Originally posted by LordKaos
no i won't elaborate if you have enough knowledge to refute everything i've said then use that same knowledge to refute what you quoted, I know what I'm talking about tell me about Galactus pre-phoenix.
Nowhere on panel has Phoenix been shown to create Galactus. If you have a scan (not bio) that shows Phoenix creating Galactus, I would love to see it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlAvengers Infinity #4
Can phoenix Defender Herself against a combined assualt of Scarlet witch HOM, the UN, and the cosmic Cubes? Becuz all of these things belong to Eternity. Is pheonix more powerful than the infinites? Eternity Wrestled one back off of him. I can't remeber what book i read that in, but he did it.
Originally posted by Xplosive
[B]Or Eternity bitchslaped by Dormammu.
Why don't you bring me a scan where Dormammu bitchslapped Eternity. I'm the biggest fan of Dormammu but I'll tell you that never happened. BOTH were gone and Dormammu ended up in another realm. At MOST Dormammu got a stalemate against Eternity.
Phoenix has some low feats, but I don' remember her losing to any cosmic being (and when LT stopped her, he didn't defaet her, actully convinced her to leave).
Yeah because it's more humiliating being stalemated by Dormammu than getting raped by a starship or killed by Magneto.
She defaeted Galactus rather easily (and Galatcus trembeled before Dark Phoenix and pretty much said that her power source goes beyond that of his, Eternity said Galactus to be his equal) and once easily destroyed Celestial hand (when she wasn't close experinced) and then they levead.
Why don't you give me scans or point me to the issues. She beat weak Galactus. Your normal Galactus is still far below Eternity. LOL. Destroying a Celestial hand means what? The Destroyer has done that already.
Originally posted by manorastromanNope.
phoenix "gave birth" to galactus in adventures of the x-men 12, the same comic where the brothers got retconned. it's questionably canon.
Not sure if you actually read the comic, or are just paraphrasing GS, but nothing happened in that comic to suggest that the Phoenix had any sort of role in Galan's transformation to Galactus.
In fact, NONE of the three versions I have seen of Galactus' origin show or mention the Phoenix. That X-Men issue shows a 'sentience of the universe' speaking to Galan...and in 'Thanos' #3, that 'sentience' is clearly shown to be Eternity...NOT the Phoenix.
Furthermore...when posed the question, (at another board), about a possible Phoenix connection to Galactus' origin, X-Men editor Andy Schmidt was totally flabbergasted...saying that he had never even heard of that scenario, and encouraged us to not put any stock in it.
So the evidence of the Phoenix having anything to do with the origin of Galactus remains elusive.
When the one of the many universes of 616 died the Phoenix put Galan in her womb (the comic egg) and created Galactus the big bang that is indeed responsible for marvel creation is sparked by the Phoenix. It's not fanboyism or anything else, it just is. The spark expands as it ignites flammable material, if it keeps going it will eventually ignite something explosive until there is a bang, then ashes, but in this metaphor the ashes are cleared and something new but similar is born.
Originally posted by LordKaosOk, fine...what issue?
When the one of the many universes of 616 died the Phoenix put Galan in her womb (the comic egg) and created Galactus the big bang that is indeed responsible for marvel creation is sparked by the Phoenix. It's not fanboyism or anything else, it just is. The spark expands as it ignites flammable material, if it keeps going it will eventually ignite something explosive until there is a bang, then ashes, but in this metaphor the ashes are cleared and something new but similar is born.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Givin that she only did things in that room once, I don't think you're likely to see her do ANYTHING there again.
Probably so. But it doesn’t change the fact, that PotWC resides in the core of creation other wise known as the White Hot Room.
My question is this, how is Eternity going to challenge PotWC while she is in Core of Creation?
This is the relationship that the Phoenix Force Shares with the current 616 universe along with Eternity and Galactus.
Born of the void between states of being, the Phoenix Force is a child of the universe. In the dying moments of the previous universe, the Force saved all existence from eternal damnation, enabling Eternity to preserve the humanoid Galan, ensuring his re-creation as Galactus.
Originally posted by id369Do you know what a wiki is?
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Phoenix_Force
Originally posted by id369Official Marvel website, yes...but it is a fan contribution...which for all we know could have been you writing it.
Um yes....Do you know what a reliable source means?
That’s the official marvel website.
Nice pic, but bios that are not backed up by on-panel action are to be taken with a grain of salt.
BTW, those bios are primarily written by Jeff Christensen, (owner of marvunapp.com), not exactly a reliable source. I'll take the word of an actual Marvel editor over the word and interpretation of some geek running a website, any day of the week.
Originally posted by LordKaosSo you're playing the bio game too, huh? Surely you can do better.
Not an issue Marvel character description. Marvel said the Phoenix saved everything by ENABLING eternity to preserve Galan, it calls her a child of the universe but if it meant eternity it would have said a child of eternity since it mentions him anyway.
Must be nice and warm to be parked in GS' anus...I trust his fecal matter tastes yummy!
Originally posted by Lord S
Official Marvel website, yes...but it is a fan contribution...which for all we know could have been you writing it.Nice pic, but bios that are not backed up by on-panel action are to be taken with a grain of salt.
BTW, those bios are primarily written by Jeff Christensen, (owner of marvunapp.com), not exactly a reliable source. I'll take the word of an actual Marvel editor over the word and interpretation of some geek running a website, any day of the week.
So you're playing the bio game too, huh? Surely you can do better.
Must be nice and warm to be parked in GS' anus...I trust his fecal matter tastes yummy!
Well since you want to take, on panel reference as the #1 source.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5126/uxm137pg018bb.jpg
I seriously doubt Eternity is the Creator.
And my question was not answered.
Currently PotWC resides in the Core of Creation, what can eternity do to PotWC while she resides their?
Originally posted by id369Hyperbole + Contradictory (to the established role of the Living Tribunal being second to the 'Creator'😉 = hack writing.
Well since you want to take, on panel reference as the #1 source.
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/5126/uxm137pg018bb.jpgI seriously doubt Eternity is the Creator.
