intelligence as he thought he was clever enough to get the orb. If he were testing just his ability to survive, surely he dind't need to use that orb for that.