Thanos vs Superman

Started by Bentley399 pages

Thanos is a walking plot device, his so called jobbings are caused by things that actually happen between the universe and that make sense. I agree that his battles arent straight but its not the same kind of jobbing done against Captain America. Thanos is justified because he is uber-smart, the Cap because he is the hero.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
How can people job to you when you're more powerful?

I could have known you wouldn't understand it.

If I were Silver Surfer, Thanos would NEVER beat me. I wouldn't beat him either, mind you, he's too powerful, but I just don't understand how one of the FASTEST characters in the whole Marvel Universe - with cosmic awareness people - always manages to fly into Thanos' big fists.

Geez, that's so stupid. If you really have to fight the man, use your brain Norrin, and fight him from at least a certain distance. Thanos isn't exactly the best long distance fighter ever.

And use your Godlike powers for a change, instead of your boring blasts that just don't work.

Why is it that such a powerful character as Surfer always likes to fight Thanos Real Close ? That doesn't make any sense.

That's why we call it (all together) a Jobber aura. Some people fight stupid when confronted with Thanos.

Superman can just fly in the air - or in space ! - and fry Thanos' ass with his heat vision. Thanos wouldn't know what hit him. He also wouldn't be able to grab Superman.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I could have known you wouldn't understand it.

If I were Silver Surfer, Thanos would NEVER beat me. I wouldn't beat him either, mind you, he's too powerful, but I just don't understand how one of the FASTEST characters in the whole Marvel Universe - with cosmic awareness people - always manages to fly into Thanos' big fists.

Geez, that's so stupid. If you really have to fight the man, use your brain Norrin, and fight him from at least a certain distance. Thanos isn't exactly the best long distance fighter ever.

And use your Godlike powers for a change, instead of your boring blasts that just don't work.

Why is it that such a powerful character as Surfer always likes to fight Thanos Real Close ? That doesn't make any sense.

That's why we call it (all together) a Jobber aura. Some people fight stupid when confronted with Thanos.

Superman can just fly in the air - or in space ! - and fry Thanos' ass with his heat vision. Thanos wouldn't know what hit him. He also wouldn't be able to grab Superman.

You are aware that Thanos has the ability to form shields in front of him, right?

Oh, you didn't know about it, so it's a new power?

You wanna know what happened the first time Thanos and Surfer met? Surfer blasted him all out, and Thanos looked at him like he was a moron. What did he say?

"Are you done?"

So, energy blasts are out of the picture. Norrin knows that his only option is to go to the fists, and he'll get punked. Also, it's painfully obvious that you don't read Silver Surfer, so I'll tell you the context of most of their encounters: Surfer has no choice but to take Thanos down, because he's a threat to the universe.

He has no other option. If the most powerful hero in the MU runs from him, what does that say?

Also, nobody fights stupid when they fight Thanos. He just schools them. If you had even read even one of his comics, you would know that most people are going all out. This is a guy who nearly matched the energies of the In-Betweener with the Soul Gem, got bored with Thor when Thor had the power gem, outsmarted the Elders of the Universe, etc.

There's no jobbing. There never was. You're just going to claim it because of your ignorance and lack of knowledge.

Thanos wouldn't necessarily be a sitting duck if someone fought him at a distance. He puts up his forcefields and no heat vision from Superman or cosmic blasts from Surfer are getting through. And he could hit them with a telepathic attack (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Thanos10i.jpg) or fire an energy blast after you and direct it towards you (bottom right: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/CaptainMarvel31i.jpg). He stuck Odin in a block of pure force without touching him, he could do the same to Surfer or Superman. If he hits you with a blast he could bind you in cosmic energies etc. It doesn't all have to be punches.

Oh noes Wally! It's a new power!

It's only been around for ten years. 😠

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
You are aware that Thanos has the ability to form shields in front of him, right?

Yes my dear boy, I know that. And when Superman attacks him from space, how are his shields gonna help beat him Superman ?

Hmm ? Is he gonna hide forever behind those shields of his ?

And how does he know when Superman is about to attack ? Spider-sense ? Or does he always have his shields on, Juggernaut style ?

There, some food for thought.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

Yes my dear boy, I know that. And when Superman attacks him from space, how are his shields gonna help beat him Superman ?[/B]

He encloses him in energy.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

Hmm ? Is he gonna hide forever behind those shields of his ?

And how does he know when Superman is about to attack ? Spider-sense ? Or does he always have his shields on, Juggernaut style ?[/B]

He can easily track people moving fast. He's been doing that for years.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
There, some food for thought. [/B]

Not really. The only food for thought is how completely and utterly ignorant you are.

How about he just pwns his ass telepathically? He CAN match telepathy with Moondragon and even go against Galactus for a while.

And Thanos isn't slowpoke, his reactions are fast enough to block stuff like blast from Surfer with his hand. Just because he doesn't zip around with lighspeed (He can't fly) doesn't mean that his reaction speeds can't be good.

He could use telekenesis as well:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Thanos12i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/Thanos12ii.jpg

Directing a ton of asteroids at Fallen One, a (gasp) flying opponent. Like I said, distance doesn't automatically make Thanos helpless.

Killing a room full of guards without touching them by releasing a burst of radiation:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/thanos2i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/thanos2ii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/thanos2iii.jpg

Again, doesn't have to touch his opponent to cause damage.

Originally posted by Wally West
Directing a ton of asteroids at Fallen One, a (gasp) flying opponent. Like I said, distance doesn't automatically make Thanos helpless.

No, but Superman has the advantage here.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He encloses him in energy.

So now he can enclose his enemies in pure energy, even if he doesn't know where they are and are flying somewhere in space ? Wow.

I'm sure you can back this rather bold statement up with some nice scans.

He can easily track people moving fast. He's been doing that for years.

Have I been talking about speed ? Nope. You dodged the question.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And Thanos isn't slowpoke, his reactions are fast enough to block stuff like blast from Surfer with his hand. Just because he doesn't zip around with lighspeed (He can't fly) doesn't mean that his reaction speeds can't be good.

They are good - I think. But he has no real super fast reflexes, not like Superman or so.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
No, but Superman has the advantage here.
Flying gives Superman one advantage but its not decisive enough to give him the advantage in the whole fight given Thanos' variety of powers. If this was Hawkman fighting Thanos would his flight give him the advantage? Of course not.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
So now he can enclose his enemies in pure energy, even if he doesn't know where they are and are flying somewhere in space ? Wow.

I already posted the Odin fight, where he does it. You just have trouble reading.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I'm sure you can back this rather bold statement up with some nice scans.

I've backed up my entire argument with them. You just have trouble reading.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Have I been talking about speed ? Nope. You dodged the question.

No, but I knew where it was going. Flight has NEVER given anyone a sizeable advantage against Thanos, and Superman is not a question.

Quit being ignorant.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I already posted the Odin fight, where he does it. You just have trouble reading.

No he hasn't. Not like I described it.

Liar.

No, but I knew where it was going. Flight has NEVER given anyone a sizeable advantage against Thanos

Because most people don't use their "flying powers" against Thanos.

Originally posted by Wally West
Flying gives Superman one advantage but its not decisive enough to give him the advantage in the whole fight given Thanos' variety of powers. If this was Hawkman fighting Thanos would his flight give him the advantage? Of course not.

Hawk Man doesn't have the ability to fly thru planets like they are cheese and withstand double black holes either. Not really a fair comparison. Superman loses, but Thanos won't have an easy go of it. I wonder How thanos would fair if he had to fight Superman near the SUn like DS did.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

No he hasn't. Not like I described it.

Liar.

[/B]

Liar, am I? You're the one who can't read. Look at the Thanos/Odin fight again and tell me Thanos can't do it. You're grasping at straws.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

Because most people don't use their "flying powers" against Thanos. [/B]

Yeah, only most of the people who fight him. 🙄

It becomes more painfully obvious, day by day, that you have never read any of his appearances.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hawk Man doesn't have the ability to fly thru planets like they are cheese and withstand double black holes either. Not really a fair comparison. Superman loses, but Thanos won't have an easy go of it. I wonder How thanos would fair if he had to fight Superman near the SUn like DS did.
Thanos wouldn't be stupid enough to let Superman drag him all the way to the sun like Darkseid was.

Originally posted by Wally West
Thanos wouldn't be stupid enough to let Superman drag him all the way to the sun like Darkseid was.

If Thanos doen't know where SUperman's powers come from, He may think it's cute. Or he could get zipped to a near by sun in less than a minute where the fight would continue. I don't think THanos has any Unmovable power. At least none that I"m aware of.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy Because most people don't use their "flying powers" against Thanos.

Bwahahaha have you ever read one comic with Thanos in it? Because I am having doubts that you have.

Let me think...
Thor
Silver Surfer
The Fallen One
the list goes on... and on... and on.

Your statements are becoming more ridiculous over time. It helps your defense if you at least read the comics that the character is in, which you obviously have not.