Thanos vs Superman

Started by Kid Kurdy399 pages

Originally posted by Wally West
By the way heres the quote I was refering to:

Newsarama: So - at the start – Thanos knows what’s going down? Howso?

Andy Schmidt: Thanos has always had a unique relationship with Death and a more intricate working knowledge of his own universe than most. So, essentially, [b]part 6th sense, and part he’s smarter than all of us Earth people put together.

Maybe he has some sort of jedi power where he can "see things before they happen" so he handles guys like Surfer and Fallen One with ease [/B]


You realize you wrote "maybe" ? I thought only powers and abilities are allowed that he clearly, beyond a shadow of a doubt, possesses.

Some vague sixth sense - a "maybe" sixth sense - isn't very convincing. And I never saw Thanos pinpointing somebody who can't be seen (Thanos : There, there ! Nobody can see him, he's 2000 miles away, but I sense he's there, and he's about to attack ! Everybody dodge now !!)

I never saw him do or say such a thing. Not even once 🙁

I added the 😗 smiley to indicate I wasn't being serious. A 6th sense would be a good explination for how he fares against lightspeeders, but I wasn't actually using it as evidence, just throwing it out there for how the actual creators of these characters explain it.

Thanos has sensed a skrull in disguise when absolutely no body else realised it, he didn't recognise the skrull physically so he must have sensed it (it was from fairly close range admitidly). He does have some sort of weird perception thing going on. And like I've pointed out, he could "feel" the Annihilation wave approaching his universe and was waiting for it at the place the wave entered the universe.

Thanos senses Strange and co arriving just before they do:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/SilverSurfer088i.jpg

Are people still arguing that Thanos doesn't have telepathy? Then what does he do here, besides easily reprogramming the mind of the first herald of Galactus?
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This is an interesting one, Thanos hears/reads Gamora's thoughts:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/InfinityWatch41i.jpg

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
And this is true, you - should - know that.

I also know Superman doesnt use speed the way you would like.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
And this is wrong. Superman has used his flying powers more than once against enemies.

That isent what you claimed. You claimed that besides just using flying as a way to ram against a guy, Thanos never had anyone using the fligth in a tactical way.

Otherwise: if Superman has used "fligth" against opponents, so have others like Iron Man and Thor.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

Not only that, but it is well within his power set. Forum rules : everybody is fighting at their FULL potential.


Wich makes you fall on a double edge sword again. If that rule overrides the in character aspect, you cant claim that Thor and others have never done it because its in theyr powerset to do the same.

And if you use that rule to override the in character aspect once more, it means Thanos is going to use his teleportation from the get go and blast him. Even though he usually does that as a later resource.

Double edge words = funny. Still, good try.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
And this is true, you - should - know that.
[B]A blood lusted Superman, even within character, is no joke. He can destroy the planet on which Thanos is standing in only a few seconds. And what then ? Thanos floats helplessly in space, like he did when he was trying to fight Runner.

Or you know, he can just teleport from the get go to another arena. Its in his powerset after all.

Thanos without Prep would have a very hard time accomplishing the task of Defeating Superman. SUperman's Durability is arguably as close to Thanos as one can get. The guy has survived rediculous things. Thanos can amp up. Superman can amp up as well. Superman can literally fly to a near by yellow sun in seconds or less. So Thanos won't have any easy time of it for sure. I dont' think Thanos would have an Easy time of it with any Top tier if they aren't Jobbing. We never really see Thanos fighting Non jobbing Top tiers. Every one Thanos fights is a jobber or Thanos has massive Prep. It's kinda unfair for Thanos to be based on his performances when it's clear no one he has EVER fought in comics has fought to the best of thier abilities per Forum Rules. With that being said, Thanos would beat SUperman at least 7/10, but each one would be very hard fought.

Originally posted by olympian
That isent what you claimed. You claimed that besides just using flying as a way to ram against a guy, Thanos never had anyone using the fligth in a tactical way.

Yes that was indeed what I was saying. You still haven't proved otherwise.
Wich makes you fall on a double edge sword again. If that rule overrides the in character aspect, you cant claim that Thor and others have never done it because its in theyr powerset to do the same.

And that's why I say they job against Thanos. You see the pattern ? Iron Man could easily stay out of Thanos' reach, it would be the smart thing to do, everybody knows that, and blast away. It won't help much against Thanos, but better that than trying a overcome him with physical strength alone.
And if you use that rule to override the in character aspect once more, it means Thanos is going to use his teleportation from the get go and blast him. Even though he usually does that as a later resource.

I don't care if Thanos teleports, who's making a big deal out of it ? Not me.
Or you know, he can just teleport from the get go to another arena. Its in his powerset after all.

Question : how exactly does Thanos teleport ? Why didn't he teleport away when Nebula banished him ?

He did nothing but complaining (Poor me, now I float here helplessly, nothing to do...)

He isn't Nightcrawler, he just doesn't teleport away like Kurt. If he teleports, it's almost always for traveling purposes.

I'm not sure about this, but has he ever used his teleportation abilities for real combat ? Like Nightcrawler does all the time ?

I'm not sure...but I think Olympian meant that Thanos will just BFR teleport Superman into the heart of Mu Cephei (one of the largest Red Giant stars in our galaxy) or something.

Isn't that like... leaving the arena ? If Superman does that, everybody complains, but apparently Thanos can teleport Superman where he wants.

Hmmm

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I'm not sure...but I think Olympian meant that Thanos will just BFR teleport Superman into the heart of Mu Cephei (one of the largest Red Giant stars in our galaxy) or something.

What is the exact Range of Thanos Teleport? Is it tech or part of his natural powerset?I thought it was tech. It seems like it in the A. Wave series. How would Thanos know that Red Sun Rad hurts SUperman?

Thanos wins via Bullshits and Tricks.....

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Thanos wins via Bullshits and Tricks.....

I wouldn't exactly say that, But that does seem to be his M.O. Most of the time. THo I would call it that. Maybe prep, and Tech and Jobbers is more appropriate.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Some other new rules we don't know about ? When you create a vs thread, you should be clear about the rules from the beginning.

Not saying after 30 pages : erm, oh yeah, no flying for Superman.


It's not a new rule, it's a standard rule for a forum battle. Supes can fly, but he can't fly AWAY. Check it out....

Leaving the field

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy

I'm not sure about this, but has he ever used his teleportation abilities for real combat ? Like Nightcrawler does all the time ?

Please read Thanos Quest. If you can't manage to find it, you can read one of the numerous scans where he has teleported in combat. At least make some attempt to even understand who Thanos is before you continue on in these forums, because your lack of knowledge about his past and his abilities is astounding. This makes it entirely confusing reading your replies, because you state he has never done things that anybody who has read his comics know that he can do, such as teleporting mid-combat as a combat tactic, using forcefields to counter long range attacks, and block speed blitzes.

You said he doesn't jump, for example, but what good is jumping going to do to someone who can levitate and teleport wherever he wants? You said he can't use telepathic powers, where clearly he brainwashed the fallen one to become his servant. You said he has no combat skill, even after someone posted a scan of him beating one of the most deadly mercenary armies in the universe using hand to hand combat without a shield just to hone his skills. Everything that you post has already been countered, yet you continue to post the same lack of knowledge about his character.

You're really grasping at straws if you think that jumping ability is going to matter in a fight against Superman, or that Superman is going to be able to beat Thanos with purely long ranged attacks, or that Thanos is susceptible to speed blitzes. He has countered all of these attacks throughout his history time and time again. Superman's only chance is to go in and get physical, which is exactly what would happen based upon his past.

You keep mentioning flying abilities of Superman. What, praytell, is flying around going to do for superman? If Thanos can react in time to Silver Surfer rushing in at millions of times the speed of light, or block the Fallen One rushing in from Hyperspace, what is Superman flying going to do? Thanos is going to know there is a fight, so his shields are going to be up, plain and simple, you have yet to post why Superman could even get through his shields.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I wouldn't exactly say that, But that does seem to be his M.O. Most of the time. THo I would call it that. Maybe prep, and Tech and Jobbers is more appropriate.
According to you...but as we all know you are wrong...constantly.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Please read Thanos Quest. If you can't manage to find it, you can read one of the numerous scans where he has teleported in combat. At least make some attempt to even understand who Thanos is before you continue on in these forums, because your lack of knowledge about his past and his abilities is astounding. This makes it entirely confusing reading your replies, because you state he has never done things that anybody who has read his comics know that he can do, such as teleporting mid-combat as a combat tactic, using forcefields to counter long range attacks, and block speed blitzes.

You said he doesn't jump, for example, but what good is jumping going to do to someone who can levitate and teleport wherever he wants? You said he can't use telepathic powers, where clearly he brainwashed the fallen one to become his servant. You said he has no combat skill, even after someone posted a scan of him beating one of the most deadly mercenary armies in the universe using hand to hand combat without a shield just to hone his skills. Everything that you post has already been countered, yet you continue to post the same lack of knowledge about his character.

You're really grasping at straws if you think that jumping ability is going to matter in a fight against Superman, or that Superman is going to be able to beat Thanos with purely long ranged attacks, or that Thanos is susceptible to speed blitzes. He has countered all of these attacks throughout his history time and time again. Superman's only chance is to go in and get physical, which is exactly what would happen based upon his past.

You keep mentioning flying abilities of Superman. What, praytell, is flying around going to do for superman? If Thanos can react in time to Silver Surfer rushing in at millions of times the speed of light, or block the Fallen One rushing in from Hyperspace, what is Superman flying going to do? Thanos is going to know there is a fight, so his shields are going to be up, plain and simple, you have yet to post why Superman could even get through his shields.


Does Thanos use his shields in combat all the time? How strong are his normal shields? Can he fight while in his shields?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
According to you...but as we all know you are wrong...constantly.

what ever you say. Just like I was wrong about Batmite being the one in the EMp joker saga, or how i was wrong about DS using Finder beams for the OE or saying someting about Erasing something. People like to twist my words or confuse the idffernt battles just to make themselves look cool. If I'm wrong, Don't make your self look cool by just making a statement. Prove me wrong. Show me what I said had no merit.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
what ever you say. Just like I was wrong about Batmite being the one in the EMp joker saga, or how i was wrong about DS using Finder beams for the OE or saying someting about Erasing something. People like to twist my words or confuse the idffernt battles just to make themselves look cool. If I'm wrong, Don't make your self look cool by just making a statement. Prove me wrong. Show me what I said had no merit.

Using tech he always carries is no more wrong then Batman using his belt. Thanos will have the same tech on this battle too.

In his most impressive battles he has had not had any prep at all.

And nobody has really jobbered against him any more then they do against other characters.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Using tech he always carries is no more wrong then Batman using his belt. Thanos will have the same tech on this battle too.

In his most impressive battles he has had not had any prep at all.

And nobody has really jobbered against him any more then they do against other characters.

Odin and Tyrant Most certainly jobbed to Thanos. Just look at who Tyrant and ODin's Major Enemies are. Thanos isn't in that league. And any impressive battle Thanos has had with no prep he has been aided by the Jobber aura.