Thanos vs Superman

Originally posted by darthgoober
What is all this talk about Supes flying into space to shoot? See because if that happened, Thanos would do nothing more than smile. Why you ask? Because at that point Supes has left the field of combat deliberately.

So if Supes goes into space, he loses. 🙂

^^ co-signed. Superman isn't going to do guerilla warfare, that's not his style. If Superman acted like that, then DOS would have never happened, he would just have hovered in outer space blasting Doomsday with heat vision.

Originally posted by Kutulu
^^ co-signed. Superman isn't going to do guerilla warfare, that's not his style. If Superman acted like that, then DOS would have never happened, he would just have hovered in outer space blasting Doomsday with heat vision.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He "follows the source."

I like that. Thanos following a faster than light speed source, I'd like to see that. I really do.

Originally posted by Wally West
In the Annihilation Prologue Thanos was waiting at the edge of the universe because he could feel the Annihilation Wave approaching. Is that an example of some sort of cosmic awareness?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I guess I'll have to repeat myself once more...

1. Jumping ability : he can't jump, end of story. Maybe he jump over Pip the Troll, that's about it. Some claim he can jump from continent to continent like Hulk, I say : scans please.

2. Light speed reflexes : he doesn't have them. He never used light speed reflexes, and the very few times he did seem to react pretty fast, are very debatable.

3. Transforming matter at will (even turning Superman into stone) : he did this only once, in a very old comic, maybe 30 years ago. Thanos powers were never defined (was it Thanos himself ? His spaceship ? His implants ?), and him getting killed and resurrected again, and with changing powers... nobody knows if he still can do that stuff these days. And even if he could, it's very very debatable if it would work on Superman.

4. Magical abilities : despite the assumptions of some members, he is no dr. Strange, never will be too. Dr. Doom, who is more or less average in magic, is a much much better sorcerer than Thanos ever will be.

5. Strength : ah the old "strength topic". Very easy : he doesn't have the feats of Superman, so until I see him let's say pushing a moon or picking up an island, I say Superman is stronger. Fair is fair, no ?

For those who disagree : name me a strength feat of Thanos that Superman couldn't do ?

6. Flying : he can't fly. I don't care a bit if he's an Eternal, Thanos can't fly.

2. Yes he does. Surfer anyone?

3. You kind of contridicted your self there... you said he can't transform it, and yet you gave yourself an example?
Sure it is debatable if he can do it to Supes, but it isn't debatable that he can transmute matter.

4. True.

5. Ugh. Fine then. He isn't strong. Neither is Darkseid, Doomsday, Juggernaut, Galactus, Celestials, Eternity, Imperiex, Living Tribunal, etc. See how that works against you?
You don't need lifting feats to give you strength, sure it helps, but that would make battles non-existent.
You can't be serious on that anyway... can you?
Based on your logic, Superman is stronger than Galactus, etc.
No seriously, if you want to use that logic, find me a strength feat of Darkseid.

6. He can levitate though. Wait, who said he could fly?

There, 4 of those things are actually true.

Originally posted by bigbran
1. Anyone can jump. But what your getting at is true.

2. Yes he does. Surfer anyone?

3. You kind of contridicted your self there... you said he can't transform it, and yet you gave yourself an example?
Sure it is debatable if he can do it to Supes, but it isn't debatable that he can transmute matter.

4. True.

5. Ugh. Fine then. He isn't strong. Neither is Darkseid, Doomsday, Juggernaut, Galactus, Celestials, Eternity, Imperiex, Living Tribunal, etc. See how that works against you?
You don't need lifting feats to give you strength, sure it helps, but that would make battles non-existent.
You can't be serious on that anyway... can you?
Based on your logic, Superman is stronger than Galactus, etc.
No seriously, if you want to use that logic, find me a strength feat of Darkseid.

6. He can levitate though. Wait, who said he could fly?

There, 4 of those things are actually true.

Always the ever present. I'm glad I"m not the only poster with whom incurs ur "wrath" when they won't think like you want them to.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Always the ever present. I'm glad I"m not the only poster with whom incurs ur "wrath" when they won't think like you want them to.

I'm not egotistical. "Wrath", 😆.

He responded to me. I responded to him. He will respond again, I will repsond again.
Check what happened before you open your mouth.

I have never made somone think like me. It's called debating. I'm argueing against his opinion, because I think he is wrong.
Am I not allowed to debate?

Originally posted by bigbran
There, 4 of those things are actually true.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
In fact all six are true, but to be honest, I thought you were gonna shoot all six of my points, so four isn't bad.

He can't fly around. He can levitate though, and walk on air, but he doesn't fly.

He's not a jumper.

(I guess three are true, and three are false... my bad)

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Considering he can keep up with Surfer, Fallen One, Etc, I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility.

Are you gonna stop being ignorant? We came to that ages ago.

When has Thanos ever - under his own power - followed a source as fast or faster than light ?

He hasn't.

Mumbling something about Surfer and Fallen One isn't gonna help you. Yes they fly. Great. Yes they are fast. Cool. Has Thanos ever chased them under his own power across the universe ? Well ??

Come back when you actually can show me a scan.

Originally posted by Kutulu
You ignore scans that show exactly what someone is talking about, so what's the point of feats? Thanos has already fought people that can fly and that can shoot blasts from a distance, he clearly knew where they were and when they were attacking him.

I asked how many characters that can fly have used their flying power against Thanos himself ? This is NOT flying towards Thanos, and then kicking and blasting him.

Using their flying power.

I know Surfer can fly (if he has his board) - Duh. I know Thor can fly (if he has his hammer) - Duh. And so on.

Did I ask who is able to fly ? Well, did I ?

ill be a fight, not Superman blasting Thanos with heat vision and running off and hiding for 2 hours, so that he can come in with a surprise attack. The arena doesn't work that way and comics aren't written that way, so quit grasping at straws.

But don't tell me that "the arena doesn't work that way", because that's new.

Thanos can teleport with and without technology, he typically uses his suit because it's easier for him, not because he can't do it. His suit is standard battle gear, so his full set of technological gadgets come along for this fight, that is also standard practice for arena battles.

Thanos has a big problem : finding Superman. Superman can find Thanos any time he wants (super vision). I see no reason why Superman can't use the element of surprise.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Here's another one with reading problems. Why can't those Thanos defenders never answer a simple question ?

I asked how many characters that can fly have used their flying power against Thanos himself ? This is NOT flying towards Thanos, and then kicking and blasting him.

Using their flying power.

I know Surfer can fly (if he has his board) - Duh. I know Thor can fly (if he has his hammer) - Duh. And so on.

Did I ask who is able to fly ? Well, did I ?
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The fight goes like I want it to go, and if you don't agree with it, that's fine and you can propose another kind of fight.

But don't tell me that "the arena doesn't work that way", because that's new.
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Thanos teleporting abilities are pretty unclear, but even IF he could teleport where Superman is flying - I wouldn't know how he would suddenly know where Superman is, but okay - Superman needs only half a second to fly let's 10.000 miles.

Thanos has a big problem : finding Superman. Superman can find Thanos any time he wants (super vision). I see no reason why Superman can't use the element of surprise.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
When has Thanos ever - under his own power - followed a source as fast or faster than light ?

He hasn't.

(I realise that could be attributed to a special link between the two characters, but you never specified a non-Drax example! Although he also sensed the Annihlation wave approaching his universe before it even arrived. He has some sort of 6th sense, which I haven't made up, I saw the editor of Annihilation say the reason he knew the wave was coming was partly down to a 6th sense (his words, not mine), and partly intelligence. I'll try and find the quote if you want)

Originally posted by darthgoober
If Supes flys away he loses the match.

Not saying after 30 pages : erm, oh yeah, no flying for Superman.

Originally posted by Wally West
In Annihilation #4 he senses Drax the Destroyer approaching while he is in a vessel in hyperspace. 😉

(I realise that could be attributed to a special link between the two characters, but you never specified a non-Drax example! Although he also sensed the Annihlation wave approaching his universe before it even arrived. He has some sort of 6th sense, which I haven't made up, I saw the editor of Annihilation say the reason he knew the wave was coming was partly down to a 6th sense (his words, not mine), and partly intelligence. I'll try and find the quote if you want)

Well if he could sense somebody/something approaching he could stick a forcefield up.

I know you seem to think Thanos hiding behind a forcefield and teleporting around is cheap but so is the idea of Superman flying off into infinity and blasting him with heat vision. It would never kill Thanos so at worst its a stalemate if Superman does that.

By the way heres the quote I was refering to:

Newsarama: So - at the start – Thanos knows what’s going down? Howso?

Andy Schmidt: Thanos has always had a unique relationship with Death and a more intricate working knowledge of his own universe than most. So, essentially, part 6th sense, and part he’s smarter than all of us Earth people put together.

Maybe he has some sort of jedi power where he can "see things before they happen" so he handles guys like Surfer and Fallen One with ease 😗

Kid kurdy is being funny. Hes smartly showcasing how the flying bricks that have fougth Thanos probably didnt all used speed in a tactical way, other than ramming against the guy, but yet espects another character (Superman) to do it when DC doesnt showcasing him using speed that way either.

The "In Character" reasoning usually cuts both ways. Sadly.

Originally posted by Wally West
I know you seem to think Thanos hiding behind a forcefield and teleporting around is cheap but so is the idea of Superman flying off into infinity and blasting him with heat vision.

Originally posted by olympian
Kid kurdy is being funny. Hes smartly showcasing how the flying bricks that have fougth Thanos probably didnt all used speed in a tactical way, other than ramming against the guy

but yet espects another character (Superman) to do it when DC doesnt showcasing him using speed that way either.

Not only that, but it is well within his power set. Forum rules : everybody is fighting at their FULL potential.

The "In Character" reasoning usually cuts both ways. Sadly.

A blood lusted Superman, even within character, is no joke. He can destroy the planet on which Thanos is standing in only a few seconds. And what then ? Thanos floats helplessly in space, like he did when he was trying to fight Runner.

Thanos without prep is very strong MArvel character but the way I see Supes can handle him. His superspeed gives him an advatage. Thanos is a bit overrated without prep and his few tricks he isn't that bad. I mean Supes fought Darkseid...For Thanos, he can't hit what he can't see...But might go differently. It's just the way I see it.